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Offline Bob D.

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Re: TS55 v TSC55…?
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2017, 09:32 PM »
Thanks Neil, that answers my question. I have not looked into the details of the new batteries and chargers but I do dread something about them and have a basic understanding of the differences.

Anyone know if the new air stream batteries can be charged with older (non air stream) chargers?
« Last Edit: March 19, 2017, 09:37 PM by Bob D. »
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Offline neilc

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Re: TS55 v TSC55…?
« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2017, 08:49 AM »
Yes, from posts on the FOG from dealers,


- new Airstream chargers can charge older batteries, but not at the faster rate.

- Airstream batteries can be charged on the old chargers but not at the faster rate.


You need both to see the charging advantage but lose no compatibility as I read it, except for a size difference of the charger. 
« Last Edit: March 20, 2017, 08:53 AM by neilc »

Offline ach_78

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Re: TS55 v TSC55…?
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2018, 10:41 AM »
Hi,

I have a TS 55 R and just got myself a TSC 55 with a pair 5.2 airstream batteries with SCA 8 airstream charger.

My observations are as follow :
- I timed the charge from empty : 25 min to 80%, and then 25min more to 100%
- The TSC sounds a little quieter, which is in fact not true (sound meter showed the TSC actually marginally lourder). I think that's the result of the smoother sound it makes. Every TS 55 owner knows the "rattling" noise it makes, well the TSC does not do that.

I tested both saws with the same (brand new) 48 teeth blade.

On a 40mm solid oak crosscut I found :
- both produce a polished cut
- the offcut is very slightly scuffed with the TS 55

On a 30mm rip cut :
- the TSC still produce a polished cut, shows the slightest amount of scufs on the offcut, as if it had a minor toe-out adjustment
- the TS 55 has small scufs on both the cut and the offcut, as if it has some toe-in

Those difference may very well be exclusively the effect of toe adjustment. Or it could also be the result of the TSC running smoother. I think the test is not conclusive on the matter of TS vs. TSC.

The TSC felt every bit as powerfull as the TS 55. It actually felt marginally less bogged down by the load. The e-brake is strong and quick, the machine runs smooth, it is such a refined tool.

Now the down side :
- eats batteries fast
- weights more but I don't mind, it's running on a track anyway
- the systainer is huge and the saw will not fit if the zero clearance insert is left on. They should have made a low profile knob to fix this, it is kinda silly as it is
- I usually hold the rail on the left where the top channel is, to prevent any shift during cut. With the TSC it is much harder to do this as the battery rides low and doesn't leave much clearance for your left hand to hold the track
- still no fine adjustment of the square stop at the back of the saw. There is a fine adjustment at the front which is a wellcome addition, but why not at the back ? BTW both my saws were out of square brand new.

Overall I really appreciate the smoother running motor and to avoid the annoyance of the cord and hose.

Offline SoonerFan

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Re: TS55 v TSC55…?
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2018, 10:07 PM »
Thanks for sharing your prespective.  Always appreciate input from those that have both TS models. 

Hi,

I have a TS 55 R and just got myself a TSC 55 with a pair 5.2 airstream batteries with SCA 8 airstream charger.

My observations are as follow :
- I timed the charge from empty : 25 min to 80%, and then 25min more to 100%
- The TSC sounds a little quieter, which is in fact not true (sound meter showed the TSC actually marginally lourder). I think that's the result of the smoother sound it makes. Every TS 55 owner knows the "rattling" noise it makes, well the TSC does not do that.

I tested both saws with the same (brand new) 48 teeth blade.

On a 40mm solid oak crosscut I found :
- both produce a polished cut
- the offcut is very slightly scuffed with the TS 55

On a 30mm rip cut :
- the TSC still produce a polished cut, shows the slightest amount of scufs on the offcut, as if it had a minor toe-out adjustment
- the TS 55 has small scufs on both the cut and the offcut, as if it has some toe-in

Those difference may very well be exclusively the effect of toe adjustment. Or it could also be the result of the TSC running smoother. I think the test is not conclusive on the matter of TS vs. TSC.

The TSC felt every bit as powerfull as the TS 55. It actually felt marginally less bogged down by the load. The e-brake is strong and quick, the machine runs smooth, it is such a refined tool.

Now the down side :
- eats batteries fast
- weights more but I don't mind, it's running on a track anyway
- the systainer is huge and the saw will not fit if the zero clearance insert is left on. They should have made a low profile knob to fix this, it is kinda silly as it is
- I usually hold the rail on the left where the top channel is, to prevent any shift during cut. With the TSC it is much harder to do this as the battery rides low and doesn't leave much clearance for your left hand to hold the track
- still no fine adjustment of the square stop at the back of the saw. There is a fine adjustment at the front which is a wellcome addition, but why not at the back ? BTW both my saws were out of square brand new.

Overall I really appreciate the smoother running motor and to avoid the annoyance of the cord and hose.

Offline pettyconstruction

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Re: TS55 v TSC55…?
« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2018, 12:50 AM »
I love my TSC , I bought it as a basic tool ( no batteries or charger) and got those later.
I run the 6AH bats,and it works great.
Put tape on the arbor hole in guard, and the bag gets most of the dust.
I open the bag and suck out the dust with my CT,to keep the debris from getting airborne.
Overall, I find it to be a great saw.
My only comparison is a TS-75, so I can’t comment on Power,but it seems to do well.
Nice and lite and cord/hose free.
Charlie
P.S I have cut sheetgoods and composite decking with it,no hardwoods.


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Offline willips

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Re: TS55 v TSC55…?
« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2018, 01:51 AM »
Ripped 50 mm (2") Oak with a panther blade no problem.

Offline OWKFEST

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Re: TS55 v TSC55…?
« Reply #36 on: February 09, 2018, 10:30 PM »
My 1st was the TS55 in 2000 it is a wonderful tool to have in my arsenal.  The big advantage is the reduction in dust! I also use the OF 2000 and sometimes its overkill for certain routing jobs, but I like it because its relatively quiet.  I really need to purchase the 1010.

Offline ScotF

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Re: TS55 v TSC55…?
« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2018, 12:36 AM »
The TSC is a great saw - it has plenty of power for most cuts I have done with it and I also use a TS75. The bag fills up quickly, but works for several cuts in sheet goods. Hardwood it fills up much, much faster. It is one of my favorite tools and I recommend it. I have not had the issue of batteries going down overly fast - I do have a second set so if one goes out, I swap and the others charge before the other ones drain - at least so far. I am running standard batteries too.