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Offline ADKMedic

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Abrasives Systainer
« on: December 25, 2010, 09:57 PM »
Merry Christmas everyone!

I had a question about the abrasives systainer...  I recently purchased an RO150 (and CT36), and was thinking about this systainer and insert to store papers.  Does the insert only accommodate papers, or will it also accommodate the various sanding pads?

Thanks!

Andy

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2010, 10:23 PM »
Both fit.


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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2010, 10:46 PM »
 Andy,

 As Tom mentioned, both fit; figure each compartment is a tad over 2" in width and will accommodate  2 pads.

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2010, 10:26 AM »
keep them in an empty sys3, full boxes of paper on edge.

the abrasive systainers frustrate me.

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2010, 12:33 PM »
In the RO125 insert there are spaces for extra sanding pads. I presume the RO150 is the same.

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2010, 12:40 PM »
There is a spot for the in the RO 150 insert.


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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2010, 05:03 PM »
Why not make your own insert for an empty Sys3 and size it to fit your needs?  This is what I did for my own RO125.  I bought an empty Sys3 and the foam inserts for top and bottom, then made a grid using 1/4" Baltic birch plywood. 

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Offline ADKMedic

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2010, 09:19 PM »
Sparky -

That looks like a great solution!  I don't think it would work for the RO150, though, because I don't think it is deep enough for two rows of paper.


Warner -

Why do the abrasives systainers frustrate you?


Thanks again!

Andy

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2010, 09:33 PM »
I like the abrasive inserts, even though I am selling mine off.  :)
The one who says it can't be done should avoid interrupting the person doing it.

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2010, 10:06 PM »
Sparky -

That looks like a great solution!  I don't think it would work for the RO150, though, because I don't think it is deep enough for two rows of paper.


Warner -

Why do the abrasives systainers frustrate you?


Thanks again!

Andy

all those sheets stick together and you can't hold a full box in each slot.

Cheaper and easier to put them in full boxes in a systainer.

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2010, 10:16 PM »
I'll repost mine made with a maxisystainer since I use a lot of different types and grits of paper.

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2010, 10:23 PM »
I kind of like my sandpaper stored flat.

When I stored them on their side it was tough just getting one out. They would, stick together and I always ended up pulling out a bunch.
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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2010, 10:36 PM »
I kind of like my sandpaper stored flat.

When I stored them on their side it was tough just getting one out. They would, stick together and I always ended up pulling out a bunch.

I agree.

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2010, 09:10 AM »
Sparky -

That looks like a great solution!  I don't think it would work for the RO150, though, because I don't think it is deep enough for two rows of paper.


Warner -

Why do the abrasives systainers frustrate you?


Thanks again!

Andy

all those sheets stick together and you can't hold a full box in each slot.

Cheaper and easier to put them in full boxes in a systainer.

My solution works fine for the RO125, but you're right, it wouldn't work in this manner for the RO150.  It could work if redesigned such that the disks sat oriented side-to-side.  You'd have fewer usable compartments, but if you used Ken's methodology of the movable dividers between grades of paper, you could fit more into, say, a Sys3.  I thought about the option of storing the paper flat, but also noticed that when I open the boxes of 100 sheets, most of them are already slightly curled, so what's the difference.  I can readily see when I need to replenish any particular grade, like the compartment in the photo that has only one sheet of P180. 

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2010, 05:26 PM »
Hi,

I have the 150 Abrasive insert  (two actually) I like them. One set up for the ETS150 and one for the RO150. Granted a slot will not hold a full box but it holds more than enough for just about any job short of an entire house of siding. I just restock after every five jobs or so. It also keeps me from running out- when I put the last refill in the Systainer from my supply cabinet I know to order more.

Yes the sheets do tend to stick together when trying to pull one out, so I just pick out the stack peel one off put the stack back.  I like that I can just open the Systainer and have the full selection ready to go. I prefer it to taking boxes out and opening them.

I saw a suggestion to go through the stack alternating the sheets front to front then back to back to prevent clinging. I have not tried it.

Lots of ways to do it. Mostly comes down to personal preferance.

 A homade one would be good too.


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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2010, 05:39 PM »
I do like you and remove the stack take one from the middle I do keep the outside disc facing in to stop it abrading the insert. [big grin]
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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2010, 05:43 PM »
Hello all,  can anybody tell me the part numbers for the Festool abrasive inserts ? I believe these numbers are usually embossed in the insert itself.
Thanks in advance and Happy New Year to all

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2010, 08:06 PM »
« Last Edit: December 27, 2010, 08:11 PM by nickao »
The one who says it can't be done should avoid interrupting the person doing it.

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2010, 09:37 PM »
Nick,

Thank you.  I was looking for a source for the DX 93 E insert and one for the appropriate abrasives.

Gary

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #19 on: December 29, 2010, 10:55 AM »
Hello all,  can anybody tell me the part numbers for the Festool abrasive inserts ? I believe these numbers are usually embossed in the insert itself.
Thanks in advance and Happy New Year to all

Hi,

For the 150mm disks/paper/sheets I am about 99.9%  sure (without checking the isert) it is this one  SYS STF D150  #446 658.

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2010, 04:37 PM »
Yup  446 658.

Offline ADKMedic

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2010, 07:07 PM »
Thank you all for your input!  Thanks to Bob Marino, my Abrasives Systainer (plus a whole bunch of supplies for the Rotex) arrived yesterday.  I think it will work very well for me, but there does seem to be a lot of wasted space around the trays.

Andy

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2011, 10:23 PM »
thanks
now I have to rethink everything!

Allen
expensive , how much did the one cost that doesn't work?

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2014, 03:41 PM »
Is the #2 Systainer the right one for both 5" and 4" disks? I like the idea of making my own "innards".
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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2014, 04:18 PM »
Is the #2 Systainer the right one for both 5" and 4" disks? I like the idea of making my own "innards".

Yes.
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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2014, 05:28 PM »
Is the #2 Systainer the right one for both 5" and 4" disks? I like the idea of making my own "innards".

Yes.


I used a Sys3 for the RO 125 discs and a Sys2 for the RO 90 discs. 

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2014, 05:40 PM »
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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2014, 06:45 PM »
Why not make your own insert for an empty Sys3 and size it to fit your needs?  This is what I did for my own RO125.  I bought an empty Sys3 and the foam inserts for top and bottom, then made a grid using 1/4" Baltic birch plywood. 



Willy:

This is probably a stupid question, but it seems like there is quite a bit of space on top of your abrasives. If a person was really careful do you think you could fit the RO 150 abrasives in a Sys2 or is that a little too shallow? The stated depth is 157.5 mm, but I don't know how much you loose to the lid or the ribs?

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2014, 06:58 PM »
Why not make your own insert for an empty Sys3 and size it to fit your needs?  This is what I did for my own RO125.  I bought an empty Sys3 and the foam inserts for top and bottom, then made a grid using 1/4" Baltic birch plywood. 



Willy:

This is probably a stupid question, but it seems like there is quite a bit of space on top of your abrasives. If a person was really careful do you think you could fit the RO 150 abrasives in a Sys2 or is that a little too shallow? The stated depth is 157.5 mm, but I don't know how much you loose to the lid or the ribs?



If you don't mind your abrasives being crunched down, go for it.  If I had an RO 150, I'd shift the orientation of the compartments to side-to-side and have enough space at the top to avoid crunching the abrasives, even if I needed to use a foam pad at the top (and/or bottom/ to reduce the slack.  You WILL lose space both top and bottom to the ribs. 

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2015, 03:22 PM »
Here's what works for me:
I take the cardboard package the abrasive was in and cut the cover to the size/shape as the abrasive itself. I then use the cut cover as a reference for paper type, grit size and it also prevents the different grit papers from sticking to one another. The only abrasives that stick to one another, are all of the same grit. That way I can pull stacks of abrasives out together but the different grits are clearly and easily discerned.

Two stacks of abrasives are removed:

219163-0

The two stacks are sorted to produce the proper abrasive needed:

219165-1

The sorted selection is restacked:

219167-2

The two stacks are returned to the Systainer:

219169-3

LS 130:

219171-4

RS 2:

219173-5

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Re: Abrasives Systainer
« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2018, 10:25 AM »

I saw a suggestion to go through the stack alternating the sheets front to front then back to back to prevent clinging. I have not tried it.


That's what I do,  [thumbs up]   otherwise it's impossible to place 125mm discs in the standard Systainer insert because the discs will not shift into a nice stack and fit in the recess. When the sheets are placed with same surfaces contacting each other, you can cup the stack with both hands and align all of the discs. It also eliminates most of the natural cupping of the discs because over time they will lay flat.

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