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Offline newtothis

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ETS 125 EQ to Refinish Kid's Bedroom Set?
« on: April 17, 2017, 12:37 PM »
My wife wants new bedroom furniture for my son. Now that he's a little older, the white furniture he currently has is a little dinged up and it makes sense to replace it with something that will hide a little more of the abuse that a 4 year old will be putting it through.

Rather than spring for all new furniture, I thought it would be easy (read: cheap) enough to sand the existing furniture and re-paint. I currently own the ETS 125 EQ, and was hoping that with the right combination of abrasive line and grit I would be able to get it done.

My immediate question is, can I even do this with the 125? I've done some research and it seems that most people attempting this kind of job do paint removal with something like the RO90 and then all the finish and in-between sanding with the 125. I understand that it might take me longer, but since this is a hobby and not a paying job, I'm ok with it taking a little longer for this one off project.

Assuming it is possible with the 125, what abrasives/grit will get it done? Most of the recommendations I had come across involved some combination of cristal and brilliant, but those no longer exist and it looks like the choices are now some progression of granat or saphir p80 and then granat. Any recommendations?

The current paint job is what you would see on nice painted furniture/cabinets, I'm guessing some kind of water-based pigmented laquer with a clear coat on top.

I plan on re-coating the furniture using my HVLP system and a primer (hsf5000) then tinted laquer (em6500) and maybe a urethane final coat (em9300) from target coatings.

Since the primer will be white and the furniture is already white, maybe I'm overthinking this and don't need to be so aggressive as to sand with 80, but instead just rough up the existing finish with something like 120/150 to let the primer have something to stick to.

I'm open to all suggestions since there are plenty of people on the forum with better ideas and more experience than I have with this type of thing.

Thanks

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Offline SRSemenza

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Re: ETS 125 EQ to Refinish Kid's Bedroom Set?
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2017, 03:43 PM »
Hi,

  Welcome to the forum!  [smile]

      First I think the ETS125 will do the job since you don't really need to fully strip the paint.  If you feel the need to remove all the paint then I think the ETS125 is going to take a reeaallly long time.  And in that case I suggest the RO90  due to it also having the delta head.

      I think I would just sand it with Granat, probably one pass with something in the 180 - 240 grit range.

Seth

Offline Alex

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Re: ETS 125 EQ to Refinish Kid's Bedroom Set?
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2017, 04:05 PM »
The ETS 125 will do this just fine. No need to remove all paint, just sand it flat. I'd start with granat 80, then 180 and finish with 320. Some waterbased paints are very soft though, in that case it's better to start with 120 instead of 80.

Offline newtothis

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Re: ETS 125 EQ to Refinish Kid's Bedroom Set?
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2017, 09:09 PM »
this is all very helpful, thanks -- i'm sure i'll find an excuse to get myself the RO at some point, but it seems like it would be overkill for this particular job

I'll try to update with how it ended up going once I get around to finishing this

thanks again

Offline shdesign3

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Re: ETS 125 EQ to Refinish Kid's Bedroom Set?
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2017, 10:07 PM »
I like to start at 150 grit and work up to 320 grit. For the between coats, I use 400 grit.


Offline TheSergeant

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Re: ETS 125 EQ to Refinish Kid's Bedroom Set?
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2017, 10:08 PM »
My wife and I literally did this today.  I have a Rotex 125, an ETS 150/3 and a pair of Pro LTDs.  We threw 220g paper on our Pro LTDS and gave everything a sanding.  Not down to bare wood, just enough to scuff the surface and allow for proper paint adhesion.  Wiped everything down with mineral spirits and then threw some paint in our Fuji HVLP and painted.  No need to sand to bare wood, that's way too much work.  Pro LTD will make quick work of this, go for it!
« Last Edit: April 20, 2017, 02:49 PM by TheSergeant »

Offline Holmz

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Re: ETS 125 EQ to Refinish Kid's Bedroom Set?
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2017, 07:05 AM »
What is it exactly?
Wood or some type of particle board?

And what type of paint? Glossy, flat? lead?

You should be able to blow through the stuff pretty well.
Some Festool or Mirka hand blocks with the vacuum hose are cheap enough from Amazon, and they work well for inside corners.

Mirka:
http://www.woodessence.com/Mirka-Abranet-Hand-Sanding-Blocks-P123.aspx
https://smile.amazon.com/Mirka-91500-4-Inch-2-Inch-Abranet/dp/B001BKT5DQ?_encoding=UTF8&%2AVersion%2A=1&%2Aentries%2A=0&pldnStlRst=1&ref_=smi_ge_strs_go

Festool:
https://smile.amazon.com/Festool-496962-130mm-Sanding-Block/dp/B0058HW8C8/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1492599747&sr=1-1&keywords=festool+sanding+block

You would need a vacuum and hose with either, unless you are not using one and working outside.
Once you wipe it down, then the glossy areas that need another kiss of paper stand out using a strong light.
Is the youngén going to select the paint and paint scheme?
That could be a fun family project...