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Guys, My Dewalt 682 Biscuit Loiner crapped out...The plastic trigger is broke... Do I just use my Domino for all tasks or buy a new B-Joiner?
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2012, 05:19 PM » |
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Is it a type 1, type 3, or type 4? Just order a new switch. Type 1 and type 3 switch part number is 5140110-00. Type 4 switch part number is N058845. Won't cost more than $17 + shipping. Should be an easy fix....
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2012, 05:27 PM » |
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Thanks Peter for the info . Frank
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2012, 05:32 PM » |
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Happy to help - there's a service center in Latham that can get you back up real quick as well.
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2012, 05:38 PM » |
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Peter You the man  Thanks, Frank
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2012, 05:56 PM » |
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2012, 06:32 PM » |
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My Dewalt 682 Biscuit Loiner crapped out...The plastic trigger is broke... Do I just use my Domino for all tasks or buy a new B-Joiner? No one has said it, but I've been known for having a big mouth, so I'll be the first to step up. WHY are you even using a biscuit joiner if you have a Domino? I have yet to find *one* task that my biscuit joiner could do that my Domino can't do better, faster and more accurately. After two years of just sitting on the shelf collecting dust, I sold my biscuit joiner and a box of 2000 biscuits and used the $50 to buy a case of beer. It was worth it. Just putting it out there. 
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2012, 07:58 PM » |
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Hope it was German beer....I think we can all agree that Festool is in a different class than Dewalt, but it's worth it to get a $20 part (price must have went up in the past few hours) I fix his dewalt whether he decides to keep it or not.
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2012, 08:02 PM » |
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Think of it like a mortician making a corpse look respectable for burial 
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2012, 08:05 PM » |
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Lol well put
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2012, 08:11 PM » |
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Think of it like a mortician making a corpse look respectable for burial  Take that analogy one step further. Forget the burial and choose cremation. 
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2012, 08:12 PM » |
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My main use now for the biscuit joiner is making clean slots for attaching table tops to aprons using clips and for thin stock joining.
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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2012, 08:13 PM » |
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Do you use Lamello biscuits?
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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2012, 08:14 PM » |
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A biscuit joiner still does have a function. I have both and although I admit that the biscuit joiner does not get used often, I would not throw it away and if it were to break I would repair.
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The tools in my truck were talking the other day. The Dewalts, PC's, Boschs, Makitas were not happy. They also were in the minority. Their complaint: They felt unused and unappreciated since the Festools moved in. I guess the truth hurts.
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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2012, 08:21 PM » |
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A biscuit joiner still does have a function. I have both and although I admit that the biscuit joiner does not get used often, I would not throw it away and if it were to break I would repair.
Peter
What about a double shallow plunge and a sideways Domino 
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« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2012, 08:24 PM » |
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A biscuit joiner still does have a function. I have both and although I admit that the biscuit joiner does not get used often, I would not throw it away and if it were to break I would repair. Hmmmm? Beer or biscuit joiner? Biscuit joiner or beer? Sorry, but BEER wins out every time. 
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« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2012, 09:28 PM » |
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I would get the trigger fixed and save my Domino joiner for the more important work and use your DeWalt for those jobs more appropriate to a biscuit joiner since all machines will wear with time.
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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2012, 02:32 PM » |
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Peter, Ordered the trigger assembly today..Thanks for the info. I have never used the Lamello brand only Dewalt and PC brand.
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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2012, 02:37 PM » |
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Lamello makes great biscuits. And you obviously don't need a Lamello biscuit joiner to use them obviously. They make some real specialized ones for assembly, hinges, etc. Two of my favorites are the K20's and the Duplex.
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« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2012, 02:51 PM » |
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Some of my best friends own PC and DW biscuit joiners. Many of those also own Domino joiners.
I do not remember the year I bought my oldest Lamello biscuit joiner, but I am sure it was before there were the less expensive knock-offs. Even after I used a Domino in Europe before they are available in the USA I did not stop using my Lemello.
Then my original Domino was delivered, the one with the pins. It was like my world improved. Eventually I was using my Domino so often I bought a second one, by then with the paddles. As far as I know the last of my Lamello joiners still functions, but before I bought the second Domino I had run out of biscuits. Instead of buying more, I put the Lamello in its case on a shelf. It was packed and moved to my new shop in 2010 without being removed from its case.
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« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2012, 02:58 PM » |
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My main use now for the biscuit joiner is making clean slots for attaching table tops to aprons using clips
I have done that too and it works great.
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I sold my Porter Cable biscuit joiner last month - put the money in the Domino XL purchase fund. Didn't fill the fund very much as compared to the price of the XL! Don't miss it a bit.
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« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2012, 07:17 PM » |
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iv never even seen my biscuit joiner since the domino came . never had the need to look for it.
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I think it is much easier to let a $150 machine (biscuit joiner) sit on the shelf than it is to let an $800 machine (domino joiner).
I have a domino and an ELU biscuit machine that I would use for some projects over dominos. I like to have options for assembly methods.
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I have the Domino + the XL but still took my Elu biscuit jointer out the other day. Sometimes the thin longer biscuit is better for aligning thin panels. Like they say, if the only tool you have is a hammer then everything else looks like a nail !
Carrolladams, out of curiosity which domino do you prefer ? Pins or paddles ? I have pins & really glad about it. Don't want to start another debate about it though !
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If its made of wood, i can make it smaller. Shirt size medium p.s- ive started reading these too
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Carrolladams, out of curiosity which domino do you prefer ? Pins or paddles ? I have pins & really glad about it. Don't want to start another debate about it though !
Before the Domino 500 was available in the USA I had used them several times during visits to Europe. Of course those all had the pins, as did my original Domino 500. I do not recall participating in any of the Festool on-line groups before buying my second Domino 500 a year or so later. So I had not read about the pins vs paddles debate. However, my dealer did tell me that Festool had made a design change, so all the Domino 500 he had in stock were the then new kind with paddles. Since I had hardly ever used the pins to register from the edge of a part, and never from mortise to mortise, I did not feel the design change would bother me. During the years since I am productive with both machines. In my shop my frame/door maker uses the Domino more than the rest of us. He uses his personal Domino 500, which he had pre-ordered so it has pins. He has tried mine and others with the paddles, but really prefers the pin version. During several Festool classes when we have used the Domino all have had paddles. My suggestion to those buying their first Domino is to not go to special effort to find a used pins Domino. Of course if you own a pins Domino and love it, then you might want to find another as a spare.
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« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2012, 05:15 PM » |
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My Dewalt 682 Biscuit Loiner crapped out...The plastic trigger is broke... Do I just use my Domino for all tasks or buy a new B-Joiner? No one has said it, but I've been known for having a big mouth, so I'll be the first to step up. WHY are you even using a biscuit joiner if you have a Domino? I have yet to find *one* task that my biscuit joiner could do that my Domino can't do better, faster and more accurately. After two years of just sitting on the shelf collecting dust, I sold my biscuit joiner and a box of 2000 biscuits and used the $50 to buy a case of beer. It was worth it. Just putting it out there.  Well, for one thing, the Domino can't be used with a lot of casings to secure the miter joints the way my Lamello Top can. The Dominos are too thick.
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Well, for one thing, the Domino can't be used with a lot of casings to secure the miter joints the way my Lamello Top can. The Dominos are too thick. Hmmm, I think I read that the Lamello can use some specially designed smaller biscuits than your average biscuit joiner, but I'm having a hard time believing they're all that much thinner than the Domino 4mm tenons.
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« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2012, 02:48 PM » |
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Well, for one thing, the Domino can't be used with a lot of casings to secure the miter joints the way my Lamello Top can. The Dominos are too thick. Hmmm, I think I read that the Lamello can use some specially designed smaller biscuits than your average biscuit joiner, but I'm having a hard time believing they're all that much thinner than the Domino 4mm tenons. I checked. The Lamellos are in fact 4 mm thick. In any event, most casings we deal with are thinner at the inside profile, thicker toward the outside. I find the fact that the Lamello cuts a segmental arch in the work to be the way to go in that case, rather than dealing with an oscillating router bit cutting to the same depth throughout. I think most trim carpenters would agree that this is a very good use for the biscuit joiner. I have been using these things on my jobs since the mid seventies, and rarely if ever do we have a problem with the miters opening up. Anyway, to each his own.
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« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2012, 03:16 PM » |
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This is the first thing that came into the memory. I used to use a DeWalt
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