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Offline bkharman

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Festool Drill Stand
« on: December 05, 2013, 09:38 PM »
Does anyone in the UK have this puppy?  Is it halfway decent?  I am headed back to the UK (Basingstoke, yay) next week for a few days and was thinking of picking up something small but useful.

http://www.festool.com/EN/Products/Accessories/Pages/Detail.aspx?pid=768768&name=Drill-stand-for-carpentry-GD-320

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Offline Alex

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2013, 03:00 AM »
Does anyone in the UK have this puppy?  Is it halfway decent?  I am headed back to the UK (Basingstoke, yay) next week for a few days and was thinking of picking up something small but useful.

Never used one for real, but saw and fondled them when they were still in the store under the Protool name. They're built like a rock, very sturdy. But there's nothing small about them. They are very big. A lot bigger than most of these stands you're used to from other brands. These are meant to drill holes in large construction beams.

Offline jonny round boy

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2013, 03:05 AM »
Does anyone in the UK have this puppy?  Is it halfway decent?  I am headed back to the UK (Basingstoke, yay) next week for a few days and was thinking of picking up something small but useful.

http://www.festool.com/EN/Products/Accessories/Pages/Detail.aspx?pid=768768&name=Drill-stand-for-carpentry-GD-320



I doubt you'll find a Festool dealer who has one of these in stock anywhere in the UK. They could get them, but it would need to be specially ordered beforehand.
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Offline bkharman

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2013, 08:48 AM »

I doubt you'll find a Festool dealer who has one of these in stock anywhere in the UK. They could get them, but it would need to be specially ordered beforehand.

I figured as much... I am not sure I have enough time this trip to get ahead of the ordering curve.  Thanks for looking out!

I didn't think that it would be so tall through, guess I should have checked the dimensions.

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Offline GreenGA

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2013, 10:35 AM »
I wonder if something like this is available here in NA...
Never use a 2x4, when a 2x6 will do just as well.

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Offline Svar

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2013, 11:23 AM »
Does anyone in the UK have this puppy?  Is it halfway decent?  I am headed back to the UK (Basingstoke, yay) next week for a few days and was thinking of picking up something small but useful.

http://www.festool.com/EN/Products/Accessories/Pages/Detail.aspx?pid=768768&name=Drill-stand-for-carpentry-GD-320



There is a short video of it when it was still Protool:  http://www.timberwolftools.com/tools/protool/P-GDP.html

And yes, it is available in NA.

Offline GreenGA

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2013, 11:55 AM »
WOW!  I just looked at the pricing on these things. [eek]
Never use a 2x4, when a 2x6 will do just as well.

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Offline bkharman

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2013, 11:59 AM »
WOW!  I just looked at the pricing on these things. [eek]

Totally agree!  I would just spend a bit more towards a DP instead. Looks nice, but about a foot taller than I effectively need.

"Dear Festool, please make a smaller version of this to be used with the CXS and others and price it under a hundred bucks.

Cheers,

Bryan"
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Offline GreenGA

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2013, 12:32 PM »
+1

"Dear Festool, please make a smaller version of this to be used with the CXS and others and price it under a hundred bucks.

Cheers,

Bryan"
Never use a 2x4, when a 2x6 will do just as well.

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Offline Kev

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2013, 04:30 PM »
I'd like the 320A. The 460A is available locally ...

http://www.idealtools.com.au/festool-sanding-discs-stf-d150-16-p50-ru-50-by-festool-14

... maybe [unsure]

Offline land_kel

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2013, 06:48 PM »
Is this one junk?

Google "General Tool 36/37"
Lots of stuff

Offline newinwood

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2013, 07:37 PM »
I have this one - General Tool 36/37 and I think it is a junk. Very clumsy.
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Offline epicxt

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2013, 10:15 PM »
Is this one junk?

Google "General Tool 36/37"
I agree with the junk assessment. I've got one and it's very sloppy. I ended up having more luck drilling angled holes by eyeball than using this.
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Offline Mark Enomoto

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2013, 01:20 AM »
Yeah complete rubbish. I had an old one that was at least cast aluminum but the new ones are plastic. Still think there's a great opportunity for Festool to make a crill press accurate guide for their line of tools...

Offline RL

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2013, 05:42 AM »
Is this one junk?

Google "General Tool 36/37"
I agree with the junk assessment. I've got one and it's very sloppy. I ended up having more luck drilling angled holes by eyeball than using this.

+1. Garbage or worse. Pay the shipping and you can have mine for free. The five years of dust it comes with are free as well.

Offline MahalaHomecraft

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2013, 11:41 AM »
So does anybody know of a halfway decent one that's somewhat affordable?  I have a "portable shop" with no room for a drill press so something like this would be ideal for me, but I'll never spend that much.
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Offline bkharman

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2013, 12:30 PM »
So does anybody know of a halfway decent one that's somewhat affordable?  I have a "portable shop" with no room for a drill press so something like this would be ideal for me, but I'll never spend that much.

This one from Garrett Wade looked promising.  I tried to do a little more research on it, but didn't find much.  Anyone have one?  or can speak to it?

http://www.garrettwade.com/portable-drill-guide-jig/p/91G01.05/

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Offline Tim Raleigh

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2013, 12:58 PM »

This one from Garrett Wade looked promising.  I tried to do a little more research on it, but didn't find much.  Anyone have one?  or can speak to it?

http://www.garrettwade.com/portable-drill-guide-jig/p/91G01.05/


This is essentially the same as the General Tool 36/37 maybe a bit better but same mechanisim. I don't have the Garrettwade version but have the General version and it does what it's supposed to do. Yes there is a little play in the shafts and it's not fun to use.  I changed the chuck and attach a base to it to keep it steady as the stock base doesn't offer much support.
You might want to take a look at the Wolfcraft/Rockler version which has some nicer features.
If you want more accuracy you really need to spend more money on a bench top or floor press or a Wabeco or Duss stand like Guido Henn uses.
Tim

Offline epicxt

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2013, 05:16 PM »
So does anybody know of a halfway decent one that's somewhat affordable?  I have a "portable shop" with no room for a drill press so something like this would be ideal for me, but I'll never spend that much.
I'm in the same position as you. Living aboard a sailboat pretty much means all the work I do is on-site and storage unit space is shared with tools and toys (11-12 bicycles and a lot of climbing and skiing gear).
The only thing I've found that meets the Festool-quality standard that's available in NA is Mafell's drill stand. Unfortunately, the price is more than I can swallow until I absolutely need it.
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Offline bkharman

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2013, 05:26 PM »
I'm in the same position as you. Living aboard a sailboat pretty much means all the work I do is on-site and storage unit space is shared with tools and toys (11-12 bicycles and a lot of climbing and skiing gear).
The only thing I've found that meets the Festool-quality standard that's available in NA is Mafell's drill stand. Unfortunately, the price is more than I can swallow until I absolutely need it.

So I think there might be some room for one of our lovely 3rd party engineer folks here.  Just this week, I bought the Precision Parallel Guides from Precision Dogs and I have to tell you, the setup is very nice, inexpensive and well made.  I am going to do some stuff with it this weekend and write it up.  Perhaps other vendors on this site could take note on this drill stand thread.  One of them may just have the know how on building one.  It is a few simple parts really.

I am by no means affiliated with any of the vendors.  I have bought quality stuff from Qwas, Precision Dogs, ParfDogs, RTS and others.  I find the time and quality put into these products is very nice and if one of them wants to take a stab, I am sure the market could accommodate.  for now, I will use my "drill blocks" to get 90 deg holes.
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Offline MahalaHomecraft

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2013, 09:16 PM »
this one actually looks pretty nice.  It holds the drill instead of chucking on, so you don't have that extra shaky chuck in between.  Seems like a good middle ground for about $75.

http://www.amazon.com/Wolfcraft-4522-Mobil-Drill-Stand/dp/B0001P19PO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1386900876&sr=8-1&keywords=tecmobil
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Offline NYC Tiny Shop

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2013, 09:25 PM »
Rockler's drill guide looks identcal for $52.99. Reviews are so-so.

http://www.rockler.com/portable-drill-guide

Offline MahalaHomecraft

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2013, 09:32 PM »
no that one's different… the rocker one chucks onto the drill so you have 2 chucks between the drill and the bit.  The wolf craft one i linked to hold the drill itself
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Offline MahalaHomecraft

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2013, 09:45 PM »
just checked some amazon reviews and debunked my own theory.  This one is just a different kind of crappy.
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Offline es07Eric

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2013, 10:57 AM »
+1 on the "GARBAGE"  It's horrible in any position other than 90, and even drilling at 90 it's got a bit of slop.  

I had hopes of using it to drill out a 3/4 gridded bench top for clamping and just gave up after all of the randomness!

Cheers,
Eric

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Offline bkharman

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2013, 11:03 AM »
but your pics... they make it look like a thing of beauty!!

maybe I should change the title of the thread to "Beauty of the beast"   [wink]
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Offline es07Eric

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2013, 11:18 AM »
but your pics... they make it look like a thing of beauty!!

maybe I should change the title of the thread to "Beauty of the beast"   [wink]

Thanks bkharman!  I wish it performed as well as it photographed! 

As someone else has done, I too added a base to add stability and additional clamping surface.  I also added a drill stop to match the one that it is supplied with (not pictured); it helps maintain it's course as it hits the stop and prevents further deviation.  I found that it helped substantially for drilling perpendicular tasks.
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Offline Tim Raleigh

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2013, 11:26 AM »
I had hopes of using it to drill out a 3/4 gridded bench top for clamping and just gave up after all of the randomness!

Ya that's way beyond the uses of this jig. Better to use your router for that "chore".
Those photo's do make that jig look pretty sexy though. [wink]

Tim

Offline Jalvis

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2013, 12:15 PM »
Mafell makes drill stands.  Most commonly used for timber framers.  Put your seat belts on…..its pricey. 

http://www.timberwolftools.com/tools/mafell/MAF-BST.html

Offline Tim Raleigh

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2013, 11:59 AM »
Mafell makes drill stands.  Most commonly used for timber framers.  Put your seat belts on…..its pricey. 

I really like those. I will have to take a closer look at them.
Jarvis, are you using one now?
Tim

Offline fp1337

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #30 on: December 16, 2013, 02:54 PM »
I have this one: http://www.amazon.com/Wolfcraft-4525404-Attachment-4-Inch-8-Inch/dp/B000JCIMEA/ref=pd_cp_hi_0

Not the best, but better than most others in this technology. I have yet to find something better to drill 3/4 inch forstner holes straight in the middle of a large piece of wood (does not fit drill press). I can even enlarge an existing forstner hole which is not possible with just a drill. But I'm still interested in more accurate means.

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Offline unclefester

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2014, 02:43 PM »
+1 on the "GARBAGE"  It's horrible in any position other than 90, and even drilling at 90 it's got a bit of slop.  

I had hopes of using it to drill out a 3/4 gridded bench top for clamping and just gave up after all of the randomness!

Cheers,
Eric

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Your photos are great.  Makes me want to get the drill press and I don't even want one or would ever use it [laughing]

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Offline mhmcgrath

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2017, 09:41 AM »
Hi,
I'm new to the forum and just converting my shop to Festool.  I've been woodworking for many years using
a variety of tools added over the years.  I will be posting a shop tour and documenting my Festool "tooling up." 
But for now I wanted to offer an idea on this thread of a drill stand.
I own a Swiss Rex vise system (heavy duty version of the old Zyliss vise, which I also own).  It may work for
the Festool drills, though I can't test since I don't own one (yet!).  If its the standard metric collar size at the
drill's working end, it should work.
Watch the video for an idea of how it functions.  The drill stuff is later in the video, but you may like the vise
anyway!  I have a drill which I clamp in mine as an abrasive tool.


Cheers,
Mike
BTW, how do you format these posts (I'm a rookie poster) on a Mac? 
My lines just keep running out to the right!

Offline mhmcgrath

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2017, 01:21 PM »
Here's a pic of the setup.



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Offline Holmz

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2017, 03:27 PM »
@mhmcgrath is that 43-mm diameter holed thing that is attached to the Zyliss vice something that comes with the newer Zyliss vices?
or
Was it something that was made and attached to the vice?



I just figured out the the US spelling is 'vise' and the rest of the world is 'vice'.

Offline mike_aa

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2017, 05:58 PM »
@mhmcgrath is that 43-mm diameter holed thing that is attached to the Zyliss vice something that comes with the newer Zyliss vices?
or
Was it something that was made and attached to the vice?



I just figured out the the US spelling is 'vise' and the rest of the world is 'vice'.

@Holmz  when I see the word "vice" is what comes to mind!   [eek]

Offline mhmcgrath

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2017, 08:56 PM »
@mhmcgrath is that 43-mm diameter holed thing that is attached to the Zyliss vice something that comes with the newer Zyliss vices?
or
Was it something that was made and attached to the vice?



I just figured out the the US spelling is 'vise' and the rest of the world is 'vice'.
It is integral to both the SwissRex (in my photo) and to the "modern" Zyliss vises - in the latter it is a separate, but rail compatible, fitting that comes with the vise. (several makes nowadays).  You can always check Ebay where these types of vises are up for sale.  They are in varying states of repair and completeness - I have purchased two over the years there that were BARGAINS.

Offline Z48LT1

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2017, 11:41 PM »
I need one of those SwissRex systems but Google is failing me.  Anyone know where I can get one in NA?

Best,

Gary

Offline Holmz

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2017, 06:17 AM »
@mike_aa I think of a CZ70, or a Sphinx, when I think of Miami Vice.

Offline mhmcgrath

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2017, 06:27 AM »
I need one of those SwissRex systems but Google is failing me.  Anyone know where I can get one in NA?

Best,

Gary
I can recommend Advanced Machinery, right here in little old Delaware!  https://advanced-machinery.myshopify.com/. Small company, specialized European made equipment, good to work with.  This is where I purchased my SwissRex.


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Offline PreferrablyWood

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2017, 03:13 PM »
I've been seriously considering getting a drill press but don't have a shop as yet, so if I could find a drill stand that at least sturdy enough It might be better for my mobile shop situation and work out fine for most of my uses; metal work, making precise jigs, Model making spindle sander etc.

I found this  at Dieter Schnid - Fine tools https://www.fine-tools.com/bohrstaender.html the last offering on the page  a DUSS Precision Drill Stand KB 43 solid as a rock and you can rotate the head so you can use it to drill in the middle of a piece, I had thought of making an offset bench so you could drill through to 240mm by flipping the stock around normally it comes with 120mm depth of travel which for most uses would be fine. Putting a heavy duty Festool drill in it would be great if you have a lot of centrotec bits.. Unfortunately the collar is 43mm so it wouldn't fit the beefier Festool drill  DR 20 FF https://www.toolstime.de/Festool-Bohrmaschine-DR-20-E-FF-Set-768933 just the smaller Quadrill https://www.toolstime.de/Festool-Bohrmaschinen-QUADRILL-DR-18-4-E-FFP-Set, which is no slouch and would be compatible with the PDC quick fix chucks I already own..
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Offline charley1968

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2017, 01:34 AM »
I'm on the fence for the Mafell BST 460 S. Haven't found much video footage so if anyone knows alink, feel free..
What i like about it is the ability to drill at a repeatable angle, i  can see some creative uses for that.
Just for today..

Offline neeleman

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2017, 05:28 AM »
Here's a video of the BST 320 which is similar to the 460 model.

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Offline charley1968

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2017, 01:28 PM »
Thank,@neeleman, that's about the only vid i found on google. Though, i believe it's the 46cm or 65 cm version; cuz afaik there's no 32cm version where one can rotate the pillar.
Just for today..

Offline TinyShop

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2018, 09:21 PM »
I just stumbled on the following Made in Germany and very reasonably priced line of drill stands:

https://www.wabeco-remscheid.de/catalog/category/view/s/drill-stands-and-accessories/id/104/

And now commences the oft repeated search for a retailer (maybe the manufacturer?) that is willing to send one across the pond....

Oh, but before I begin the search: all of the drill stands I've found that are marketed on the Atlantic's right coast are designed for drills that have a "43mm neck size". I'm away from my tools at the moment so I can't verify what "neck size" my ~decade-old US-made 1/2" Milwaukee drill has. But, if I had to guess, I'd wager it's not 43mm. I only assume this based on our tendency in the U.S.A. to not adopt standards that the rest of the world uses. Anyways, does anyone know how the neck sizes of our drills compare to the 43mm standard? IOW, are our drills compatible with Euro-drill stands?

The only English-language video review I can find:



Edit: FWIW there are several eBay sellers that are specifying shipping to the U.S.A. for a selection of these drill stands. That makes it easy.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2018, 11:57 AM »
I'm away from my tools at the moment so I can't verify what "neck size" my ~decade-old US-made 1/2" Milwaukee drill has. But, if I had to guess, I'd wager it's not 43mm.

I believe it's 46mm because I was also looking at using the Wabeco stand with a 1/2" Milwaukee for simple outdoor projects when you're away from the drill press.

Offline TinyShop

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #46 on: January 06, 2018, 03:01 PM »
I'm away from my tools at the moment so I can't verify what "neck size" my ~decade-old US-made 1/2" Milwaukee drill has. But, if I had to guess, I'd wager it's not 43mm.

I believe it's 46mm because I was also looking at using the Wabeco stand with a 1/2" Milwaukee for simple outdoor projects when you're away from the drill press.

OK, thanks so much for the info!

And, although you correctly assumed that my drill has a "neck" (I've noticed that many drills nowadays - at least those that don't have an allowance for the installation of a right angle stabilizing handle - go directly from motor housing to the spinning end of the drill, so no "neck" to speak of) I should have stated that my drill features a splined neck that is designed to accept the right-angle stabilizing handle that it originally came with. This uniform "neck" gives me some hope that I can make my corded drill work with a euro-drill stand. Now to contact Wabeco to see if they can assist in devising a workaround to my drill's non-standard neck diameter/design.

I should note that I don't have a shop (only a storage room) which is the primary reason behind my moving in the direction of a drill stand. I don't want (nor do I want or have the dedicated space for) a drill press. Plus, I'm addicted in all areas of my life to tools/devices/spaces/stuff that have multiple uses/functions - like a telephone that is also still camera, video camera, audio recorder, computer, etc., or a TS 75 which is a track saw but also the business-end of my CMS table saw (w/sliding table), the latter of which is also my router table, soon-to-be sanding table and soon-to-be jigsaw table, etc. For my various uses (and owing to the self-imposed limitations demanded by my oath to voluntary simplicity), my mantra is, "Why own a dedicated tool when I can own one that can accomplish multiple functions?" Therefore, a high quality drill stand (which I can also perhaps adapt to my Fein Mulitmaster, which, as its name implies, is also adept at accomplishing numerous tasks) is right up my alley. ;)       

Offline TinyShop

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #47 on: January 06, 2018, 03:28 PM »
I just discovered that what I assumed comprised the Fein "drill stand" is actually just an adapter designed to fit "popular" drill stands thus allowing the Fein MM (or, for that matter, the Vecturo) to work in conjunction with what are otherwise "standard" Euro-drill stands. This dovetails nicely with the recent discussion that appears elsewhere on this forum about the compatibility between the Vecturo and the Fein-branded drill stand adapter (and other Fein-branded accessories):

 http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/fein-table-top-and-drill-jigs-support-with-vecturo/msg533533/#msg533533

Should be an easy matter procuring the adapter to allow the Vecturo (or, in my case, the Fein MM) to be used in conjunction with any "standard" drill stand - like those produced by Wabeco - should I encounter the need.

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Offline TinyShop

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2018, 05:37 PM »
Just resurrecting this post to add that the manufacturer of the Festool version is in fact Famag. Check out the relevant pages of Famag's most recent catalog for more:

https://www.famag.com/FileContent/Catalogues/FAMAG_Katalog_BORMAX%202.0_GB.pdf#page=40

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2018, 06:07 PM »
@TinyShop “Festool version” of what?
Does Famag make a drill stand?
No mention of such in the index of that catalog.

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #50 on: April 15, 2018, 07:01 PM »
Also, just stumbled upon another option, this time from Japan. Behold, the very reasonably priced Kanzawa K-801-4, angle-adjustable portable drill stand:









Kanzawa makes other fixed (i.e. "90-degree") stands as well. Here's the relevant page on their website:

http://www.kanzawa.co.jp/products/attachment01.html#01

As of this writing there are numerous eBay sellers offering these stands to the N.A. public. (examples)

Obviously, a major advantage of the Kanzawa offerings (at least to those of us located in N.A.) - owing to the integrated/onboard Jacobs chuck - is the lack of a need for a drill that features a 43mm collet (the "Euro-standard"). Additionally, both the angle-adjustable version (which should fold into a flat package with the quick-release cam-locks or guide-rods themselves removed) and the fixed 90-degree versions (all of which which are easily disassembled) are ideal for storage/transport. Maybe they would fit nicely into a systainer?

Here's a fixed-angle K-801 in action (showing, among other things, its use as an oversized depth stop):



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Offline TinyShop

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2018, 07:11 PM »
@TinyShop “Festool version” of what?
Does Famag make a drill stand?
No mention of such in the index of that catalog.

My post assumed folks were aware of the Festool product that forms the entire basis for the OP. My apologies for any confusion. So, to clarify, Famag manufactures the Festool GD-320 Drill Stand (768768).

Regarding your other question, I already linked to the relevant page in the catalog (Pages 38-39). But, if you're looking solely at the Table of Contents, then you'll want to refer to "Drill Rig for Auger Bits".   
« Last Edit: April 15, 2018, 08:03 PM by TinyShop »

Offline yetihunter

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #52 on: April 15, 2018, 08:31 PM »
Two things on the original question: the Mafell one is the way to go. 
On either, you need to use really long (aka really expensive) augers. 
These are timberframing tools, and not really practical for woodworking/cabinetry/finish carpentry.






For the follow up comments, the smaller/cheaper designs (like the Wolfcraft) are generally very very very bad.   There are some higher quality products in Europe, but those are more of a makeshift drill press than something that you bring to the work.

The Kanazawa one is new too me, however.  I want to check this out.   It borrows the main themes of the cheapies, but it may possibly be legit where the concept of "actual functional tool" is concerned.
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #53 on: April 15, 2018, 08:35 PM »
Thanks for the extra links.
When I went to the Famag catalog it just started with the first page.

I was somewhat familiar with the thread but since it had moved beyound the Famag/Protool/Festool drill guide a long time ago I wasn’t sure of the subject of your addition.

The Kanzawa looks pretty robust. Much better than the General I have and haven’t used in decades.

Offline Cheese

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #54 on: April 15, 2018, 08:56 PM »
UJK from the UK also offers a drill stand that’s machined from aluminum billet, it’s constructed nicely.  TSO Products is the distributor in the US.

https://tsoproducts.com/workholding-accessories/ujk-technology-drill-guide/

Offline yetihunter

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #55 on: April 15, 2018, 09:07 PM »
UJK from the UK also offers a drill stand that’s machined from aluminum billet, it’s constructed nicely.  TSO Products is the distributor in the US.

https://tsoproducts.com/workholding-accessories/ujk-technology-drill-guide/

Oh dang, I forgot about seeing that one.  It works with Centrotec and ball detent chucks as a bonus prize!

Offline TinyShop

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #56 on: April 15, 2018, 10:07 PM »
UJK from the UK also offers a drill stand that’s machined from aluminum billet, it’s constructed nicely.  TSO Products is the distributor in the US.

https://tsoproducts.com/workholding-accessories/ujk-technology-drill-guide/

We have a winner! :) I just signed up to receive an alert when they become available.

Given it's esteemed provenance, I'm really surprised the forthcoming UJK model has no allowance for dust collection. Maybe the fine people at @TSO Products can nudge the UJK / @AxminsterTools folks in that direction? I'm envisioning a removable clear hood similar to the version that comes with the OF1400 (or equivalent). Even the poorly reviewed sweatshop-made Wolfcraft TecMobil drill stand comes with one:



Anyways, thanks for the heads up! :)

« Last Edit: April 15, 2018, 10:20 PM by TinyShop »

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #57 on: April 15, 2018, 10:47 PM »
I just saw that they took it off of the market (shortly after the first run).
Hopefully they still plan to relaunch.

Offline TinyShop

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #58 on: April 16, 2018, 01:33 AM »
I just saw that they took it off of the market (shortly after the first run).
Hopefully they still plan to relaunch.

Noooooooooo!

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #59 on: April 16, 2018, 07:59 AM »
YES, AXMINSTER is bringing the Drill Jig back in a refined version. As soon as we have an availability date we will notify everyone via our TSO INSIDER newsletter and all who signed up for notification on our product page.
here's the link for the sign up:
https://tsoproducts.com/workholding-accessories/ujk-technology-drill-guide/

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Offline Euclid

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #60 on: April 16, 2018, 11:55 AM »
I’ve been waiting for this too…

Regarding the delay, my understanding is that UJK (or Axminster - not entirely sure on how they are connected) was not satisfied with the quality of one component - the shaft I think it was (presumably that’s the bit with the Centrotec compatible hex).

For me, a plain hex drive would work just as well - if you are using a Festool drill (or other with interchangeable chucks) it’s just as easy to leave the Jacobs chuck attached to the stand and remove the drill (between drillings if necessary) than to disconnect via the chuck.

The ability to attach a Centrotec chuck to the bottom might be more useful; although the bit would need to engage in a hex hole in the shaft - and that might make it too much a Festool-focused product.

Does anyone have experience of this (more economical) version?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dakota-Precision-Drill-Guide/dp/B01F758N0G
a little similar to the Japanese item mentioned previously - though made largely, I believe, from injection-moulded plastics and with a smaller, 3/8” chuck. (And it’s cheaper than Amazon when bought direct from Rutlands’ own site - thought it might be worth a go.)

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #61 on: April 16, 2018, 12:03 PM »
YES, AXMINSTER is bringing the Drill Jig back in a refined version. As soon as we have an availability date we will notify everyone via our TSO INSIDER newsletter and all who signed up for notification on our product page.
here's the link for the sign up:
https://tsoproducts.com/workholding-accessories/ujk-technology-drill-guide/

Hans

Thanks Hans - that's good news! :)

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #62 on: April 16, 2018, 01:33 PM »
Hi all,

First post here. Just thought I should post that I've had the Kanzawa drill guide from Japan for a couple of years (just the regular one, not the one with the adjustable angle).  In terms of the materials used, it's well constructed and better than some of the inexpensive ones I have seen. The chuck seems to be good quality.  However, I've always been a little disappointed with the small amount of play between the guide rods and the slider.

This was my first drill guide so maybe my expectations were unrealistic to imagine that I could centre the bit above a marked point, clamp the drill stand, raise the drill then lower it and hit exactly that same point? There's a good few mm of play. It's still been useful in helping my alignment and I was able to improve things somewhat by using a strip of tape on each guide rod.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to the UJK one - it seems they have added some grub screws to allow the user to take out the play - if there is any.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2018, 01:37 PM by JamesUK »

Offline Cheese

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #63 on: April 16, 2018, 03:54 PM »
Anyway, I'm looking forward to the UJK one - it seems they have added some grub screws to allow the user to take out the play - if there is any.

Yup, 1 on the front of the yoke and 2 on each side of the yoke for each rod. They’re 5mm.

Offline Svar

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #64 on: April 16, 2018, 04:03 PM »
Anyway, I'm looking forward to the UJK one - it seems they have added some grub screws to allow the user to take out the play - if there is any.
Yup, 1 on the front of the yoke and 2 on each side of the yoke for each rod. They’re 5mm.
Not a good way to take out play. Grab screws will plow groves in the rods. Better use setup similar to split collar clamp. Or use brass grab screws.

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #65 on: April 16, 2018, 04:20 PM »
Not a good way to take out play. Grab screws will plow groves in the rods. Better use setup similar to split collar clamp. Or use brass grab screws.

The grub screws are actually nylon with steel lock nuts. Here’s a photo.

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #66 on: April 16, 2018, 04:35 PM »
Not a good way to take out play. Grab screws will plow groves in the rods. Better use setup similar to split collar clamp. Or use brass grab screws.
The grub screws are actually nylon with steel lock nuts. Here’s a photo.
OK, that will work. Are those original from UJK model stand?

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #67 on: April 16, 2018, 04:49 PM »
OK, that will work. Are those original from UJK model stand?

Yes they are Svar.

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #68 on: April 16, 2018, 07:32 PM »
YES, AXMINSTER is bringing the Drill Jig back in a refined version. As soon as we have an availability date we will notify everyone via our TSO INSIDER newsletter and all who signed up for notification on our product page.
here's the link for the sign up:
https://tsoproducts.com/workholding-accessories/ujk-technology-drill-guide/

Hans

hopefully the refined version will include a flat base,mine was not flat and rocked like a boat(sent it back),i recommend checking before putting these on sale.would really have liked to seen a quick on/off chuck preferably centrotec,perhaps there is an opportunity to manufacture a suitable accessory @TSO_Products

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #69 on: April 16, 2018, 09:53 PM »
@Euclid -  REPLY # 60:  Axminster Tool & Machinery is a company based in Axminster UK (where else) with considerable coverage via a string of well regarded brick-and-mortar stores throughout England. They sell a number of internationally known tool  brands as dealers, including TSO Products. Axminster earns kudos for excellent service from their international customers.
Axminster has also developed a growing line of its own products under its UJK Technology brand including  Peter Parfitt’s Parf Guide System, Super Parf Dog, Chamfer Tool, Long Super Parf Dog and those nifty Dog Rail Clips. All stocked in depth at TSO Products here in the USA.
@TinyShop – REPLY # 61: you and a host of other FOG readers have jumped on the UJK Drill Guide availability notification link we posted on this thread REPPLY # 59. We’re letting AXMINSTER know of the interest and the comments on this post.
@skinee – REPLY # 68: your comment about a “flat Base” is noted and will also be passed along to the UJK product  development team at AXMINSTER. We expect to see a refined product. From experience we know that always takes longer than one wishes.
All: we thank you for your continuing interest in this product and your patience while waiting for it.

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #70 on: April 17, 2018, 04:35 AM »
YES, AXMINSTER is bringing the Drill Jig back in a refined version. As soon as we have an availability date we will notify everyone via our TSO INSIDER newsletter and all who signed up for notification on our product page.
here's the link for the sign up:
https://tsoproducts.com/workholding-accessories/ujk-technology-drill-guide/
Add a dust hose holder (so this gets reasonable extraction without being in the way) and I might be interested.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2018, 04:38 AM by Gregor »

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #71 on: April 24, 2018, 06:34 AM »
Does anyone have experience of this (more economical) version?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dakota-Precision-Drill-Guide/dp/B01F758N0G
a little similar to the Japanese item mentioned previously - though made largely, I believe, from injection-moulded plastics and with a smaller, 3/8” chuck.

If I may be excused responding to my own post…

I hadn’t realised that the item I was asking about there was - by all appearances - the same as the Garret Wade item referred to and pictured further back in this thread.

I’ve now got one and… well, for the relatively little money it cost it is quite nicely made and well finished, but there is a disconcerting amount of slop between the ‘chuck carriage’ and the rails. The tolerances are not super-fine, but much of this seems to be down to the lack of rigidity in the rails themselves or their mountings.

The situation could be improved a lot by a brace at the top of the rails, This could be a horseshoe shaped brace (to clear the body of the drill), similar in concept to those used on the suspension forks of mountain bikes. I might have a look at making something like that (and make a larger-area base too as others have mentioned - a small sheet of aluminium or acrylic might do the trick).

Still awaiting the UJK device with interest though…

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Re: Festool Drill Stand
« Reply #72 on: April 24, 2018, 06:13 PM »
Reviews in English for the Wabeco drill stands are difficult to find. However, I just stumbled upon this one:



Here are the links to the English translations of the related blog posts that appear in the show notes:

The decision process that lead to choosing a drill stand (in place of a dedicated drill press) and building the DIY table: https://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://holzhandwerk.andreas-kalt.de/bohrtisch-wabeco-bohrstaender/&sl=auto&tl=en

User improvements to the Wabeco stand: https://translate.google.com/translate?prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http://holzhandwerk.andreas-kalt.de/verbesserungen-am-wabeco-bohrstaender/&sl=auto&tl=en

Links to the originals in German: here & here

And, finally, a photo depiction of what I see as the major advantage of a drill stand over a stationary drill press (in a Sortainer but I trust that you get the idea):





 
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