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Offline endjur

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Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« on: August 19, 2016, 07:19 AM »
There is a lot of discussion on HK(C) 55 saws recently on FOG, so I thought it would be nice to write first post on FOG and share some of my experiences with that saw. I have HK 55 (corded version) + FSK 420 cross cut rail for about 8 months now. I'm not a professional woodworker and I don't have workshop that packed with Festool and Felder goodness. I'm just homeowner that reserved everything made from wood to be done by myself in house I just bought. I'm skilful enough to get that done really good and enjoy the outcome of my work. So beware, this amateur sharing his opinion ;)

Why HK55 was a good choice for me?

  • I wanted to limit the amount of tools and also their cost - we all know that new houses are expensive  [wink]
  • I really appreciate quality of things and I'm able to pay for that extra to get better results, performance, etc. - HK 55 is worth it

I used HK55 as my only circular saw in following jobs

  • Kitchen - Majority of stuff I ordered as pieces cut to dimension and ready to assemble, but still there but were quite a lot of changes to original project. HK55 was used to cut melamine chipboard, oak veneered plywood, solid wood.
  • Three Wardrobes
  • Wood deck

What I really like

  • Speed - this is the thing I like the most in this saw. Whenever I had to do a quick cross cut, just used the FSK rail. Quick angle set and done - smaller pieces you can cut in the air, just holding the saw and piece you cut in your hand (not a safest option though). Need to trim the door, all you need is FS rail and done.
  • Precision - bevel angle setting is much better than in TS55 - one knob that locks angle on both ends of the saw. Mine was set up perfectly out of the box, but if you need to correct 0/90 degree point there are two screws that allow that. Also you can easily adjust the angle scale arrow/pointer.
  • Versatility - it's the saw that can do almost every kind of cut - rip cut, cross cut, plunge, you name it!. The big advantage for me was that with FSK rail I saved myself some money that I would spend for SCMS. Is SCMS redundant then when one have HK(C) 55 saw? NO Small pieces are hard to cut with FSK rail and also SCMS is more convenient to have.
  • Additional handle on bottom plate - this is super handy during beveled cuts

What I don't like

  • No 45 degree bevel stop - the saw goes up to 50 and that's good, but it would be awesome to have predefined 45 stop.
  • Dust collection could be better - I realize this is not a TS55 that is purposed to be used indoor with dust collector, but with little effort this could be done much better. I mean what is the point of leaving blade exposed that much. I'm thinking about designing 3D printed cover than can be attached to plastic part of blade cover.

Mythbusters

  • HK(C) 55 can't use TS55 blades - yes it can! - I've been using TS55 48 teeth blade for about 80% of time. There are few things to keep in mind though. Riving knife is 1.8mm so it won't do it's job with thicker kerf blades, but since 48 teeth blade is mostly used for crosscuts and sheet goods, it's not a big problem. Also on cordless version you're looking into shorter battery life.
  • HK(C) 55 can't plunge - yes it can! - it's just not as convenient as in TS55. It's two handed operation. You have to set the depth of cut, push the button to enable plunge mode. Then you lift the blade cover with your left thumb, while holding the handle on baseplate. Your right hand holds the saw, places it on rail and does the plunge motion.
  • HK(C) 55 is cheaper thus less precise than TS55 - no it's not! - I did side by side comparsion with TS55 on plywood and melamine with 48 teeth blade. The only thing that was different is that offcut piece's edge is not protected by splinter guard, thus is chipped/not as pristine.
Summary

HK(C) 55 is great saw, especially when combined with FSK and FS rails. Despite the fact I'm not professional woodworker, I really think that it could be one and only circular saw in the workshop. Especially if one want's to minimize amount of equipment or is just starting professional career/shop.

I still would like to buy TS55 and Kapex and have my HK55, to get the work done even faster and better. But HK55 is such good compromise, that I can't really justify cost of those.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2016, 07:21 AM by endjur »
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Offline RJNeal

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2016, 08:01 AM »
Thank you for your review.
I'm on the fence about getting one.

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2016, 08:42 AM »
I love mine. I use the same dust guard that I use on the TS-55, dust collection is a heap better. Only problem is one of the clamps needs a few seconds on a bench grinder to fit correctly. That one has me baffled.
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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2016, 08:47 AM »
Thank you for posting such a concise, well laid out 'report.' 
Surely will be helpful to anyone thinking about getting this saw.   

Off topic: 
See you have a PS420 - wondering how much you've used the jigsaw,
and, what your thoughts are about it? 

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Offline Tom Gensmer

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2016, 08:55 AM »
Great review!!

I've been using a KSS-400 (Mafell's 160mm captured track saw) for several years now and I absolutely love it. At nearly $1000, the price tag is a bit steep for anybody other than pros, but the pricing on the HK55 should make it much more accessible to the broader woodworking market.

For flexibility, this class of saw is spectacularly adaptable. I've used my KSS-400 to trim out whole projects, negating the need for a miter saw for most applications. While this class of saw doesn't necessarily completely replace a plunge cutting saw or a miter saw, it does have a tremendous amount of overlap and should be a great addition to most carpenters core kit.

I'm excited to handle this saw in person, glad to hear you're enjoying yours!
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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2016, 09:21 AM »
Great information, thanks for taking the time to share your in-depth report.  [thumbs up]

I would completely agree that this is a great substitute for a miter saw. It basically is a miter saw turned upside and the miter saw rails are replaced with a track.
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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2016, 10:23 AM »
I love mine. I use the same dust guard that I use on the TS-55, dust collection is a heap better. Only problem is one of the clamps needs a few seconds on a bench grinder to fit correctly. That one has me baffled.
  Can you take a picture of that mod and issue for us?  Just wanting to clarify... [smile]
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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2016, 11:02 AM »
Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts with us @endjur  !

Great write up!

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2016, 11:26 AM »
Great write-up endjur, and welcome to the FOG!

The specifics of your nice equipment selection choices aside, I think it underscores a larger point, at least to my mind.  And that is, how important it is to put down on paper for yourself and perhaps for others the thought process whether for a business startup or for a sizable layout of the budget on tools, etc.  It helps crystalize the reasons and cuts through all the confusion that goes on inside the head when you're trying to decide back and forth.  Unless you have a mind like a steel trap, the written notes help avoid the overspending that one falls into when confronted with too many choices.  There's also something to be said in limiting yourself, at first anyway,  to do as much as possible with one tool--it makes you really get to know that equipment towards a higher intuitive level.  And I think in the end it makes you a better craftsman.

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2016, 12:17 PM »
Great write up and thanks very much. I am just getting familiar with the HK55 (since it is new to the US). Is there a way to cut crown using the HK55--or is that something where I'd still need a miter saw?
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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2016, 08:24 PM »
I love mine. I use the same dust guard that I use on the TS-55, dust collection is a heap better. Only problem is one of the clamps needs a few seconds on a bench grinder to fit correctly. That one has me baffled.

Do you have a part number for that dust guard please? Like to look into modifying one as well.

Cheers.

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2016, 08:30 PM »
BTW great write up! I have nearly same setup. HKC55, FSK 420 and FS1400. Together with my Dewalt tablesaw I have most things covered! I was amazed by how well the little beaut works in plunge mode on the 1400 rail!

My only minor complaint is turning the thing on feels a bit awkward when not perfectly behind and over the unit. Or maybe I have small baby hands or something. ;)

Cheers.

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2016, 09:27 PM »
I love mine. I use the same dust guard that I use on the TS-55, dust collection is a heap better. Only problem is one of the clamps needs a few seconds on a bench grinder to fit correctly. That one has me baffled.

Do you have a part number for that dust guard please? Like to look into modifying one as well.

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2016, 04:34 AM »
Hello All,

I am also a new user of an HKC55 with the FSK420 rail. Yesterday afternoon I built some racking to allow me to store my power garden tools in the garden shed. All I used was the HKC and hand tools. I agree with all the sentiments above.

The only thing I would like to add is that I would also consider the FSK250 rail for joinery work. Having half a meter of aluminium track permanently attached to the saw takes a bit of getting used to swinging around.
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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2016, 02:58 AM »
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Why HK55 was a good choice for me?
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For a review that is not overly technical, this is very well done in the way it outlines the reasoning to go for those tools.

And it makes perfect sense that you choose those tools for the tasks at hand.
Well done Sir.

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2016, 04:15 AM »
Hello All,

I am also a new user of an HKC55 with the FSK420 rail. Yesterday afternoon I built some racking to allow me to store my power garden tools in the garden shed. All I used was the HKC and hand tools. I agree with all the sentiments above.

The only thing I would like to add is that I would also consider the FSK250 rail for joinery work. Having half a meter of aluminium track permanently attached to the saw takes a bit of getting used to swinging around.

I think the FSK250 is a must have if you have HKC55 as it is perfect for rails and such.. It should be a choice when you choose the set option, the FSK 250 and long FSK 670 might be the preferred setup for some users. I'll get the long one if and when it looks like I have a job working with materials in that length..
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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2016, 04:44 AM »
I think when I go for the HK85 I will see if I can get the FSK250 rail for use with the HKC55 and I will save the bigger rail for the larger saw. I think one other good benefit is the compatibility with the FS rails for the longer cuts.
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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2016, 06:31 AM »
I have the hkc 55 250mm rail and the 670mm rail

I have taken the stop off the 670mm rail and you can make longer cuts without the stop getting in the way.

I also you the hkc saw with a ts55 48tooth blade only for cutting melamine or mdf.
The 250 rail is perfect for cutting kitchen kicks to length etc

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Offline Matt Ro

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2016, 10:06 AM »
I agree on the HK55.  I actually just purchased the cordless version and my TS55 is getting jealous.  Sorry, TS55!  Nothing last forever!

Thanks for the review.  It was good reading.

Offline SHJ NH

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2016, 02:43 AM »
We do real estate maintenance and gardening.

For me the same reason why I bought a HK55 with 2x FS1200 and a FSK250. Next spring I'll buy a second van and sometimes I'm considering to buy a Kapex, but we don't do carpentry work every day so I think I'll buy a second set of HK55 with guide rails.

We use it a lot with making things of garden wood like fences, deckings and summerhouses. In homes for some plywood and laminate.
Outdoors no problem but dust collection could be better. I'll try the dust guard of the TS55.
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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2016, 10:07 AM »
The HK 55 was my second Festool purchase and my first purchase of a saw from the company.  The first tool was the Finish sander 150/3.

First impressions of the tool are it feels great.  Light weight and easy to operate.  Although I slammed my left thumb a few times when hitting the switch to disengage the plunge feature.  Seems like a really odd thing for designers to not plan into the saws operation but it will only happen a few times before your brain remembers "place thumb there = experience pain"

Super easy bevel adjustments.  The plunge depth adjustments are super easy too... again, the first few times I probably looked like a total noob as I tried to figure out the correct sequence of steps but it only took about 15 minutes of using the saw to get it under muscle memory. 

Clean cuts but I guess you all know that..

The saw saved my life on a job where I was installing 9" MDF baseboard and my SCMS experiences a catastrophic bearing failure which caused damage to the armature.  Having no other options for cutting base this large I took the plunge when I walked into the lumberyard and they have the saw on display.  It is a different head you need to use as planning out certain cuts can be pretty tricky when using a saw like the HK55 instead of a SCMS.  Small cuts ( 8" or less )  which have an outside miter on one side and a cope on the other created the most issues but maybe having a more "festoon like" system of clamps/bench dogs would make this easier/safer.  I had to make due and it was awkward but achievable. 

What I am not entirely happy about is the amount of dust still tossed around the room when cutting MDF.  Maybe my expectations were too high all things considered.  The blade shroud allows a lot of dust to escape during the plunge operation.. I guess with the regular track saws this isn't as much of an issue since the blade is fully enclosed?  Once engaged ( the plunge operation ) the dust collection seemed adequate, but again not exactly what I was expecting given the Festool claim to fame regarding dust collection. ( hooked up to a RIGID portable vac with a bag installed )  The saw seems to pick up the same amount of dust my EZSMART equipped circular saws are able to pick up.  Not familiar... ? - EZSmart system.  For the cost of the saw, I feel my expectations are not unrealistic ones... I know some dust will get out but it sure felt like 20-25% of the dust made it out on plunge and 15-20% was escaping during the cutting operation.  Not enough to cut inside a customers house without setting up plastic walls for all day cutting jobs.  By comparison, my SCMS setup captures at least 90% as I have the Fastcap saw tent thing.. can't remember the same but you probably all know what I am talking about.  That combined with a shop vac is pretty effective at keeping the dust right under the say station.  Once I shifted over to the HK55... the entire room was covered in a layer of dust by the end of the day. 

So, I am hoping a modification might be available to help capture more of that dust.  I'll have to look up the part the user mentioned above which is slightly modified from the TS55. 

All in all, I am pretty happy although I still have moments where I am debating whether I chose the right saw for my needs.  I just really like the idea of this saw operating like a standard circ saw and no track required.  I have about 15 days left on the 30 day return..   I'll be debating that with myself and also considering the substantial financial investment by continuing to drink the green cool-aid  [big grin] - that has been the hardest part for me to swallow in all honesty.

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2016, 10:51 AM »
Thanks for the review. Im still on the fence about this saw as well. Debating whether the extra capabilities of the HK are worth the extra cost for me over a Makita track saw. Id like to hear more about Daves dust collection mod as thats an important factor for me.

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2016, 11:54 AM »
"What I am not entirely happy about is the amount of dust still tossed around..."


You don't describe your cutting setup and you're pretty new to Festool so I'll just suggest that you do your cutting on a sacrificial panel like foam insulation board. This is standard operating procedure with the TS saws and it significantly improves dust collection.

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2016, 04:19 PM »
Well many of the cuts were made with no sacrificial surface under the base.  I placed a few strips of wood to lift the base off my work table and cut so that probably has something to so with the amount of dust that was flying around.  I will take that tip and try it out tomorrow!  Thanks. 

The plunge into the MDF is where most of the dust that made it all over the room came from.  I suspect that is just the fact of life I will have to get used to if I decide to stay with the HK 55.  It's possible that the TS55 might be the better choice but I still really like the form factor of the HK, it's use without a rail and the single knob to change the bevel which I need to operate quite frequently if cutting wide mouldings. 

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2016, 04:23 PM »
Well many of the cuts were made with no sacrificial surface under the base.  I placed a few strips of wood to lift the base off my work table and cut so that probably has something to so with the amount of dust that was flying around.  I will take that tip and try it out tomorrow!  Thanks. 

The plunge into the MDF is where most of the dust that made it all over the room came from.  I suspect that is just the fact of life I will have to get used to if I decide to stay with the HK 55.  It's possible that the TS55 might be the better choice but I still really like the form factor of the HK, it's use without a rail and the single knob to change the bevel which I need to operate quite frequently if cutting wide mouldings. 

For me expensive wide moldings will always be cut on a tuned up miter saw. No way in heck an I drawing a saw across moldings, especially finished. I see these saws for framing, not trim work myself.
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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2016, 04:31 PM »
yes..if you read my first post though you will see my SCMS went down and is in for repair now.  I really didn't have much choice if I wanted to continue working.  Honestly, the saw actually did a great job cutting the miters for outside joints and copes. You wouldn't I cut them with a fancy circsaw by just looking at them.  This was MDF so nothing was pre-finished and all the cuts were made with a track so the base of the saw never rode across the surface of the moulding.

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« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2016, 10:42 PM »
So today I tried putting a piece of cardboard on the blade side of the saw as it was cutting.  This resulted in what I was hoping for.. this provided the "virtually dust-free" results promised by the Festool advertising.  So now it's just a matter of seeing if I can make that modification to the Cover Plate or I'll figure something else out.  The dust that was spitting out into the room during the plunge action was getting sucked right up by the vac.  I also made sure to have a sacrificial surfaced under the boards I was cutting and that further eliminated the dust. 

I'm not sure who the target audience is for this saw but it seems to be a pretty sweet set up for a trim carpenter / cabinet maker.  I guess the thing I like most about the saw is the familiar feel it has for me coming from using Makita / Hitachi circ saws.  I can't say this from experience since I have never used a TS 55 but from what I have experienced, this saw might start taking some sales away from the TS 55?  Seems a few of the FOG users that have used both feel that way. 

Thanks for the tips!

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« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2016, 11:16 PM »
I'm not sure who the target audience is for this saw but it seems to be a pretty sweet set up for a trim carpenter / cabinet maker.

Actually, I think the target audience for this saw is the framer group, which usually cuts 2X materials. The trim carpenter & cabinet maker have the TS 55 to drool over.

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2016, 09:13 PM »
So I am curious about a more experienced users thoughts... I am looking at the HK55 as a tracksaw minus a few niceties of the TS55 but at a fairly cheaper price.  I know they are marketing it as a saw for rough carpentry but it is way more than that, isnt it?  Is the TS55 that much better?  From what I can tell the HK55 has more ability with depth of cut and can use the FSK AND FS track.  Setting a bevel cut is faster/more convenient.  It is also more useable off a track.. I am not even sure you would want or be able to use the TS models pff a track?  With the right blade, the saw is capable of high quality finished cuts.  The HK doesnt have the splinter gaurd for the right side of the blade and the blade is more exposed during the cut so dust collection isn't as good out of the box.   Aside from these two small downsides, is there something else I am missing since I dont have experience using the TS55?
 

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2016, 01:14 AM »
I've experience of both. In my opinion the HK is the allrounder on a site, mostly outdoors. The TS is more for indoor use on a site or for furniture making. For example when you are a contractor, build complete houses and you have both; I think in the beginning you will take the HK and leave the TS in the van further in progress when you more jobs to do inside you'll take the TS and leave the HK in the van.

In the near future, would I buy a TS? Yes!
After purchase a TS would I sell my HK? Certainly not!
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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2016, 02:42 PM »
Will the TS55 work with the FSK420 rail such that the TS55 can
do cutoff and miters like you can with the HK55+FSK420 combo.

So I guess what I am asking can you mount the TS55 on a FSK420
rail and have it operate like the HK55. I know the TS55 is a plunge
saw and the HK55 is normally not used in plunge mode.
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Offline copcarcollector

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2016, 02:48 PM »
@Bob D

Will the TS55 work with the FSK420 rail such that the TS55 can
do cutoff and miters like you can with the HK55+FSK420 combo.

So I guess what I am asking can you mount the TS55 on a FSK420
rail and have it operate like the HK55. I know the TS55 is a plunge
saw and the HK55 is normally not used in plunge mode.

No. The TS saws will only work on the FS rails, the HK saws will work on the FS and FSK rails

Offline JimH2

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2017, 10:50 AM »
I don't think there is anyway to avoid the fine dust particles that MDF puts off atleast not with a portable dust collector.

Offline johnbro

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2017, 03:54 PM »
Just found this thread and appreciate the great write up! I've played with this saw in the store and think it would be awesome for construction/framing. I used to either drag out my Kapex on the rolling stand or more commonly set up my older 10" Makita SCMS for cutting 2x lumber. I personally hate using the Skil 77 saw I have as it's heavy, kicks hard on startup, and will fling itself into my face if the wood pinches the blade. And I've dragged my TS 55 and long rails out to job sites for cutting sheathing. However I think I may have built the last outbuilding our little farmette will ever need so I'm not sure I'll ever justify getting one :(
TS 55, 3 guide rails, MFT 1080, RO 150, ETS 150/3, MFK 700, OF 1400, Kapex 120, Domino 500, CT 26

Offline demographic

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2017, 11:46 AM »
I have a HKC and initially didn't see the point to them (the advertising showing a bloke cutting roof battens didn't help show its capabilities off much) but then I saw David Stantons Youtube thing. Bought one and what a great tool it is.

I have to unload and load my tools from/to the van every workday so I can't stand the big numb sliding compound mitre saws, I just have a small light Makita but for a greater length of cut the HKC is a real timesaver.

Plus I have a TS55 set up for ripping sheets and the HKC for crosscutting. Great for making up pipeboxing.

Offline Cheese

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2017, 12:04 PM »
...and the blade is more exposed during the cut so dust collection isn't as good out of the box.   Aside from these two small downsides, is there something else I am missing since I dont have experience using the TS55?

Actually, the dust collection with a just a bag on the HKC is pretty impressive for an open blade saw. Festool did a great job in channeling all of the sawdust to the outlet port of the saw. Haven't tried it with a vac attached yet, that should be even better.

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Re: Why I bought HK55 + FSK420 instead of TS55 + Kapex
« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2017, 12:29 PM »
Actually, the dust collection with a just a bag on the HKC is pretty impressive for an open blade saw. Festool did a great job in channeling all of the sawdust to the outlet port of the saw. Haven't tried it with a vac attached yet, that should be even better.

I've used my HKC with an extractor (my CTM 26) and its pretty good, Not as good as my TS55 as the dust shroud/blade cover isn't as big but its still better than any other saw I've used.

Obviously being a cordless tool it doesn't switch the CTM on when I start it but thats not rocket science to flick a switch.