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Offline Doc Fluty

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I received the updated Festool CT 26 (574930) today and sat my Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy on top of it and, surprise, it fits!

However, it seems with the new updated CT hose garage you need to turn around your UDD to make it work. This creates a problem due to a 1/4" tube that is used for back pressure/suction not being long enough to reach. I read elsewhere here that Oneida will begin shipping longer hoses with their units. But I don't plan on using a bag in my set up, so no worries for me.

I am happy that the UDD unit came with 2 right angle adapters, so the hose doesn't sprout high from the top. I also took the black UDD hose to my bandsaw to trim about 6 inches from it. This creates a tighter nice look IMO.

Just thought some of you might be interested in seeing it mounted as proof it works. I will probably do a video review of it in the next few days and will update this post accordingly.

The new hose is a joy to use. it is very flexible, smooth and a joy to work with.
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2018, 10:29 AM »
“took the black UDD hose to my bandsaw to trim about 6 inches from it. This creates a tighter nice look IMO.”

I was thinking that hose looked about a half foot too short...

It is a tighter look but it is also a very tight turn up top. I didn’t like the one elbow on my CT Mini but I can’t prove elbows significantly reduce flow...

Offline jdm5

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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2018, 11:22 AM »
How is the UDD secured to the new garage hose top?  Is there a t-loc connection on the udd to hokd it on, or ???
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Offline Bob D.

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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2018, 04:17 PM »
You should be able to pick up some 1/4" poly tube off Amazon, EBay, McMaster-Carr, or locally for cheap.
Don't use the soft, vinyl tube, it will probably collapse under vacuum.
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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2018, 04:20 PM »
How is the UDD secured to the new garage hose top?  Is there a t-loc connection on the udd to hokd it on, or ???

@jdm5, it has attachment points that utilize the four Systainer latches on the hose garage of the vac. It is not T-LOC, presumably because the larger vacs weren't T-LOC capable until recently.
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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2018, 07:43 PM »
I always like the dust deputy.  I’ll admit I’ve always wondered why it was so expensive for a plastic box.  $349 Canadian.  It really should be more than $149 for what it is.  Otherwise it a very useful add-on.
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Offline Corwin

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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2018, 09:47 PM »
Seeing those photos reminds me that of my desire for someone, anyone, to offer a nice antistatic sweeping 90.
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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2018, 10:21 PM »
Seeing those photos reminds me that of my desire for someone, anyone, to offer a nice antistatic sweeping 90.

@Corwin - have you written ONEIDA and asked them for such a part?
A more compact routing of the vacuum hose to the nCT-vac would be helpful.

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Offline Corwin

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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2018, 10:39 PM »
Seeing those photos reminds me that of my desire for someone, anyone, to offer a nice antistatic sweeping 90.

@Corwin - have you written ONEIDA and asked them for such a part?
A more compact routing of the vacuum hose to the nCT-vac would be helpful.

Hans

No, but then I have a ClearVue cyclone (those before Oneida got a patent on theirs) so I didn't contact Oneida. However, I did post this on the 'wish list' thread here for Festool to see... ... ... ...  [wink]
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Offline Steven Owen

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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2018, 11:02 PM »
Looking at the price for the LongLife bag, it probably makes more sense to cough up the extra coin for the Ultimate Dust Deputy if it saves filters vs coughing up the extra change for the Longlife bag.
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Offline Mike S

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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2018, 12:41 AM »
Seeing those photos reminds me that of my desire for someone, anyone, to offer a nice antistatic sweeping 90.

How about a sweeping 180 fitting for the top of the UDD? ;-)

Which reminds me, I either need to call Oneida and see about picking one up ... or ordering one before the end of the month.

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Offline mruseless

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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2018, 10:56 AM »
Has anyone measured either the CFM or the inches of water suction before and after the Dust Deputy?
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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2018, 11:40 AM »
I received the updated Festool CT 26 (574930) today and sat my Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy on top of it and, surprise, it fits!

However, it seems with the new updated CT hose garage you need to turn around your UDD to make it work. This creates a problem due to a 1/4" tube that is used for back pressure/suction not being long enough to reach. I read elsewhere here that Oneida will begin shipping longer hoses with their units. But I don't plan on using a bag in my set up, so no worries for me.

I am happy that the UDD unit came with 2 right angle adapters, so the hose doesn't sprout high from the top. I also took the black UDD hose to my bandsaw to trim about 6 inches from it. This creates a tighter nice look IMO.

Just thought some of you might be interested in seeing it mounted as proof it works. I will probably do a video review of it in the next few days and will update this post accordingly.

The new hose is a joy to use. it is very flexible, smooth and a joy to work with.

I had to turn mine around but the clear plastic pipe was long enough.

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Offline ben_r_

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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2018, 01:21 PM »
Nice! Great to see that the UDD works fine with the new T-Loc hose garage. Ill be ordering one from FestoolProducts here shortly. Just getting over the $50 price tag! But Im hoping to recover some from selling my like new condition old style hose garage!
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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2018, 01:38 PM »
Nice! Great to see that the UDD works fine with the new T-Loc hose garage. Ill be ordering one from FestoolProducts here shortly. Just getting over the $50 price tag! But Im hoping to recover some from selling my like new condition old style hose garage!

I believe the $50 will be worth it as it is an improvement on the original.

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Offline ben_r_

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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2018, 01:40 PM »
Nice! Great to see that the UDD works fine with the new T-Loc hose garage. Ill be ordering one from FestoolProducts here shortly. Just getting over the $50 price tag! But Im hoping to recover some from selling my like new condition old style hose garage!

I believe the $50 will be worth it as it is an improvement on the original.

Peter
It certainly looks like it from what I have seen in pics and videos. And as I understand it's supposedly build with more reinforcement to prevent the cracking issue many had with the previous style. Thankfully mines been fine so far but I am very gentle with my tools. Still, itll be nice to know the newer version is built more robust.
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Offline morts10n

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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2018, 03:48 PM »
Is it possible to just move the plastic fitting to the front of UDD box into a tapped hole and plug the old one?

Offline ben_r_

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« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2018, 04:22 PM »
Is it possible to just move the plastic fitting to the front of UDD box into a tapped hole and plug the old one?
Thats what I was planning to try.
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Offline KGB pilot125

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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2018, 09:04 PM »
Seeing those photos reminds me that of my desire for someone, anyone, to offer a nice antistatic sweeping 90.

@Corwin - have you written ONEIDA and asked them for such a part?
A more compact routing of the vacuum hose to the nCT-vac would be helpful.

Hans

I did and now have a sleek setup on my 26. 

Offline HowardH

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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2018, 10:37 AM »
I thought Festool would void the warranty if an aftermarket device like the UDD is attached.  Has that changed? 
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Offline ben_r_

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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2018, 10:40 AM »
I thought Festool would void the warranty if an aftermarket device like the UDD is attached.  Has that changed? 
Exactly how would they know? Its not like it makes or requires any alterations be done to the CT vac.
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Offline HowardH

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« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2018, 10:43 AM »
I can't answer that but I do remember some discussion about this some time ago because the static could fry the electronics.  I think UDD now has a grounding strap to alleviate this issue but since I don't own one, I can't say for sure.   
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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2018, 10:49 AM »
I can't answer that but I do remember some discussion about this some time ago because the static could fry the electronics.  I think UDD now has a grounding strap to alleviate this issue but since I don't own one, I can't say for sure.   
It does, and they fixed that problem years ago and to the best of my knowledge no one has had any issues since, but still, how would they have known?
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Offline HowardH

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« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2018, 10:52 AM »
they probably have hidden cameras in the case to see what we are doing.   [eek] [big grin]
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Offline ben_r_

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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2018, 10:56 AM »
they probably have hidden cameras in the case to see what we are doing.   [eek] [big grin]
LOL THAT I might believe! That would at least offer SOME justification for the overpriced amounts they charge and annual price increases for their products!
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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2018, 11:04 AM »

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It does, and they fixed that problem years ago and to the best of my knowledge no one has had any issues since, but still, how would they have known?
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Probably not, unless their electronics have built-in chips like the SawStop cartridges. Every activated cartridge can be examined and data like when it was activated, if contact of human body parts was involved, etc. could be collected.

Offline deanorthk

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Re: Installed, Festool CT26 (2018) and Oneida Ultimate Dust Deputy
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2018, 05:53 AM »
very nice, thanks for sharing all those pics.
I have only the dust deputy (black version), and building the box for it (will be hooked to a CTL SYS). I definitely need to buy a 90° angle duct now:)