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« on: August 04, 2012, 02:01 PM »

I need some end user experience here. For those that have used these products I need some help with some purchase decisions. I am an advanced hobbyist not a professional.  I am looking to upgrade my current shop vac to a CT system. Both the CT 26 and the CT 36 are within the budget so price is not really a decision point at this time. I don't want to waste money but I want the best fit for me.  I love the work center concept and have a home made version now with my shop vac and Rockler vortex on a custom cart that has work center like tool holding capacity.  I really like the cyclone feature.

This is what I am thinking about: If I go with the Dust Deputy for Festool then is there really a difference in the CT 26 or 36 since most of the dust will be in the DD? Am I missing something or is this thought rational?

With a DD it looks like I lose the option of a work center, is that correct or has someone figured something else out?

Does the boom arm still work ok with the DD? OR does this become cumbersome?

Thanks in advance for your input. I love the forum and the ability to get real world advice from experienced users.

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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2012, 02:08 PM »

If you want the workstation capability get the 36 and the long life bag. I have the DD on a sys5 and the long life bag on another and after awhile i have found that the bag does just as good of a job. BuilderBob made a custom workstation that looks real nice. When you add boom arm and DD, you have to be careful of not tipping the unit, Eric
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2012, 02:15 PM »

If you have the space for a DD+dust box and don't want to keep the vac under the MFT table but rather next to it go for it.

If you want to be able to move the vac around or keep it close by under your MFT I'd look hard at the long life bag for the vac you find the right size.

I've got a ctl 26 and it is plenty big and heavy with some dust in it as it is and as a hobbyist I haven't even filled my first bag this summer yet. I wouldn't get a 36 unless I was routing stuff all day long every day. The only difference between the models is the bag capacity. Also haven't experienced any tangible benefit of having the AC model (autoclean) doing woodworking and if I've understood correctly I can't have a HEPA filter because of the automatic filter cleaning feature.

I've also got a cyclone that is never used because it's too cumbersome to use in a mobile workshop of mine.

Can't comment much on the boom arm issue since I don't own one. Would like to though...

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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2012, 02:40 PM »

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if I've understood correctly I can't have a HEPA filter because of the automatic filter cleaning feature


You can turn off the AutoClean feature and use any filter, including the HEPA.


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You want to use a filter bag if turning off the AutoClean feature. It's meant to be used with an open bag, like for drywall.
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2012, 02:46 PM »

I need some end user experience here. For those that have used these products I need some help with some purchase decisions. I am an advanced hobbyist not a professional.  I am looking to upgrade my current shop vac to a CT system. Both the CT 26 and the CT 36 are within the budget so price is not really a decision point at this time. I don't want to waste money but I want the best fit for me.

I wouldn't call myself an advanced hobbyist; more at an intermediate level.

I have had the CT36 with standard bags and no DD for a year and haven't changed the bag yet. I doubt if I will ever want the long life bag. Festool designs these things so that the bag packs pretty well before there is a need to change the bag. As far as the boom arm goes I really think it is a great addition because it keeps hoses and cables off the floor. Put it near a large bench and you have a great workstation.

So for me anyway its:

CT36 YES
Long Life Bag - Maybe after I retire and have a lot more free time.
Workstation - no, just put Systainer on the unit.
Dust Deputy - no
Boom Arm - yes
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2012, 02:54 PM »

Have 26+boom+workcenter. Love it...  have a central cyclone for stationary tools + floor sweep at bench.  Love it...  

time goes by:  tired of wasting bags on general shop cleanup and router use for the 26 (it is a pain to change bags with heavy router use... and gets $$)  ... so i get a mini+udd to use.  i have never looked back.  yes, it's more money.. in fact, a lot more... but boom arm is great and so it the udd...

if you want to save some $$, FWW has an article in this month's issue on making a shop-made boom arm.  You can also save $$ by purchasing a DD kit for about $50 and using an existing systainer4 to fabricate yourself a UDD-type solution (there is a thread on that)....

Find yourself a way to have both...  go shop-made to fund the 2nd vac...
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« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2012, 03:26 PM »

I have a CT22 (predecessor to the CT26), wcr, and the boom arm.  I'm retired and a hobbyist, so I work pretty much in a stationary environment.  I found the combination of the wcr and the boom arm on the vac to be cumbersome, so I simply took the boom off the vac and mounted it on a cinder block in front of my mft.  Works great for me. 

I don't have a dust deputy, but like others I don't see the need.  I'm in the shop most days and I use maybe three bags a year. 

The wcr and the boom arm seem like whimsical luxuries at first glance, but they turn out to be tools you use every day and get a grin every time you use them.
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2012, 03:36 PM »

==> I don't have a dust deputy, but like others I don't see the need.  I'm in the shop most days and I use maybe three bags a year. 

agreed, at 3 bags/year the udd is a waste of space and $$.  At usual rate, i was going through 3 bags/week (and once 3/day)..  That's when I decided I had enough...  The UDD is a plus for me..
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