Currently, there's no option to purchase the bins separately, nor do I know of any plans to offer them separately.

The depth spec' is 15-70 mm so it should work fine.


Tom

Does anyone have examples of what the Domino 500 can do that the Domino XL cannot?
(not just ---"it can cut smaller" ...rather what specific project types can't be done with the XL that can with the 500...)

The 500 can be used on 1/2 inch thick material.  Drawer joints can be made for instance using the 4 mm bit.  The commonly used convention is that your tenon should be approximately 1/3 the thickness of your material.  Using that as a basis, any jointing with materials less than 3/4 thick would best be served by the 500 versus the XL.  As Brian (a Festool Trainer) showed at the show last week, it is possible to use the smallest domino size possible with the XL on 3/4 inch stock - IF you are comfortable with the remaining wood material on either side of domino that results.  If so - go for it.  The cutter length is also greater in the XL so you are inserting more of a tenon into each side of your joint.

I hope others will give more examples for you.

Peter

Peter,

My Domino 500 is perfectly suited for most of my cabinet and furniture needs however, with large doors or large case work, the extra thickness of tenon and length of the tenon capability of the XL 700 is a great addition to my tooling.  Previously large m&t  work was a table saw and hand chisel operation since my previously owned slot mortising table couldn't handle the weight of the large pieces.

Jack

I wish I had a digital camera when I built a series of Honduras Mahogany exterior doors to show the large mortise and tenon work that took "forever" to cut.  With the new Domino XL 700, this work would have taken 1/10 the time (at least).

That's a cruel level of teasing ...

Of course we (Festool) are watching. I started this thread after all. 

I really doubt we will ever see smaller cutters for the XL. I don't know the reason because I'm not involved with those decisions. It's possible that it's to sell more tools (after all, that's how we stay in business), it's more likely that it's mechanical. I would imagine that a 70mm long, 4mm diameter cutter would be susceptible to breaking for instance. They're each designed for specific tasks, the same way we have a TS 55 and TS 75, sanders of different sizes and shapes, different size routers, etc. The OF 1010, 1400 and 2200 are made with the hopes of our customers buying all three models.

I really think each machine suits particular applications quite well with good overlap in the middle. I don't see a lot of customers needing both machines in most cases. With the Domino XL capable of mortising 3/4" material, that should do the trick for a large percentage of customers while still allowing for larger materials.

Shane Holland
Festool USA

I would have liked to have been a bit smarter and less impulsive when I got the OF1400. Based on my needs (hobby DIYer) I got the correct advice from my dealer (particularly in hs expectation of non professional's typical spending). In retrospect I would have gone with combination of OF 1010 and OF 2200.

I say this because I think the two different Domino joiners span the joining spectrum well - one that can cover the entire joining range ... a Domino in the middle would only be ideal for the middle sized stuff, potentially cumbersome for the smaller stuff and under performing for the big stuff.

Don't get me wrong - the OF 1400 is a great router and I won't part with it ... But it'll be the one thay gets used the least when I have an OF 1010 for jigs and an OF 2200 inverted in a CMS module.

I suppose what I've just said could open a can of worms when you consider some sort of CMS module for the big Domino ... All of a sudden it needs be able to do fine stuff in the same way a big router can when it's in a table ....

... Urghhh - have I just reversed my own viewpoint ?   

(and yes, you can put the OF 1400 in a CMS module).

That's all right - I think I disagree with myself !

On pure economics for a DIYer, the OF 1400 makes perfect sense.

Was just trying to use the router range as an analogy for the Domino joiner range ... Beware the emergence of a Domino 600 Midi then 

I think this may have been mentioned or asked about, but we will have the tenon bins and dividers as spare parts. Spare parts can be ordered from your Festool dealer or directly from our service department (number below in my signature).


700715 Container bin
700716 Partition wall dividers

SYS 2

when you get your XL, do not throw out the white stopper. if it is shortened, it may be useful ..

My main question about the latest Domino is:

What is its exact market target? I raise this because surely the original Domino is suitable for making heavier M&Ts too. I believe the new model can handle longer biscuits and thicker sections of timber, but aside from the price, and the design,  what other differences are there?

Also, surely an original Domino can handle bigger section timber by using multiple domino biscuits in one joint.

One more query. Would I be best off buying an original Domino, just for home workshop use?

Thanks
John 

Thanks Kev,

The only large doors I might make would be garden gates, and the like.
I am dubious about switching from old style wedged, through M&Ts for those jobs,  so maybe the older Domino would suit me.
On the other hand, the new one should do all that the older one can, and the facility to go larger is always there.
 For about £300.00 extra I suppose I might as well go for the new model. Just means a bit more saving-up to do! 
Thanks for the info.

Regards
John