sancho57
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« on: January 28, 2013, 06:37 PM » |
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I know this is a old subj. Thought I would revive it. Im not one for buying after market products other then accessories by the mfg. But I have to say I ordered the qwas dogs to help me best align my fence and guide rail on my MFT quickly and more accurately.
I wasnt disappointed. I didnt use a spacer as suggested by Paul in his MFT videos, I just put 2 dogs in the first line of holes on the MFT ran the fence up to them, tightened the stops. This way I was sure that the fence was parallel with the holes one the MFT so they would make a great ref point for squaring the mft guide rail. I used my pinnacle square to set the guide rail at 90' from the rail.
Easy set up and with confidence that the fence and guide rail are set pretty darned square. Cant wait to start fooling around with the rail dogs. I already got some good ideas for them.
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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2013, 07:34 PM » |
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Thanks for the compliments.  You will notice by not using the spacers, the guide rail edge sits over a column of holes which may leave you with some tear out on cuts. The spacers just mover everything over to miss the holes. The spacers can be anything you have lying around that are of the same thickness. Or you might want to make something to slip over the dogs (like a donut shape or a washer). A 13/16" hole should allow it to slip over the dog nicely. I hope you enjoy the dogs.  Contact me about the Rail Dogs and your ideas. I've stumbled onto some ideas myself and I could use a another tester for something new. |
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2013, 08:17 PM » |
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Yes -- the Qwas dogs are awesome and make lots of set ups quick and easy. I need to get some rail dogs at some point and using those you can eliminate kerfing all over the MFT top and just everything the same way as cross-cutting.
Scot
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2013, 08:48 PM » |
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I concur- I actually can't believe the MFT came without precision dogs from the factory!
I use them for everything.
Actually been setting the fence by sliding it up to two dogs at far left and right, holding it there, then clamping it.
I leave the left fence component off as I find it shifts slightly as I tighten it down.
So instead I just leave the two dogs in place with the fence against them for stability. Works great.
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sancho57
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2013, 01:12 AM » |
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Thanks for the compliments. You will notice by not using the spacers, the guide rail edge sits over a column of holes which may leave you with some tear out on cuts. The spacers just mover everything over to miss the holes. The spacers can be anything you have lying around that are of the same thickness. Or you might want to make something to slip over the dogs (like a donut shape or a washer). A 13/16" hole should allow it to slip over the dog nicely. I hope you enjoy the dogs. Contact me about the Rail Dogs and your ideas. I've stumbled onto some ideas myself and I could use a another tester for something new. Hey Qwas what a surprise, good to see you here posting again, , I definately will let ya know what I come up with. Ill try the spacer. Ill make one tomorrow and let ya know how it works out for me. |
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2013, 05:20 AM » |
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Yes -- the Qwas dogs are awesome and make lots of set ups quick and easy. I need to get some rail dogs at some point and using those you can eliminate kerfing all over the MFT top and just everything the same way as cross-cutting.
Scot
LOL, Steve has an MFT top that has more kerfs than you can imagine. Maybe that was the inspiration... |
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2013, 10:27 AM » |
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Am the only one having trouble getting to the www.qwasproducts.com website? Getting "cannot connect". |
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I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now.
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sancho57
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2013, 11:13 AM » |
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Am the only one having trouble getting to the www.qwasproducts.com website? Getting "cannot connect". Bob Marino sells them, thats where I got mines. He also sells pkg deals, like 2 rail dogs and 4 qwas dogs inna kit form. |
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2013, 11:24 AM » |
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Yes, we're having some troubles with the website and email servers. We're not sure when it will be back up at this time but we're working on it.
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2013, 11:31 AM » |
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I seriously cannot wait to get my MFT and a set of qwas dogs. saving up for a relitively large festool purchase next month and qwas dogs are in the budget these seem like a no brainer; such a simple yet invaluable tool! |
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2013, 03:45 PM » |
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You poor guy, soon you'll be waking up at night thnking of new ways to use these tools and creating jigs etc….
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2013, 05:03 PM » |
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The website is back up and running. I know I lost some e-mail so if you sent an e-mail and it has't been answered by me, try sending it again.
Thanks guys.
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2013, 06:07 PM » |
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You poor guy, soon you'll be waking up at night thnking of new ways to use these tools and creating jigs etc….
LOL!!!! I do that now, are you telling me it gets worse?  |
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2013, 10:16 PM » |
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Oh yea when cant pay the credit card bills we have a 12 step program…
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2013, 12:41 AM » |
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I'm another one who uses Qwas dogs behind my MFT fence.
Another use I've discovered for the Qwas dogs is as a super square - two of them in a horizontal row, another two in a vertical column, and if I hold a square piece of plywood against all 4 of them, all of the dogs should all have some resistance being turned by hand. If that corner of the plywood is out of square, one of those dogs will spin with no resistance. I've used this when setting up my tablesaw, too, to check its squareness.
I don't quite trust that my MFT fence and rail are square after putting them back on (things get knocked around), so I do a quick crosscut, remove the waste, slip two Qwas dogs in to the right of the rail, and slide the plywood over. If one of the dogs spins, time for a little adjustment. Often it's just blowing out some sawdust that's preventing the rail supports from hitting the stop cleanly. A spacer piece of ply between the rail and two Qwas dogs works too, but I like to test against a real cut as a final check. Just gotta make sure not to *slam* the ply into the dogs.
Scott
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« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2013, 11:09 AM » |
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Ill have to try that.
Thanks
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