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Title: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Festool USA on March 31, 2014, 12:20 PM
I have added a search tool to our website that will allow you to select your sander model, application and optionally preferred grit range. The website will then display abrasives that match your search criteria.

I hope you all find this useful.

http://www.festoolusa.com/abrasives (http://www.festoolusa.com/abrasives)

Shane
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Bob Marino on March 31, 2014, 12:25 PM
Very helpful. Well done.

Thanks.

Bob
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Sean Ackerman on March 31, 2014, 01:23 PM
You are the man.  Awesome stuff.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: neilc on March 31, 2014, 02:15 PM
Nice addition, Shane!  Thank you.

Do you have application recommendations for Stone or Metal?

 I did not see them in the options and know there have been questions on FOG in the past about both of them.  I've used Granat on limestone in the past with great results.

neil
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Festool USA on March 31, 2014, 02:22 PM
Do you have application recommendations for Stone or Metal?

Neil,

We do have stainless steel and non-ferrous metals as an option.

Stone is not listed (yet), but I will see about adding it.

The purpose is to cover the top 95% of applications. There will still be some tasks that are too specific to cover everything, I'm sure.

Shane
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: JimRay on March 31, 2014, 03:23 PM
Super job, Shane! Well organized and easy to use.

Jim
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Festool USA on March 31, 2014, 03:24 PM
Super job, Shane! Well organized and easy to use.

Thanks, Jim. Almost a throw back to the old Select-A-Screw.  [smile]
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: RDMuller on March 31, 2014, 03:31 PM
Nice!!!!
Any chance of converting it to a smart phone app??
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: NYC Tiny Shop on March 31, 2014, 03:35 PM
Great service! A page to bookmark! Thanks!
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: gkaiseril on March 31, 2014, 03:58 PM
Nice!!!!
Any chance of converting it to a smart phone app??

Works great with Opera, FireFox, Chrome,, and the provided web browser on a Samsung S3. But this requries an internet connection.

Shane,

Very nice.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: dicktill on March 31, 2014, 06:08 PM
VERY nice Shane, thanks a bunch! I'm sure a lot of work went into this already, but one request: When multiple abrasives such as Rubin, Granat, Brilliant, and Cristal all show up, say for the ETS 150 for sanding bare wood, could you have some sort of "1st choice, 2nd choice, etc."?

Regards, Dick
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Festool USA on March 31, 2014, 06:12 PM
Dick, maybe I need to make it clearer, but they are in order of recommendation.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: dicktill on March 31, 2014, 07:15 PM
Dick, maybe I need to make it clearer, but they are in order of recommendation.

I was wondering if that was the case, but it didn't "hit me upside the head". Thanks again!
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: gnlman on March 31, 2014, 07:25 PM
Sandpaper for dummies(j/k)....perfect for me....thank you very much, a great tool to make our choices easier....especially for us non pro's...that would be me.....

Greg
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: TelcoRandy on March 31, 2014, 07:25 PM
Finally something that isn't NAINA!
I'm an abrasives newbie so I'll definitely check it out.

Thanks Shane!
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: JimRay on March 31, 2014, 11:29 PM
Thanks, Jim. Almost a throw back to the old Select-A-Screw.  [smile]

Embarrassed to say that Select-a-Screw never worked as well as this new "Select-an-Abrasive"

Jim
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Chip S. on April 01, 2014, 08:42 AM
Awesome. Super-useful.

Chip
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: SRSemenza on April 01, 2014, 12:15 PM
I like that it places the results in order of best for the task.

Seth
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Festool USA on April 01, 2014, 01:04 PM
Added backing pads to the search results to make it easy to see what pad(s) are available for your sander.  [thumbs up]
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: grbmds on April 01, 2014, 01:09 PM
Is there a significant difference in results or paper life between Granat and Rubin for prepping bare wood for staining and/or finishing? In my one use of the 125 I thought the results were great with the Granat I bought as a set with the sander.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Festool USA on April 01, 2014, 01:10 PM
Is there a significant difference in results or paper life between Granat and Rubin for prepping bare wood for staining and/or finishing? In my one use of the 125 I thought the results were great with the Granat I bought as a set with the sander.

No, for bare wood, the results and paper life will be very similar. You will save slightly on price with Rubin.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Gerald_D on April 01, 2014, 01:24 PM
Thanks Shane- appreciate the efforts in creating this!  I will be using this frequently (and also very soon as I have a new DTS400 on the way).

Regards,
Gerald
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: mheffernan on July 27, 2014, 08:41 PM
Thanks for the link. Very helpful.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Tinker on September 28, 2014, 05:05 AM
This is great, Shane.
I am slowly getting to bottoms of piles of discs I bought many moons ago and renewing as i go.
Your hard work will make my work so much simpler and much easier.
Thanks
Tinker
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - RO90 'sample pack' contents
Post by: Cabenth on October 17, 2014, 07:20 AM
Didn't know where best to put this question so here it is...

I just received my RO90. It is advertised to come with an abrasive 'sample pack' but I only see 2 pieces, both the blue, course grit, one for the delta, one for the round. What is supposed to be in that pack, and are the sheets just tossed in the systainer, not wrapped in a bag or anything?

All the product images indicate 6 pieces, 1 blue and 2 white for both round and delta.
If what I got was correct, why bother?

While we're on the subject, it would be nice if Festool offered an abrasive progression pack, maybe 7 sheets each of 60, 100, 150, 220, 320, 500, and 1k. That's one piece less than your 50 sheet packs, but far more useful for someone who doesn't have a floor to sand (in my opinion).

Thanks for your help
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: mike_aa on October 17, 2014, 09:14 AM
Cabenth,

If you need a small assortment of abrasives for the RO90 or any sander, Tom Bellemare at Tool Home (http://www.tool-home.com/products/catalog/contact_us.php) will gladly make one up for you in the quantities you need for each grit.  He helped me with my RO90 and other sanders I have.  In fact, as soon as I recover from this Recon sale I'll be calling him myself to get one for the recon RS2 I got.

Mike A.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - RO90 'sample pack' contents
Post by: Tom Bellemare on October 17, 2014, 10:00 AM
Didn't know where best to put this question so here it is...

I just received my RO90. It is advertised to come with an abrasive 'sample pack' but I only see 2 pieces, both the blue, course grit, one for the delta, one for the round. What is supposed to be in that pack, and are the sheets just tossed in the systainer, not wrapped in a bag or anything?

All the product images indicate 6 pieces, 1 blue and 2 white for both round and delta.
If what I got was correct, why bother?

While we're on the subject, it would be nice if Festool offered an abrasive progression pack, maybe 7 sheets each of 60, 100, 150, 220, 320, 500, and 1k. That's one piece less than your 50 sheet packs, but far more useful for someone who doesn't have a floor to sand (in my opinion).

Thanks for your help


When the RO 90 first came to North America, it included very generous abrasive packs in both configurations. For quite some time now, it has only had one sheet of Granat in each configuration.


Tom
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Cabenth on October 17, 2014, 10:15 AM
Thanks Tom.

One area where Festool sorely lacks... 2 pieces of paper isn't a 'pack' and it's not even a sample since there's only the one kind of the one grit. At best, it's 'starter paper.' Just enough to be able to make sure the device works. Maybe they should call it 'Proof of Function Abrasive.' (POFA) that's all it is. Suppose the bosses tissue is they advertise a pack, show a picture that should get you started, but I could not find any place where it actually laid out what was in the box.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: grbmds on October 17, 2014, 11:55 AM
I don't remember every buying a sander (and I own older sanders from Makita, Rockwell (really old), and Dewalt) that included any sandpaper. I wouldn't even expect it.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: rst on October 17, 2014, 05:32 PM
Bob Marino sells many grits in 10 packs.  Bob is GREAT!!
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Cabenth on October 17, 2014, 08:07 PM
I don't remember every buying a sander (and I own older sanders from Makita, Rockwell (really old), and Dewalt) that included any sandpaper. I wouldn't even expect it.

I wouldn't expect it either, of a $75 to $150 sander, but the RO90 is a BIT more than that, I feel it's reasonable to expect a little more, perhaps 1 each of a progression, 10 total.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Tinker on October 19, 2014, 02:28 PM
When i started wit my first Festoy sander, i got several different grits in progression starting with 80 grit up to 180.  The problem i discovered was that i did not get the progression in one type, such as Rubin.  Each step up was a different type and I was running into somewhat non satisfaction with my progressions, especially in the lower grades.

By the time i was wearing out packages (I got everything for the 150 in 5 and 10 packs.), I was beginning to understand a little more about what each grade and grit was good for.  My biggest problem was with Rubin.  That seemed to not cut wood as well as elected in the lower grits and it did not seem to last as long as i had hoped.  Once i found grant, I discovered that the RO 150 was a much better sander that i had even dreamed of.  I now have Granat in grits starting at 40, progressing by steps 0f 20 grits up to 100. 

In the past, i found I used a lot more paper in the lower grits as I was sort of getting inpatient until I got to the higher grits.  I now go thru the steps with Granat in much less time, far less impatience and a disc seems to last forever.  By the time i get to the higher grits, I am even using less paper there as the ground work has gone a lot smoother.  I am able to use up my old stocks of Rubin with better results.

I am currently working on a serving tray for THE BOSS while she is away on other side of the big pond.  I sanded the whole tray starting with 60 grit Grant.  actually, i started with 60 grit Rubin and was starting to get impatient.  I was only doing the sides and using the Festoy sanding block that is configured to use a full 150 disc.  I was trying to get rid of saw marks. I had used Bandsaw to rip two of the sides.  They were dead on straight, but with tooth marks. I finally changed over to a disc of Granat 60 and wow! what a difference.  I had intended to use my LS 130, but those marks disappeared so fast doing by hand, i never did take the 130 out of its systainer. Once those tooth marks were gone, the higher grits were easy and fast no matter which type of paper I used.
Tinker
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: SPM in King on December 19, 2014, 05:14 PM
Shane,

I sand a lot of domestic hardwood table tops.  I have had luck with Rubin, but a am slowly moving to Garnat.  When purchased in bulk, the price differential is minimal.

I often fill areas with epoxy mixed with wood dust.  Both the above papers clog quiet rapidly when used at high speed, so I have been turning the speed all the way down to extend the life of the disk.  I typically use 80 or 120 grit for this.  Is there a better disk for this application?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: SRSemenza on December 19, 2014, 07:17 PM
Shane,

I sand a lot of domestic hardwood table tops.  I have had luck with Rubin, but a am slowly moving to Garnat.  When purchased in bulk, the price differential is minimal.

I often fill areas with epoxy mixed with wood dust.  Both the above papers clog quiet rapidly when used at high speed, so I have been turning the speed all the way down to extend the life of the disk.  I typically use 80 or 120 grit for this.  Is there a better disk for this application?

Thanks.

Hi,

   Welcome to the forum!  [smile]

      How has turning the speed down worked out? I have not sanded epoxy, but my guess is that Granat will be the best choice.  Although if you can get your hands on some of the discontinued Cristal I would try that. It has a sparse grit distribution that allows more space between particles. It resists clogging on potentially gummy stuff quite well. I would slow the speed for Cristal as well. Also keeping the sander moving , regardless of abrasive , will help prevent the material from heating up and getting soft.  Check in stores and with dealers, and Ebay for some Cristal. Somebody might still have some.

Seth
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: SPM in King on December 20, 2014, 09:12 AM
Seth, slowing down helps, but ultimately epoxy is nasty stuff to sand.  Cleaning the disk with a crepe block before the epoxy starts to gum up also helps.  Once it actually melts, the disk is finished.  I will try to move around a bit more.  I can see how that would help/  We don't have a lot of dealers up in the frozen north, but I will look for some Cristal.

Thanks for the reply.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Samtor on December 31, 2014, 09:43 AM
I have added a search tool to our website that will allow you to select your sander model, application and optionally preferred grit range. The website will then display abrasives that match your search criteria.

I hope you all find this useful.

http://www.festoolusa.com/abrasives (http://www.festoolusa.com/abrasives)

Shane

Hi Shane,
There seems to be 2 similar grits with different part numbers for Platin.

RO 90 DX (Round) Sander   S500   Super Fine   15   90 mm Diameter   Round   497426   -
RO 90 DX (Round) Sander   S500   Super Fine   15   90 mm Diameter   Round   498322   -
RO 90 DX (Round) Sander   S1000   Super Fine   15   90 mm Diameter   Round   497427   -
RO 90 DX (Round) Sander   S1000   Super Fine   15   90 mm Diameter   Round   498323   -

The official Festool website also has the similar issue but it lists the diameters as 80mm.

Could you help clarify.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Zoofish on January 09, 2015, 12:14 AM
When i started wit my first Festoy sander, i got several different grits in progression starting with 80 grit up to 180.  The problem i discovered was that i did not get the progression in one type, such as Rubin.  Each step up was a different type and I was running into somewhat non satisfaction with my progressions, especially in the lower grades.

By the time i was wearing out packages (I got everything for the 150 in 5 and 10 packs.), I was beginning to understand a little more about what each grade and grit was good for.  My biggest problem was with Rubin.  That seemed to not cut wood as well as elected in the lower grits and it did not seem to last as long as i had hoped.  Once i found grant, I discovered that the RO 150 was a much better sander that i had even dreamed of.  I now have Granat in grits starting at 40, progressing by steps 0f 20 grits up to 100. 

In the past, i found I used a lot more paper in the lower grits as I was sort of getting inpatient until I got to the higher grits.  I now go thru the steps with Granat in much less time, far less impatience and a disc seems to last forever.  By the time i get to the higher grits, I am even using less paper there as the ground work has gone a lot smoother.  I am able to use up my old stocks of Rubin with better results.

I am currently working on a serving tray for THE BOSS while she is away on other side of the big pond.  I sanded the whole tray starting with 60 grit Grant.  actually, i started with 60 grit Rubin and was starting to get impatient.  I was only doing the sides and using the Festoy sanding block that is configured to use a full 150 disc.  I was trying to get rid of saw marks. I had used Bandsaw to rip two of the sides.  They were dead on straight, but with tooth marks. I finally changed over to a disc of Granat 60 and wow! what a difference.  I had intended to use my LS 130, but those marks disappeared so fast doing by hand, i never did take the 130 out of its systainer. Once those tooth marks were gone, the higher grits were easy and fast no matter which type of paper I used.
Tinker
I've used Granat on limestone in the past with great results.




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Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Tinker on January 09, 2015, 07:35 AM
Do you use a CT when sanding(grinding?) limestone?
Does the dust clog your HEPA filters (if you have them on your model)
Tinker
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Tom Bellemare on January 09, 2015, 10:27 AM
Tinker:

I've used a Rotex 150 with Saphir for shaping and taking out saw marks on landscaping limestone slabs. It works great. Prior to Granat being available, I then switched to Rubin, just because I had a bunch of it, and went through the grits to about 120. At about 80, the fossils start to become really noticeable. At 120, they are quite prominent and it starts to feel silky.

I've always stopped there and sealed with teflon impregnated sealer. The next time, I think I'll try going to about 180 and see what I was missing... I'm also going to use Granat after the shaping.

I haven't used a CT yet - I just did it outside. Next time, I'll try dust extraction. I seriously doubt it will get past the bag (5 microns).


Tom
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Tinker on January 10, 2015, 08:20 AM
Tom, I wish I had known about Festoys when i was in MasonBiz.  Especially the sanders and CT's.  We used hammers & wedges to split stones.  Hammers and chisels to dimension. Also Grinders and carborundum blades on circular saws to cut to dimension and shape.  But no DC.  Just good face masks and goggles. A lot of guys used NO face (nose & eye) protection.  Polishing I had done in a shop where I bought my stone already dimensioned to specifications.

I did find lots of sedimentary type stones in the field (excavated as well as gathered from stone walls) with fossils imbedded. I am sure when you sanded around those fossils, you did not sand down into the depressions, but only the flat areas around the imprints if you wanted to save.  Some fossils could be quite graphic showing even the tiniest details in the stone. 

Even tho i no longer even THINK of cutting (or even lifting) stones, i am still interested in the methods used, especially the methods used since i quit the biz around 35 years ago.  there are a lot of new ideas and materials that have come along since '81 that used to be handled at quarries and supply shops.  Some of those, such as your polishing on site are now somewhat routine out in the field.

Tinker
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: jofuss55 on February 11, 2015, 01:28 PM
You know,Shane, this is very helpful and I wished that you had included it in the catalog. The last two revisions have seen the removal of items that should be there!
Just because a dealer is  deemed a woodworking outlet/retailer doesn't mean that the local painters don't call on them for abrasives, or the local metal workers or polishers for that matter. It hurts sales when valued customers can't get all the info from their local dealer.
Maybe this version of the catalog will be more inclusive, I hope so.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Tinker on February 12, 2015, 07:22 AM
You know,Shane, this is very helpful and I wished that you had included it in the catalog. The last two revisions have seen the removal of items that should be there!
Just because a dealer is  deemed a woodworking outlet/retailer doesn't mean that the local painters don't call on them for abrasives, or the local metal workers or polishers for that matter. It hurts sales when valued customers can't get all the info from their local dealer.
Maybe this version of the catalog will be more inclusive, I hope so.

Maybe a page with recommendations of best to use for various trades.  Even tho i no longer play with brick and stone, i still get asked about materials and methods quite often.  Others above, like jofuss55, have mentioned uses other than for wood, to use Festoy sanders and papers.

I have been amazed to have found thru several threads that Festool sanders have been used for concrete and stone.  My first reaction to the earliest questions concerning those materials has been to not even waste one's time (words to that effect).  I am slowly learning that such work can be done.  That was unheard of back when i was 38...

I still am not inclined to think of Festool sanders and discs as even a second choice for stone and concrete.  I am learning.  Actually, I learned to stay away from that work many moons ago  ::)
Tinker
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: powertoolss on February 26, 2016, 02:39 PM
Great to find your post. Thank you
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: ccat70541 on March 16, 2016, 12:27 AM
Useful very well made . Thank you  [big grin] [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: VW MICK on March 16, 2016, 10:29 AM
yes

I found this very helpful in fact a Bit too helpful

it just relieved me of about £200 lol just couldn't decide what to get
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Foghat on March 16, 2016, 03:05 PM
Thanks so much, this is exactlywhat I was looking for to help with several projects, and knowing where to start.
Saves lots of time and let's me get a much better idea of what to do.
Again, Thank you!
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: ckurak on September 18, 2016, 01:19 PM
I have been using Brilliant 2 P220 (496592) for years with my ETS150 for bare wood sanding just prior to spray painting. I ran out and am trying to order more. Your website app says this is the correct part number. But, everywhere I look it shows as "out of stock" or "Discontinued." Is this really true? And, if so, what is the replacement?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Shane Holland on September 18, 2016, 01:21 PM
@ckurak welcome to the forum. Yes Brilliant has been discontinued. Granat is the best replacement choice.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: McNally Family on October 05, 2016, 06:37 PM
I have been using Brilliant 2 P220 (496592) for years with my ETS150 for bare wood sanding just prior to spray painting. I ran out and am trying to order more. Your website app says this is the correct part number. But, everywhere I look it shows as "out of stock" or "Discontinued." Is this really true? And, if so, what is the replacement?

Thanks!

I purchased a bunch of Brilliant2 from Tool Nut (Festool products.com), several months ago when it was on clearance sale.  You might try Bob Marino, or even Amazon.com.

Here is a link I found for 180 grit Brilliant2 150 in a quick google search, although the price seems a little high for a discontinued product.  It will be harder to find what you need, but there are many dealers in the United States, and I'm sure someone has what you need (and if your lucky, it will be at a clearance price).

http://hardwarespot.com/brillant-2-p180-abrasive-6-dia-100-pack-by-festool-496591.html?gclid=CjwKEAjwydK_BRDK34GenvLB61YSJACZ8da36AZ0QjWkOsPWtY52udNn-5CQxJblS6YfufjR6cjCfBoCmBnw_wcB
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: eliyaregister on January 31, 2017, 12:38 PM
Yeah, it is really helpful, thank you
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Midnight Man on March 25, 2017, 02:49 AM
I wanted to take a moment to see whether it's just me that is unable to load the link for this abrasive search (http://www.festoolusa.com/abrasives), or whether perhaps there are geo blocks on the site - I am based in Australia, and I am not aware of a similar tool available on the AU site, so was hoping to use the US based site to determine which abrasives to purchase.

Unfortunately, whenever I try and load the page, I'm getting a "Page cannot be displayed" error :(
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: mattmass on March 25, 2017, 09:36 AM
The tool is awesome! Are the two hand-sanding blocks (496962 and 496964) not covered, or am I just using it wrong?
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Midnight Man on March 29, 2017, 08:48 AM
I wanted to take a moment to see whether it's just me that is unable to load the link for this abrasive search (http://www.festoolusa.com/abrasives), or whether perhaps there are geo blocks on the site - I am based in Australia

I did some further testing on this tonight, as I am still unable to load this page.

It seems there must be some type of geo restriction placed on the entire festoolusa.com site, as I cannot get to either the abrasives tool, nor the normal website (www.festoolusa.com).

I then tried accessing the page using a US based proxy server (this simply makes the website think I am in the USA as opposed to Australia) and the site loaded perfectly.

Would there be any chance that we could please get these geo restrictions removed, as I have now had a chance to look at this tool and it's absolutely fantastic!

If further technical information is required, I'd be delighted to help - this is what I do during the day to make coin to spend on Festool goodies ;)
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: philiclese on March 31, 2017, 03:43 PM
Seems to be an immortal thread, so what grit would you recommend for planex popcorn removal, hopefully followed by minimal touch up and then painting? Festool (or that online dealer) said 80 and 120 (no lower since I've never used and don't want to gouge) but I think he was referring to taking off popcorn and not finishing.  Can I use that heavier grit first and then follow up with 220 or 240 with the pad kit to avoid swirls and gouging before painting, or will it be down to drywall paper after the 80 or 120 so nothing left to finish? Thanks.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Midnight Man on April 29, 2017, 05:01 AM
Just a quick post to say thank you to whomever it was that opened up this tool for those of us in Australia - it's truly appreciated and an awesome resource!

Thank you for creating and sharing this :)
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: ahegyes on May 12, 2017, 03:45 AM
I own both the Bosch GEX150 Turbo and the Festool Rotex 150. The Festool sandpaper ir realy good but expensive, so I was serching for a cheaper alternative for the 17hole patern sandpaper that Festool has.  Till now I had no luck. Now - here it is, Bosch M480. I bought a set of 5 - 80grit for test. All I can say is: GREAT. It works perfectly with the 17hole pad, the dust colection is very good, I might say that is better than with the original Festool paper, and I belive it lasts as long as the Festool.

I do not know if the Bosch M480 is available in the US, I am from Europe. I paid around 5.5euros for a pack of 5 - 80grit - 150mm M480 sanpaper, and a pack of 50 is about 36euros - aprox. 40$. Where I live the Festool Granat 150mm costs about 65$ for the pack of 50. So, I belive the bosch M480 is good value.

Below is a picture with the M480 on my rotex.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: GarryMartin on May 12, 2017, 04:23 AM
It's recommended that you use a "pad saver" when you use mesh/nets otherwise the hooks will wear down very quickly and normal hook and loop sanding sheets won't stay attached.

For your Rotex 150, you're looking at part numbers 499257 (pack of 2) or 496647 for the "Interface pad IP-STF D 150/17-MJ".
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: ahegyes on May 12, 2017, 05:14 AM
NO, no, no...... the Bosch M480 is a velcro type net - there is no need for any pad saver. It has velcro on the mesh and is compatible with any brand "hook and loop" (velcro) machine.

I did use the M480 for a few hours - and I had no problems with it.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: GarryMartin on May 12, 2017, 05:29 AM
Good to know. Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Sanderxpander on September 19, 2017, 04:27 PM
I can't seem to use the tool either :(
I'm in The Netherlands.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Peter Halle on September 19, 2017, 05:35 PM
I can't seem to use the tool either :(
I'm in The Netherlands.

The original link isn't functional.  Here is a link to what is currently on Festool USA website.  Please note that what we have here might be different than what you have in the Netherlands and of course the prices will be different.

https://www.festoolusa.com/knowledge/abrasives (https://www.festoolusa.com/knowledge/abrasives)

Peter
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: jaguar36 on September 20, 2017, 07:40 AM
I can't seem to use the tool either :(
I'm in The Netherlands.
https://www.festoolusa.com/knowledge/abrasives (https://www.festoolusa.com/knowledge/abrasives)

That page is in dire need of some updating.  For one thing the description of the Diamant is actually the description of the Vlies.

It would also be super if it had some useful descriptions particularly where the grits overlap.  For instance lets say I want to remove a fair amount of stock from a oak board; Rubin says its good for that, Garant says its good for bare wood, and Saphir says its good for aggressive stock removal too.  The description of Rubin is particularly poor. It's good for hard wood, but also good for soft wood, ohh and wood products too!  Why not just say its meant for wood?  It reads like someone was just trying to get in a bunch of keyword search terms.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Allfinished on September 26, 2017, 11:21 AM
I’m having trouble finding what paper to use for the 496692 hand sander. Which sandpaper should I be ordering for it and do I need to poke holes in them?
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Shane Holland on September 26, 2017, 11:35 AM
I’m having trouble finding what paper to use for the 496692 hand sander. Which sandpaper should I be ordering for it and do I need to poke holes in them?

Welcome to the forum, @Allfinished. I think you mean 496962, right? It uses the same abrasive as the LS 130 and RTS 400 sanders. Link below.

http://www.festoolproducts.com/accessories/sanders/abrasives/rts-rtsc-400-abrasives.html

(http://cdn.festoolproducts.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/small_image/210x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/f/e/festool-496962-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Allfinished on September 26, 2017, 02:40 PM
Thanks so much!
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: mwildt on February 20, 2018, 12:12 PM
Old thread

Any recommendations for sanding latex paint ? I feel it always clogs the paper no matter speed and suction settings. I've primarily used granat 180-220 paper.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Coen on January 12, 2019, 02:51 PM
Bob Marino sells many grits in 10 packs.  Bob is GREAT!!

For non-pro users that is very nice. But didn't he stop doing that?

I looked into availability of sandpaper for the Rotex 90 here. But straight from Festool it's only packs of 50 or 100 in D90 Granat. D150 Granat is better with 40,60,80,120,180, 320 being available in packs of 10.

Some UK and German sellers sometimes put up assortments on eBay. Shame not more dealers are ripping open packs.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: rvieceli on January 12, 2019, 07:10 PM
Nope. Bob still offers quite a few 10 packs.

https://www.bobmarinosbesttools.com/granat-abrasives-d-90/p/497363/
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: RustE on January 12, 2019, 09:42 PM
Bob Marino sells many grits in 10 packs.  Bob is GREAT!!

For non-pro users that is very nice. But didn't he stop doing that?


I think he stopped for a while when making some changes within his business.

Festool Nirvana also does custom assortments. Yes, it is a slightly higher cost, but still better than buying full boxes to use only a few pieces.
Title: Re: Abrasives search tool - find the right abrasive for your sander and sanding task
Post by: Coen on January 13, 2019, 11:29 AM
Nope. Bob still offers quite a few 10 packs.

https://www.bobmarinosbesttools.com/granat-abrasives-d-90/p/497363/

Yes, the leftovers it seems.