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Offline Naildrivingman

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Rubin!
« on: August 25, 2017, 06:08 AM »
It may be my imagination, but I don't think so.  I am thoroughly impressed with Rubin paper.  I have not tried the other versions, yet.  It seems that I can't wear it out, usually the edges give up before the field.
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Offline ear3

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Re: Rubin!
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2017, 06:25 AM »
Have you used the Granat yet?

It may be my imagination, but I don't think so.  I am thoroughly impressed with Rubin paper.  I have not tried the other versions, yet.  It seems that I can't wear it out, usually the edges give up before the field.
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Offline #Tee

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Re: Rubin!
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2017, 07:36 AM »
granats the best
When youre feeling depressed just treat yourself to a systainer even if its a mini systainer its ok.

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Offline Alex

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Re: Rubin!
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2017, 09:46 AM »
My experience with Rubin is the exact opposite, I find it is very short lived.

Nevertheless the best paper for bare wood.

Offline Dovetail65

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Re: Rubin!
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2017, 09:55 AM »
As far as Festool paper none of it last very long(Rubin a very short life span for me), but I generally only use Saphir now. I find Saphir the longest lasting of the Festool papers and good enough for my type work(generally flooring inlays).
« Last Edit: August 25, 2017, 10:00 AM by Dovetail65 »
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Offline SS Teach

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Re: Rubin!
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2017, 11:50 AM »
I've only used Granat with my Ro 150. I can't seem to wear it out. After sanding very rough boards to silky smooth it's still good to go. Maybe Festool sandpaper is just that good.
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Offline Naildrivingman

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Re: Rubin!
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2017, 05:48 PM »
My experience with Rubin is the exact opposite, I find it is very short lived.

Nevertheless the best paper for bare wood.
I very rarely sand anything else.
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Offline Naildrivingman

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Re: Rubin!
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2017, 05:49 PM »
Have you used the Granat yet?

It may be my imagination, but I don't think so.  I am thoroughly impressed with Rubin paper.  I have not tried the other versions, yet.  It seems that I can't wear it out, usually the edges give up before the field.
I thought Granat was for metal
« Last Edit: August 25, 2017, 08:39 PM by Naildrivingman »
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Offline Naildrivingman

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Re: Rubin!
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2017, 05:50 PM »
As far as Festool paper none of it last very long(Rubin a very short life span for me), but I generally only use Saphir now. I find Saphir the longest lasting of the Festool papers and good enough for my type work(generally flooring inlays).
I haven't seen saphir at my brick and mortar stores.
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Offline Dovetail65

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Re: Rubin!
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2017, 05:52 PM »
I get it online through Amazon or Hartville tool normally.

https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Saphir+festool

You have to remember this is tough paper, only goes to 80 grit I think. It definitely not for cabinets etc.

« Last Edit: August 25, 2017, 05:56 PM by Dovetail65 »
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Offline JBag09

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Re: Rubin!
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2017, 11:05 PM »
I have a bunch of Rubin 2 in various grits if anyone is interested, let me know.
I now use almost all granat for my projects   


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Offline Fezbollah

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Re: Rubin!
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2017, 04:19 PM »
Granat has got to be one of the best all round papers going. I use it for all kinds of applications in all the grits, from preparing surfaces to paint to hand finishing cricket bats prior to hard waxing. Well worth having a disc or two of Saphir in your box for when you really need to bully something, though. It doesn't get hot. I've stripped bitumen from old floor boards without it clogging before and once I even used it to smash down a chipboard sub-floor that had been installed higher than the top nosing of a staircase in a floor laying job. Quicker and cleaner to shape it with a p24 disc than anything else I had to hand.

Offline ear3

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Re: Rubin!
« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2017, 08:41 PM »
@Naildrivingman Granat is actually the best all purpose paper, and works great on wood (and longer lasting the Rubin in my experience).  Saphir is normally for heavier duty applications, and comes in a limited range of lower grits (max 80 grit), but it's thicker backing and grit layer does make it last a lot longer than other papers.

Have you used the Granat yet?

It may be my imagination, but I don't think so.  I am thoroughly impressed with Rubin paper.  I have not tried the other versions, yet.  It seems that I can't wear it out, usually the edges give up before the field.
I thought Granat was for metal
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Offline Naildrivingman

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Re: Rubin!
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2017, 12:03 AM »
I just came across a sample pack of Granat.  It is better than Rubin for the initial cut, but it does seem to wear out quicker.  It seems to me that Rubin does not cut as quickly, but lasts longer and Granat cuts quicker, but doesn't last as long.

Regardless, I have a whole Systainer full of Rubin.  It's gonna be awhile for Granat.
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Offline leakyroof

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Re: Rubin!
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2017, 03:49 PM »
I just came across a sample pack of Granat.  It is better than Rubin for the initial cut, but it does seem to wear out quicker.  It seems to me that Rubin does not cut as quickly, but lasts longer and Granat cuts quicker, but doesn't last as long.

Regardless, I have a whole Systainer full of Rubin.  It's gonna be awhile for Granat.
  I think Rubin 2 is better than the first version was.  The original Rubin for me cut okay through a Disc's life,but performance dropped off pretty fast in cutting ability as compared to either Rubin 2[Current Rubin] or Granat.
 I kind of saw the same thing with the now-gone Cristal as compared to Granat. Very good cutting action at first but didn't last as long as a disc of Granat for me.
 Saphir is sort of in its own league these days.... [smile]
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Offline Steven Owen

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Re: Rubin!
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2017, 09:43 PM »
My experience with Rubin is the exact opposite, I find it is very short lived.

Nevertheless the best paper for bare wood.
I very rarely sand anything else.

I’ve always wondered how the lifespan for Garant compares to the Mirka Abranet sheets.  My first Festool sander is in the mail and on it’s way.  I guess I’ll find out.