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« on: April 10, 2012, 09:40 PM »

I purchased a CXS a couple days ago, I have yet to receive it, but immediately got buyers remorse.  It was a bit of an impulse purchase, as I don't need it, but it just looks cool. I also find that I am using my Hilti impact gun less and less since I got the T-15+3.  The impact noise has been really getting to me, so that was another way I tried to justify the purchase.  And, my Fes drill doesn't have a light...     

However, I have been noticing a lot of CXS's on Ebay lately, so I began to wonder...

Has the honeymoon of the new to NA worn off, and people are getting rid of them? 

Do you use it more or less than you expected?

Good, bad, indifferent, what do you think? 

I can't really bring myself to do the whole 30 day thing, so I'd feel better not using if I do decide to send it back.   
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2012, 10:01 PM »

As a cabinetmaker I use my CXS daily and have found it more than I had hoped for. It's light, more versatile than expected, fits perfectly in my hand, and the right angle attachment is great. Some folks will undoubtedly need more power than the CXS can deliver but for my use, I'm thrilled.
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2012, 10:02 PM »

I love my cxs. I also have the same hilti impact as in your pictures, I haven't used it in some time either. The noise of the impact doesn't allow you to hear what your doing plus most of the time the impact is overkill. The way you grip on the cxs is killer and with its light weight and amazing belt clip it's an sweet drill. I use the t-18 to predrill and the cxs to drive most of the fasteners, and if you throw the cxs into speed one there is plenty of power to drive some long screws. The battery life is really good for such a small drill and with the battery's only taking 20 minutes to charge you'll never be left with a powerless drill. My only complaint is that the light shuts off immediately when you let go of the trigger, I wish the light would stay on for a brief period. For installing kitchens the cxs is always with me and I'm contemplating getting a second.

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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2012, 10:10 PM »

I have the CXS and an older  T-15.  Use the CXS a lot for general screwdriving and occasional drilling.  T-15 doesn't see much use except for heavier drilling.

It's an excellent drill - lightweight and very useful.

Love the light and the belt clip too!

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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2012, 11:55 PM »

I really love my cxs drill. Its my favorite to date, and specifically because it is so light weight. I gave away one of my Dewobble drills right after receiving my cxs. Don't miss it.

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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2012, 12:04 AM »

Actually, I use my CXS more than any other drill/driver.  I got myself into a situation the other day where the CXS and its 90 degree head really saved my a**. I'm mostly doing small stuff, but unless your doing decks day in and out, there's a lot of small stuff out there...
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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2012, 01:59 AM »

I hardly ever use any other drill now, unless fixing into masonry.

The CXS even works with the 35mm Forstner bit, which I didn't expect!

The small size and right angle head are really handy in confined spaces.

I don't think you'll regret it once you've tried it.

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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2012, 02:47 AM »

You could regret a lot of things ... but buying a CXS won't be one of them  Smile
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2012, 03:41 AM »

I bought a CXS and hardly use my C15 now. I am actually considering buying 2 more because it is the tool my wife grabs first and I let an AV buddy use it and he is asking to borrow it more often.

I think some users bought the very first CXS which had a lower capacity battery. Not sure about buyers remorse but I love that little tool.
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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2012, 05:07 AM »

still completely love my CXS.
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2012, 07:06 AM »

The CXS has been out for a year over here, i check auction and free ad sites daily and have yet to see any CXS appear on it.
Near christmas there was a show in the states presenting the CXS as an ideal gift, could it be those that you are seeing?
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2012, 07:44 AM »

I got it because I was tired of hassling with a larger drill or impact on some cabinet hardware.

And, truthfully, it was an impulse purchase for me, too. I was pretty skeptical that the Festool drills were worth the money and decided to take a chance.

Was I ever wrong in my previous assessment. It's probably my most used tool these days, and does more than I expected it to.

I appreciate the accuracy of the centrotec system and that I can put a vix bit in the chuck and a driver tip in the extension and switch back and forth easily. Also love the light weight/the balance of the drill/and the way it feels like a natural extension of my hand. It's not just me; my 2 year old daughter has taken to it and will put it to use on any fastener in the house.

And my bigger drill hasn't been out of the box in ages.
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2012, 07:46 AM »

The CSX is my go to drill even for some of the larger jobs that I didn't expect (driving long screws, etc.).  No regrets for me.
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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2012, 08:50 AM »

I find that the CXS is just the thing for working in tight spaces like cabinets with face frames.  The right angle attachment makes installing drawer glides a piece of cake.  Putting slight pressure on the trigger also turns on the light without starting the motor, making work inside cabinets that much easier.  As a comparison, try installing drawer glides using the CXS on one side and the C12 on the other, with right angle attachments on both.  The decision will be made before you complete one set.  I still continue to use my C12 regularly and love it, but there are just some times that the CXS is the best tool for the job. 

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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2012, 10:51 AM »

 Cool I bought my CXS right after the old yellow drill batteries died. I was reluctant because of the price, but had an immediate need for the right angle attachment, so I pulled the trigger.  Shortly thereafter, I ordered the larger chuck. It's worth every nickel, light, comfortable, and powerful enough for almost everything I do.
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« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2012, 11:26 AM »

Very happy with mine so far.  Is it safe to say that users being happy with their CXS is "common"?  Tongue Out
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« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2012, 11:53 AM »

The surprise for me is the angle unit. Really love it. I had to dissasemble lots of IKEA furniture, having to switch between bits and the angle unit. Thats where the light, small CXS shines for me and where the centrotec systems also shines.

Anyways, just play around with it and you will see why people love it. Its a joy to use.
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« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2012, 02:59 PM »

Very happy with mine so far.  Is it safe to say that users being happy with their CXS is "common"?  Tongue Out


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« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2012, 04:34 PM »

....I can't really bring myself to do the whole 30 day thing, so I'd feel better not using if I do decide to send it back.   

Vinny, I know Festool honestly wants you to try the the tools out if you're unsure.  Really, don't feel uneasy about retuning a tool on the 30 day return policy.   


Very happy with mine so far.  Is it safe to say that users being happy with their CXS is "common"?  Tongue Out

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« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2012, 10:48 PM »

For furniture, I use my CSX first.  I also have a T15+3.  I use both when pre-drilling to drive screws -- The T15 to drill the hole, the CSX to drive the screw.
I am very impressed with the power, convenience and versatility of the CSX.  Make sure you get the kit with the right angle fixture, etc.
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« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2012, 11:20 PM »

I have the CXS. And an old C12, a Makita impact driver, a 3/8" high speed drill for Kreg screws, a Hilti drywall screw driver,  a 1/2" heavy duty drill, a mud mixer, and an SDS roto hammer.  And a drill press.  Each has its place.  Most of the time I reach for my CXS for drilling and smaller screws, and the Makita to drive bigger screws.  But the CXS is my go to drill.  I reach for the others after trying the CXS first.  The CXS is my favorite Festool.

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« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2012, 12:50 AM »

As a non-pro, I needed one drill that handle all that I could throw at it.  I purchased the CSX in advance of building an outdoor bbq table using Philippine mahogany.  I used kreg pocket screws for the frame construction (2.5" and 1.5" pockets / screws) and I found that the CSX would struggle to drill the holes and even have a hard time driving some of the screws.  I was also draining the battery every 20 mins or so.  I really wanted the CSX to work because it really is a thing of beauty.



The dealbreaker ended up being that the chuck would not hold my 3/8" and larger bits.  I could deal with the relative weakness of the drill for boring out holes in hardwood (using the slow speed was necessary in most cases), but not being able to use a bunch of my bits was too much.  Half way through the project, I returned the CSX and purchased the C15 with the right angle and eccentric attachments. 

 

The C15 just flies through the mahogany but it is much larger / heavier than the CSX.  My next Festool purchases will include the router and domino before considering the CSX again.

My $0.02 anyway.
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« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2012, 07:31 AM »

The cxs wont do everything but it's a beauty for most things. I always said it's a good combo with one of the bigger drills. As your one and only, no it wont cut it.
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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2012, 08:08 AM »

I have had the ancient CD 12 for many moons.  also several corded drills of various sizes up to a 1/2" HoleHawg with right angle head.  The CDX I have had for only a few months and it is my GO-TO-Drill.  I could live without some of the other drills, but not the CD 12 or especially, the CDX.
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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2012, 10:25 AM »

As a non-pro, I needed one drill that handle all that I could throw at it.  I purchased the CSX in advance of building an outdoor bbq table using Philippine mahogany.  I used kreg pocket screws for the frame construction (2.5" and 1.5" pockets / screws) and I found that the CSX would struggle to drill the holes and even have a hard time driving some of the screws.  I was also draining the battery every 20 mins or so.  I really wanted the CSX to work because it really is a thing of beauty.



The dealbreaker ended up being that the chuck would not hold my 3/8" and larger bits.  I could deal with the relative weakness of the drill for boring out holes in hardwood (using the slow speed was necessary in most cases), but not being able to use a bunch of my bits was too much.  Half way through the project, I returned the CSX and purchased the C15 with the right angle and eccentric attachments. 

 

The C15 just flies through the mahogany but it is much larger / heavier than the CSX.  My next Festool purchases will include the router and domino before considering the CSX again.

My $0.02 anyway.

That's a really nice table for the Big Green Egg is it your own design ? Also your expectations were a little too high for the CXS.
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« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2012, 10:45 AM »

I reluctantly got the old C12 with all the chucks as part of a package Festool deal (a woodworker passed away, I bought all the Festool gear.)  I felt it was too expensive for what it was and found the Centrotec bits annoying.  I already had the full Makita LXT kit, plus the pair of Makita 10.8v drivers.  Once I had the C12, I forced myself to use it.  I quickly learned to like it, but didn't care for the weight.  I found a buyer for my LXT gear and got a CXS.  The ergonomics are superior to anything else I've used... and that's it's major selling point.  I do wish I had an impact driver though, for the few big screws / easily stripped phillips heads I occasionally have to deal with.  The worst part about the CXS is that it pushed me to drop close to $400 on that darn Centrotec installer kit.  I'm happy with the end result, but never planned on dropping $1k on drills and accessories.
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« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2012, 11:35 AM »

Since you already have the T15, I would recommend the CXS - as others have said, it will end up getting used MOST of the time. The ergonomics are outstanding. I did try one out but since I wanted one drill I could use for everything, I found it a little lacking in power/torque for heavy jobs plus the the lack of a full size chuck was an issue so I went with the C15 instead. You don't have that problem as you already have the T15. Based on my testing, I think the CXS would be an excellent choice for MOST driling/driving requirements and you will probably end up using it 90% of the time. I know I would if I had kept it.

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« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2012, 11:59 AM »


That's a really nice table for the Big Green Egg is it your own design ? Also your expectations were a little too high for the CXS.



When making the purchase decision, I discussed my needs with the dealer and he suggested trying the CSX and if it didn't fully meet my needs - then I could always return/exchange it within the 30 day period.  I think that is one of the best "test drive" option out there.  I had suspected the CSX wouldn't cut it, but due to the form factor/weight/price - I wanted to give it a go.

For the table, I adapted an existing design from here (link).  In hindsight, the only change I would have made was to used 5/4 material in the horizontal framing.  I though it was great that the original designer used SketchUp and that helped me with the overall vision. 

Here's a shot post assembly and after two coats of Teak oil.

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« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2012, 12:37 PM »

Thanks for all of your opinions.  I received it this morning, and fooled around with it for a few minutes.  I'm pretty sure the Kool-aid has gotten me.     

Vinny, I know Festool honestly wants you to try the the tools out if you're unsure.  Really, don't feel uneasy about retuning a tool on the 30 day return policy.   

Very happy with mine so far.  Is it safe to say that users being happy with their CXS is "common"?  Tongue Out


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This has eased my qualms a bit. 

Apparently they are shipping with a new accessory   Poke
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« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2012, 06:00 PM »

I'm on set right now and the cxs is on my hip. 15 hour days, lots of crew in a tight set, cxs allows me to do my job quickly comfortably and quietly. Light it's a God send, and chuck agreeableness allow me to do stuff effortlessly that would otherwise be a huge PITA
..wouldn't be without it. Bringing my festool gear on set also guarantees me a larger weekly kit rental. So just having them around makes me money even if they just sit in the box.
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