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« Reply #60 on: April 22, 2012, 11:23 AM » |
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the new one should do all that the older one can The 500 goes down in size to 4 mm and up to 10 mm. The 700 goes from 8 mm to 14 mm. There is some overlap but the 700 plunges deeper also. They are complementary not the same. It would be inappropriate to use the 700 for cabinets or the 500 for gates/doors. Tom |
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« Reply #61 on: April 22, 2012, 12:14 PM » |
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the new one should do all that the older one can The 500 goes down in size to 4 mm and up to 10 mm. The 700 goes from 8 mm to 14 mm. There is some overlap but the 700 plunges deeper also. They are complementary not the same. It would be inappropriate to use the 700 for cabinets or the 500 for gates/doors. Tom I started using the 700 for cabinets. three 700-pin - a very handy thing, and DF500, which I have two plastic lock, which I removed immediately and not use them. and at the same time, I used to do interior doors made of oak on the DF 500 is already more than a year - no problems .. but still have to have two Domino. |
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« Reply #62 on: April 23, 2012, 01:51 PM » |
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Thanks folks. I'd better go and get a bank loan then, and buy both!  Or carry on using biscuits for the small stuff (Chairs, kitchen doors and baby-cots!) until I can save a bit more cash. Thanks for the information. Seriously, I will start with the smaller model of course! Regards  |
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It started with a : TS 55 REBQ-Plus-FS
Then parallel guides.... Extra tracks. Now a Domino 500! My shop is turning green and black.
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« Reply #63 on: April 23, 2012, 06:38 PM » |
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Thanks folks. I'd better go and get a bank loan then, and buy both! Or carry on using biscuits for the small stuff (Chairs, kitchen doors and baby-cots!) until I can save a bit more cash. Thanks for the information. Seriously, I will start with the smaller model of course! Regards I too was hoping for 1 domino to rule them all. That said, I can understand why that can't be now that I have given it more thought. It might not be a good idea to plunge 70mm on a 4mm domino bit |
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« Reply #64 on: May 02, 2012, 08:04 PM » |
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Have any of the XL 700 reviewers tried the larger 12, 14mm cuts on extremely hard wood? I'm interested to see if these large cutters can plunge into exotics like Ipe, Cocobolo, Rosewood, etc? These woods are extremely hard and dense and I'd like to hear from any of our tool reviewers of any experience cutting large mortises in these or other hard species.
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« Reply #65 on: May 02, 2012, 09:00 PM » |
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Have any of the XL 700 reviewers tried the larger 12, 14mm cuts on extremely hard wood? I'm interested to see if these large cutters can plunge into exotics like Ipe, Cocobolo, Rosewood, etc? These woods are extremely hard and dense and I'd like to hear from any of our tool reviewers of any experience cutting large mortises in these or other hard species.
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If ever I get my hands on some belah, grey gum, sugar gum or grey ironbark ... I'll sacrifice a cutter to see what happens. |
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« Reply #66 on: May 02, 2012, 09:21 PM » |
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Have any of the XL 700 reviewers tried the larger 12, 14mm cuts on extremely hard wood? I'm interested to see if these large cutters can plunge into exotics like Ipe, Cocobolo, Rosewood, etc? These woods are extremely hard and dense and I'd like to hear from any of our tool reviewers of any experience cutting large mortises in these or other hard species.
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I know one of the reviewers of the XL used it on a big pile of Ipe with, per his review, no issues. I have some Cocobolo, but keeping it  |
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« Reply #67 on: May 02, 2012, 09:48 PM » |
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Have any of the XL 700 reviewers tried the larger 12, 14mm cuts on extremely hard wood? I'm interested to see if these large cutters can plunge into exotics like Ipe, Cocobolo, Rosewood, etc? These woods are extremely hard and dense and I'd like to hear from any of our tool reviewers of any experience cutting large mortises in these or other hard species.
Thanks,
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I know one of the reviewers of the XL used it on a big pile of Ipe with, per his review, no issues. I have some Cocobolo, but keeping it Thanks Paul, I have some Cocobolo and as I recall, I bought it by the pound weight  No testing with that chunk! Jack |
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« Reply #68 on: May 02, 2012, 10:13 PM » |
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Have any of the XL 700 reviewers tried the larger 12, 14mm cuts on extremely hard wood? I'm interested to see if these large cutters can plunge into exotics like Ipe, Cocobolo, Rosewood, etc? These woods are extremely hard and dense and I'd like to hear from any of our tool reviewers of any experience cutting large mortises in these or other hard species.
Jack, check out the projects by 360 Degrees about half way down this page, lots of Ipe. No issues at all. http://www.festooldomino.com/mortisers-joinery/features/reviews/ |
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« Reply #69 on: May 02, 2012, 10:51 PM » |
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Have any of the XL 700 reviewers tried the larger 12, 14mm cuts on extremely hard wood? I'm interested to see if these large cutters can plunge into exotics like Ipe, Cocobolo, Rosewood, etc? These woods are extremely hard and dense and I'd like to hear from any of our tool reviewers of any experience cutting large mortises in these or other hard species.
Jack, check out the projects by 360 Degrees about half way down this page, lots of Ipe. No issues at all. http://www.festooldomino.com/mortisers-joinery/features/reviews/Thanks Shane, That is the type of information that I was looking for. OK, I admit it - I'm a tool junkie! I just called Tom and ordered my XL 700. |
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« Reply #70 on: May 16, 2012, 01:59 PM » |
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Something else that I don't recall seeing mentioned here is that the Domino Assortment in the Systainer for the DF 500 now has removable plastic containers like the new ones will.
Tom
 Here is a photo of the 500 Domino assortment Systainer with the new plastic bins. Will the plastic bins fit a Classic Systainer? it would be nice to be able to remove them. |
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« Reply #71 on: May 17, 2012, 02:04 PM » |
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Here is a photo of the 500 Domino assortment Systainer with the new plastic bins. Will the plastic bins fit a Classic Systainer? it would be nice to be able to remove them. The answer is yes and no, Greg... Two of the three bins will fit in the classic Sys 2. The third bin finds interference at the hinge side from the vertical channels that house the clips - the clips that latch a Sys on top. So it partially works. Tom |
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« Reply #72 on: May 21, 2012, 09:04 PM » |
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The first question is what is included in the set? The price looks good & I just may have won the "price guess pool"...  On second thought, I may have gone over? Actually if you average the two sets, I nailed it @ $1225 Jack |
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« Reply #73 on: May 25, 2012, 03:07 PM » |
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Sorry if this has already been covered.
Will my Domino 500 8 & 10mm bits work in the xl 700?
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« Reply #74 on: May 25, 2012, 03:15 PM » |
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Sorry if this has already been covered.
Will my Domino 500 8 & 10mm bits work in the xl 700?
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« Reply #75 on: June 13, 2012, 05:32 PM » |
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Hey all, Is there a combination of Domino XL700 with a dust extractor being offered?
Jack
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« Reply #77 on: June 13, 2012, 09:18 PM » |
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« Reply #78 on: June 28, 2012, 04:41 PM » |
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For those of you who don't subscribe to our email newsletter (shame, shame) -- check out the Ultimate Domino Guide, a compilation of tons of videos and content from around the web with reviews, projects, how-to, etc. http://blog.festoolusa.com/post/2012/06/28/The-Ultimate-Festool-Domino-Guide.aspxA special thanks to the FOG members who are included in this guide, especially Mr. Domino himself, Paul-Marcel. |
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« Reply #79 on: February 03, 2013, 08:28 PM » |
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Hi everyone,
I'm totally new to this forum.
I'm looking to get my hands on a domino 700 110v.
I have contacted festool here in Ireland and the UK and they tell me me that they don't intend to release it in 110v anytime in the near future.
It is currently released in 230v but building site health and safety here demand all power tools must be 110v.
I have many of the festool tools all 110v, site ready, which run off a step down transformer from 230v.
I have the option of getting one from the USA through a relative who lives there.
However my problem is that 110v site tools here run at 50 hertz and 110v tools in the USA run at 60 hertz.
The specification label on the tools that i currently own are 110v with a 50 - 60 variable hertz.
My question is does the festool domino 700 xl released in the US have a variable hertz i.e. 50 - 60.
Just wondering if someone who owns this tool would have a look at the specification label and let me know whether it's 60hz alone or 50 - 60hz.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Tom
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« Reply #80 on: February 03, 2013, 08:46 PM » |
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Hi Tom!
Welcome to the FOG.
I hope that Rick Christopherson pops in here to answer you question. After reading many of these types of posts I believe that the universal motors can work on your hertz. But Rick can answer better than I.
Peter
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« Reply #81 on: February 03, 2013, 09:11 PM » |
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Thanks for the welcome Peter
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« Reply #82 on: February 04, 2013, 07:08 PM » |
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I believe universal motors refer to motors that can run on AC or DC current.
I checked my 500, TS 55 and DTS 400, all the motor plates read 120v~60 hz. If you run a motor wound for 60 hz. on a 50 hz. supply, you are giving up 17% (rounded-10/60=.166667) of the RPM, Wattage and cooling efficiency. The motors may be wound for this, the ones I checked do not indicate, on the plate, this to be the case. Someone with a 700 will have to check the motor plate to see if it is dual hertz listed/compatible or not.
Tom
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« Reply #83 on: February 04, 2013, 07:24 PM » |
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I believe universal motors refer to motors that can run on AC or DC current.
I checked my 500, TS 55 and DTS 400, all the motor plates read 120v~60 hz. If you run a motor wound for 60 hz. on a 50 hz. supply, you are giving up 17% (rounded-10/60=.166667) of the RPM, Wattage and cooling efficiency. The motors may be wound for this, the ones I checked do not indicate, on the plate, this to be the case. Someone with a 700 will have to check the motor plate to see if it is dual hertz listed/compatible or not.
Tom
Your own posting explains why it is a non-issue. Universal motors do not care about frequency of the incoming power. The rest of your posting is pertinent to Induction motors, where frequency is important. For these tools, it does not matter. |
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« Reply #84 on: February 04, 2013, 09:04 PM » |
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Hi Rick
Do you own or have access to a domino 700 xl. Could you tell me what the spec is on the motor plate.
Would be greatly appreciated
Cheers.................Tom
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« Reply #85 on: February 04, 2013, 09:29 PM » |
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Hi Rick
Do you own or have access to a domino 700 xl. Could you tell me what the spec is on the motor plate.
Would be greatly appreciated
Cheers.................Tom
Yes, Tom, I have both tools; but that is not the basis for my answer. The basis for my answer is my knowledge of tools. That knowledge isn't always apparent, because some days I just don't feel like writing long discussions on topics. This happens to be a topic that I have already discussed at length, but tonight, I am preparing for a significant business meeting tomorrow. Suffice it to say that your hand-held power tools are relatively immune to changes in frequency. |
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