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FESTOOL DISCUSSIONS => Festool Tools & Accessories => Topic started by: Steven Owen on November 01, 2017, 12:18 AM

Title: Festool Edge Bander vs co-matic br500
Post by: Steven Owen on November 01, 2017, 12:18 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S09JM1U7za0

How do you feel the Festool Conturo Edge bander compares to other edge banders like the co-matic BR500?

The Festool seems more elegant and the design is more contemporary than many of the competing edge bander models.  Festool seems to be the only one using glue pucks rather than pellets.

The Festool Edge bander also seems be more seemless and can move with greater agility than it’s competitors.  They’re all a huge upgrade over an iron, a heat gun; and a whole lot of swearing when the band doesn’t stay in place.
Title: Re: Festool Edge Bander vs co-matic br500
Post by: Timtool on November 01, 2017, 04:40 AM
I have the conturo, but I'm surprised at how well designed the Le-Matic system is. The edge bander itself looks more archaic however, but it seems to do the job. One thing that strikes me though is how far it extends forward under the work piece, while the conturo practically doesn't. Lots of pieces would be too narrow to do freehanded with Le-Matic, looks like their table is indispensable for those. The band cut tool on the table set up is a great feature to streamline work.

However they seem to use the table to set up the trimmers, in reality you have to band two parallel sides of a panel, trim them, and only then is it possible to band the other two sides. You'd need a separate table in reality or do it by hand if you want to avoid switching tools in the table constantly.

The passive vacuum clamps look great, not sure how effective they are on veneer though. And I wonder how the glue pellets work, I suppose the machine has to melt the entire batch, which if comparable to stationary edge banders, could take 20 minutes or much more. And there would be a lengthy pause between refills, and is there a clean up required after each use?

The conturo is more fool proof, heats up quite rapidly and can be used or held at angles without spilling dangerously hot glue. It also tells you on screen how much you can do, and when done you turn it off and let it cool down, no maintenance or clean up.

So I'd say the conturo is the better machine, but Le-Matic has a much more complete and thought-through system built around theirs, since you can probably purchase those separately you could set up the perfect Frankenstein system by taking the best of both.
Title: Re: Festool Edge Bander vs co-matic br500
Post by: Tim Raleigh on November 01, 2017, 11:17 AM
I have not seen this system other than the videos. Not a big fan of Chinese products...I have enough of them.
Wurth also is selling a portable system, it's cheaper than the Festool one
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Title: Re: Festool Edge Bander vs co-matic br500
Post by: Steven Owen on November 01, 2017, 08:28 PM
I have the conturo, but I'm surprised at how well designed the Le-Matic system is. The edge bander itself looks more archaic however, but it seems to do the job. One thing that strikes me though is how far it extends forward under the work piece, while the conturo practically doesn't. Lots of pieces would be too narrow to do freehanded with Le-Matic, looks like their table is indispensable for those. The band cut tool on the table set up is a great feature to streamline work.

However they seem to use the table to set up the trimmers, in reality you have to band two parallel sides of a panel, trim them, and only then is it possible to band the other two sides. You'd need a separate table in reality or do it by hand if you want to avoid switching tools in the table constantly.

The passive vacuum clamps look great, not sure how effective they are on veneer though. And I wonder how the glue pellets work, I suppose the machine has to melt the entire batch, which if comparable to stationary edge banders, could take 20 minutes or much more. And there would be a lengthy pause between refills, and is there a clean up required after each use?

The conturo is more fool proof, heats up quite rapidly and can be used or held at angles without spilling dangerously hot glue. It also tells you on screen how much you can do, and when done you turn it off and let it cool down, no maintenance or clean up.

So I'd say the conturo is the better machine, but Le-Matic has a much more complete and thought-through system built around theirs, since you can probably purchase those separately you could set up the perfect Frankenstein system by taking the best of both.

The Festool Conturo appears to be the only true hand held in the group.  The other models seem to rely on being inside a table and lack the ergonomics required to use the Edge bander free hand. 

The sticker shock is probably the biggest disadvantage of the Festool Edge bander.
Title: Re: Festool Edge Bander vs co-matic br500
Post by: tjbnwi on November 01, 2017, 09:44 PM
Love my Conturo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0_ok_tjV1o

Tom
Title: Re: Festool Edge Bander vs co-matic br500
Post by: Peter Kelly on November 05, 2017, 09:03 AM
I have not seen this system other than the videos. Not a big fan of Chinese products...I have enough of them.
Wurth also is selling a portable system, it's cheaper than the Festool one
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Made in Brasil by Makiswa. I think they also make the hand-held ones that Adwood/Virutex/Felder re-sell.

http://maksiwa.com/produto/coladeira-de-borda-portatil-cbc-e-2
https://www.woodcraft.com/products/maksiwa-portable-edgebander
Title: Re: Festool Edge Bander vs co-matic br500
Post by: Tim Raleigh on November 08, 2017, 09:42 AM
Love my Conturo.

Same, PVC edging is so much better than iron on. Once dialed in works flawlessly even with the thinnest PVC.
Tim