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Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« on: May 05, 2015, 01:50 PM »
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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2015, 01:52 PM »
Thanks @Brent Shively ...

Does the PDC 18/4 come with the attic sys like in the UK?

Cheers.  Bryan.
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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2015, 01:54 PM »
Bryan,
Yes, it will.

Brent

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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2015, 01:59 PM »
Bryan,
Yes, it will.

Brent

Thanks Brent.  Ordered and ready to get my hands on this thing... been waiting since it was introduced in the UK!

Cheers.  Bryan.
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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2015, 03:14 PM »
Can someone please explain the main differences between the BHC Hammer Drill and the PDC Percussion Drill

Why would someone choose one over the other?

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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2015, 03:19 PM »
Can someone please explain the main differences between the BHC Hammer Drill and the PDC Percussion Drill

Why would someone choose one over the other?

My .02...

BHC is best suited for a lot of hammer drilling in masonary.  PDC is best for wood/steel and the occasional use of the "hammer" portion.  I am in the latter boat so that is the direction i went.  @jonny round boy had a nice write up on this one when he got it... look for that thread on the best uses for the PDC.

Cheers.  Bryan.
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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2015, 03:21 PM »
Can someone please explain the main differences between the BHC Hammer Drill and the PDC Percussion Drill

Why would someone choose one over the other?

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/crestron-drill-terminology/msg393596/?topicseen#msg393596

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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2015, 03:53 PM »
Is the TSC 55 compatible with the 15v battery?


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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2015, 03:58 PM »
Is the TSC 55 compatible with the 15v battery?

Yes. It will run at a slightly slower speed however.
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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2015, 07:52 PM »
two questions about the pdc 18:

what is the max torque rating of impact wrench, in foot/lbs?

and what is max rpm of drill side?

and how is the c18 different from the t18, and how what is max rpm and torque from c18?

thanks

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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2015, 08:04 PM »
Bryan,
Yes, it will.

Brent

Will any of the other drill kits come with attic systainers? Or better yet, what other kits in general will come with attic systainers?

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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2015, 08:06 PM »
Sorry, just realized this thread was titled for three specific tools.
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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2015, 08:12 PM »
two questions about the pdc 18:

what is the max torque rating of impact wrench, in foot/lbs?

and what is max rpm of drill side?

and how is the c18 different from the t18, and how what is max rpm and torque from c18?

thanks

The PDC is not an impact tool it is a percussion tool. The striking motion is lineal not rotational.

Max speed appears to be 3800 RPM.

Tom

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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2015, 10:27 PM »
two questions about the pdc 18:

what is the max torque rating of impact wrench, in foot/lbs?

and what is max rpm of drill side?

and how is the c18 different from the t18, and how what is max rpm and torque from c18?

thanks


As mentioned earlier the PDC is a Precussion or hammer drill and does not operate as an impact driver.
The Tourqe raitings are as follows:
hard/soft:531-354 in lbs

The RPM raitings are as follows:
1st gear:0-400 RPM
2nd gear: 0-850 RPM
3rd gear: 0-1850 RPM
4th gear: 0-3800 RPM

The difference between the T and C-18 drills is the handle style and the tourqe raiting is 398 in lbs.




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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2015, 09:22 AM »
Does the PDC have a all metal chuck?

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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2015, 09:36 AM »
Does the PDC have a all metal chuck?

The set I got (In Germany) came with a standard Centrotec chuck, and a Standard Jacobs Chuck. There are three other chucks available for the PDC including right angle, and socket adapters.  I don't know if any of the optional chucks are all metal.

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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2015, 09:37 AM »
The Keyless Chuck is the same chuck that our on our current C15., T15, and T18.  All of the inner workings are metal with a plastic outer covering.  The right angle chuck is metal.

Brent

Edit:  We will also have a Metal Keyless chuck available for the PDC. Part number 769065.
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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2015, 09:38 AM »
Does the PDC have a all metal chuck?

The set I got (In Germany) came with a standard Centrotec chuck, and a Standard Jacobs Chuck. There are three other chucks available for the PDC including right angle, and socket adapters.  I don't know if any of the optional chucks are all metal.

Frank

Our version will not come with the socket adapters that Frank mentioned.

Brent

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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2015, 09:17 AM »
In the specs for the BHC18, it mentions crown borer - 2.6" or 68mm. Is a crown borer the same as a concrete hollow core bit? I've never heard the term crown borer before.. Thank you for any help.

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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2015, 09:21 AM »
Well that is disappointing, might as well just keep my 6 year old Hitachi.

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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2015, 09:51 AM »
In the specs for the BHC18, it mentions crown borer - 2.6" or 68mm. Is a crown borer the same as a concrete hollow core bit? I've never heard the term crown borer before.. Thank you for any help.

Yes, they are the same as hollow core bits.

Brent

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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2015, 10:22 AM »
That's awesome, thanks Brent!

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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2015, 10:30 AM »
In the specs for the BHC18, it mentions crown borer - 2.6" or 68mm. Is a crown borer the same as a concrete hollow core bit? I've never heard the term crown borer before.. Thank you for any help.

Yes, they are the same as hollow core bits.

Brent

I've used the BHC 18 with hollow core drills up to Ø82 mm in masonry without any problems.
In concrete that's a different story. I then use my mains powered Bosch GBH 4-32 DFR.
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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2015, 12:46 PM »
Thanks neeleman!

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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2015, 01:25 AM »
Any idea of run time with the two 5.2 Ah batteries for the TSC? I know the videos shot had lower Ah from a year or two ago. Also, how does power compare to the corded version? Is it similar or a little stronger on full charge? Can this saw handle cuts in 8/4 and 6/4 or is it better suited to sheet goods only and 4/4 stock?

I never really considered a battery track saw, but the videos have got me thinking. I really like the dust bag too and it seems like it would be great for lots of things and not having to worry about the dust extractor and cord is a plus in certain applications.

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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2015, 11:42 AM »
Any idea of run time with the two 5.2 Ah batteries for the TSC? I know the videos shot had lower Ah from a year or two ago. Also, how does power compare to the corded version? Is it similar or a little stronger on full charge? Can this saw handle cuts in 8/4 and 6/4 or is it better suited to sheet goods only and 4/4 stock?

I never really considered a battery track saw, but the videos have got me thinking. I really like the dust bag too and it seems like it would be great for lots of things and not having to worry about the dust extractor and cord is a plus in certain applications.

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 The run times could  very depending on  the application.  It can cut 100m of 3/4 plywood on two fully charged 5.2Ah batteries.

The TSC55 has an RPM of 5200 when using two 18v batteries.  The TS 55 REQ as the same 5200 RPM.  It can handle material thicknesses up to 1 15/16".  Blades selection will be key if  you plan on ripping any of these materials rather than cross cutting.

Brent

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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2015, 08:38 PM »
Any idea of run time with the two 5.2 Ah batteries for the TSC? I know the videos shot had lower Ah from a year or two ago. Also, how does power compare to the corded version? Is it similar or a little stronger on full charge? Can this saw handle cuts in 8/4 and 6/4 or is it better suited to sheet goods only and 4/4 stock?

I never really considered a battery track saw, but the videos have got me thinking. I really like the dust bag too and it seems like it would be great for lots of things and not having to worry about the dust extractor and cord is a plus in certain applications.

Thanks


 The run times could  very depending on  the application.  It can cut 100m of 3/4 plywood on two fully charged 5.2Ah batteries.

The TSC55 has an RPM of 5200 when using two 18v batteries.  The TS 55 REQ as the same 5200 RPM.  It can handle material thicknesses up to 1 15/16".  Blades selection will be key if  you plan on ripping any of these materials rather than cross cutting.

Brent

Is there any information about the dust/chip control efficiency for the TSC 55 with the onboard bag?  If this is as good as using a saw with the CT extractor it will be very useful for cutting sheet goods without the hose and wire dragging behind.

Jack

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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2015, 08:41 PM »
Jack,

Dust extraction is not quite as good with the bag as with an extractor, but it's darn close. Matter of fact, you'll find yourself needed to empty the bag every 50' or so. I don't know if there's a spec for % dust collection.

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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2015, 08:42 PM »
Is there any information about the dust/chip control efficiency for the TSC 55 with the onboard bag?  If this is as good as using a saw with the CT extractor it will be very useful for cutting sheet goods without the hose and wire dragging behind.

Jack

It actually works pretty well, but you have to empty the bag pretty frequently. Call it about 85% of the collection that you would get with a CT.

There is a Festool produced video from Germany showing a very long cut using the bags. Search for it, and you'll get a really good feeling about whether it will meet your needs without the CT.

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Re: Consolidated FAQ for the TSC 55, PDC 18 and BHC 18.
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2015, 08:46 PM »
Here's the video Frank is referring to.


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