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Offline onevw

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Table saw CMS insert in the USA
« on: February 17, 2017, 06:16 PM »
If yes how did you get it to the USA

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Offline Yikesadoodie

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Re: Table saw CMS insert in the USA
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2017, 06:49 PM »
Amazon...took delivery yesterday.  Shipping was about 3 weeks.  Current price is substantially higher now.

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Re: Table saw CMS insert in the USA
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2017, 09:21 AM »
Please do not list where you obtained these items.  They are not supposed to be shipped here from my understanding and lets protect the vendors who help us out by keeping this off a public forum.

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Re: Table saw CMS insert in the USA
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2017, 09:40 AM »
Please do not list where you obtained these items.  They are not supposed to be shipped here from my understanding and lets protect the vendors who help us out by keeping this off a public forum.

Yes, I agree with not giving out specific names that may damage a relationship.

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Re: Table saw CMS insert in the USA
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2017, 11:55 AM »
I dont mind telling, I bought mine in the UK as I am living here for another 4 months. Then it will be shipped back to the USA with my household goods.

So in a away, I dont have mine in the states yet, but it will be soon.

You can find them for sale occasionally on Craigslist, Ebay etc...
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Offline bkharman

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Re: Table saw CMS insert in the USA
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2017, 02:27 PM »
It is well known that Amazon will ship certain things internationally for their Prime members. Has been a loophole for a very long time.

If Festool wants to go after Amazon, let them.

FYI, I have had my TS 75 insert for a few years now. Excellent quality.

Cheers. Bryan.


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Re: Table saw CMS insert in the USA
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2017, 03:44 PM »
There are numerous ways that people obtain a CMS insert for a non-supported-in-this-use-in-NA tool.

As a member I have thought long and hard about getting one myself, but as a Moderator here I am supposed to cut and paste the following:

Statement from Festool.


Warning: The Festool CMS System is approved for use with only the OF 1400 and OF 1010 routers in the US and Canadian markets.  It is not approved for use with the OF 2200, nor with any of the CMS modules currently available outside the US and Canadian markets (TS, Jigsaw and sanding modules).  Festool USA does not  endorse the use of these components and will not support them with spare  parts or repairs. The use of anything other than the OF 1400 and OF 1010 routers and their related accessories with the CMS will void the warranty agreement on the entire system for customers within the US and Canada. Festool does not endorse the application or use of any Festool product in any way other than in the manner described in the Festool Instruction Manual. To reduce the risk of serious injury and/or damage to your Festool product, always read, understand and follow all warnings and instructions in your Festool product's Instruction Manual.

Now carry on.

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Offline jimbo51

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Re: Table saw CMS insert in the USA
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2017, 05:34 PM »
I will note that the Triton table with removable inserts is being shown at the wood shows. I forgot to ask if it was UL approved.

Offline Runhard

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Re: Table saw CMS insert in the USA
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2017, 05:53 PM »
I have the TS75 CMS module installed in the CMS-VL with an Incra LS Super System (metric). Its a nice setup and I am pleased with it.  I also have a TS55R so the TS75 stays in the CMS module. Now that I have a lot more shop space I will be adding a full size tablesaw soon. As others have mentioned, Amazon UK is a good place to look. [wink]
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Offline mwildt

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Re: Table saw CMS insert in the USA
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2017, 06:19 PM »
Now that Festool is great in regards to dust collection I'm curious if the lucky owners could of comment in regard to this on these models ? Both the router one and the saw one. Thanks in advance.

Offline bkharman

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Re: Table saw CMS insert in the USA
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2017, 08:41 PM »
Now that Festool is great in regards to dust collection I'm curious if the lucky owners could of comment in regard to this on these models ? Both the router one and the saw one. Thanks in advance.

If you have the Y hose, collection is great for routers and saws.  I have the aforementioned Incra fence setup and the collection of dust in the router and the fence is really good. If you are doing rabbets then it will spit dust through the "tube", but the collection is great.

The TS 75 collection uses the port on the back of the saw and the blade guard to collect. Most materials the collection is great but MDF (like always) can be dusty depending on the cuts.

I really like my setup and will upgrade to full equipment later this year or next but the setup has been great.

Hope this helps!

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Offline onevw

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Re: Table saw CMS insert in the USA
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2017, 08:46 PM »
Looks like the poll is gone WOW

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Re: Table saw CMS insert in the USA
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2017, 08:59 PM »
Which poll??



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Re: Table saw CMS insert in the USA
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2017, 09:19 PM »
The one that started this thread off in the first place.

Offline onevw

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Re: Table saw CMS insert in the USA
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2017, 09:37 PM »
I sent a PM to Peter Halle the moderator asking if he deleted the poll.

We will see what response we get.

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Re: Table saw CMS insert in the USA
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2017, 10:21 PM »
Oh. I use Tapatalk a lot... I guess it doesn't show polls.

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Re: Table saw CMS insert in the USA
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2017, 02:45 AM »
To be honest, I have the GE CMS model w a TS 75 module w CS 50 fence and the side extension table. The dust collection is OK, as with the Y connector one hose attaches to the blade guard and one attaches to the back of the TS. I found the quality of the cut is OK. Not as good as my TS 55 when using it on a rail. I get teeth marks on the cuts which have to be cleaned up unless I plan on doing glue ups.

I am using a panther blade in the saw. Which the teeth marks is common as it is a agressive ripping blade.

Adjusting the  CS 50 fence along with the extension table (for me) was a pain. It took a while but I finally got it sorted.

I like the idea of having modules  being able to just dropping a module into the CMS making my cuts, pulling the module out and dropping another module in it and continung with the project.

With that being said, make a mistake and out comes one module and replace it with another etc.

That gets a little old unless you dont make mistakes.

So what I did was go buy a VL stand ( no modules just the stand only (we can get those here I dont think you can get a stand alone CMS with out the router module in the states).

So after adding up the cost for all these items, yes the modules are convenient but you might be better well served $$$$ wise to buy a nice contractor saw like a Bosch or Dewalt that are small enough to store out of the way and will save you a lot of $$$$.
Especially because you indicated that you were going to get a stationary saw.

Though I always had a stationary saw I dont anymore as I wanted to go to the festool system and living over here I have the ability to buy all the modules and the NAINA items.

 I also have a nice stationary Jet jointer which is in storage that Ill get when I get home. I can use the jointer to clean up the teeth marks or even use my 850 with the bench  stand If I needed/wanted to.

I would consider and think about the actual cost involved, add up the cost of a TS 75 or if you are going to use you TS 55 then I would become more of a hassle fitting the saw to the module everytime you have to use it and if you have to go a make a few additional cuts installing into the module and taking it out of the module.

If you consider the cost of the saw (if you want a TS 75 mounted full time in the module) the module, CS 50 fence, extension table plus the ability of being able to store the modules out of the way vs the quality of cuts a Bosch/Dewalt contractors (bench type) saw might do ya.

This is my opinion of course, anyone here can get the modules  (Amazon a UK/German tool store) if they wanted one. But once you add up the cost.. you might want to reconsider.

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Offline RobBob

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Re: Table saw CMS insert in the USA
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2017, 10:11 AM »
I have the Bosch Reaxx job site saw and have wondered how the CMS could be better?  Lighter weight maybe, but not better.  The cost of the CMS and TS 75 together are much more than a Sawstop or Bosch job site saw.   

The Bosch job site saw can use Jessem Clear Cut guides, a dado blade, and most other common table saw accessories.  Can the CMS do the same?

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Re: Table saw CMS insert in the USA
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2017, 04:06 PM »
No it can't use a dado blade , it can use the clear cut guides. It's made for sawing. Though great cross cutting with the sliding table. The main advantage is it's space saving modules.  I make my own modules and it's great because as I'm shop bound for the most part I store the modules I made on the wall with the rest of the modules and swap them in when needed. I've made modules for my bench top 5" disks/. 4" belt sander , my Craig jig, and just about any other bench top tool I have and use.
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