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Offline Farming_Sawyer

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Festool in winter... Or time for a Sys-sled
« on: November 16, 2018, 09:39 PM »
Winter has hit Maine early. 4" of snow. I work on rural historic renovations and parking near the homes isn't always possible. What does everyone else do, as far as moving their gear in and out of projects every day?287766-0
CT 26E, RO125, sys-mft, sys-toolbox, a bunch of 30 year old tools I'm looking to replace.

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Offline grobkuschelig

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Re: Festool in winter... Or time for a Sys-sled
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2018, 02:31 AM »
Great pic. Fortunately, we do not have snow that often, so I can‘t really give any good advice. [emoji41]

Offline six-point socket II

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Re: Festool in winter... Or time for a Sys-sled
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2018, 06:15 AM »
Hi!

I love the season. :) Thanks for the pic!

I think if we had "real" snow over here for more than just a couple of days/year, I would get me something like an OTTER sled:

https://www.otteroutdoors.com/product-category/otter-sleds/

I'd probably have some anti skid mats in it for general use/purpose.

And then, if I had to transport Systainers on it daily/ very often, I'd invest in a SYS-CART Base or two to fix to the sled. https://produktprogramm.tanos.de/index.asp?idart=485&idcat=21

That is if I was pulling the sled. I don't think a "setup" like this (except for the sled) would survive being pulled by a snowmobile, except maybe over very plain/even streets/terrain.

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Oliver
Kind regards,
Oliver

Offline Farming_Sawyer

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Re: Festool in winter... Or time for a Sys-sled
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2018, 06:27 AM »
I had certainly thought about the sled... We use them all the time on the farm for hauling hay and feed to the livestock, and I use them in the woods to carry chainsaws, tools and lunch on felling days. But I didn't know about the sys-bases. That could work. Except of course....a sled full of systainers tobogganing down a hillside back towards the parking area, when a struggling tradesman slips in a foot of fresh snow.....
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Offline grobkuschelig

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Re: Festool in winter... Or time for a Sys-sled
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2018, 08:12 AM »
...so you just need to wait for the cordless Rotex to always be able to buff out the scratches and dings, when this happens. [emoji23]

Offline six-point socket II

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Re: Festool in winter... Or time for a Sys-sled
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2018, 08:30 AM »
I had certainly thought about the sled... We use them all the time on the farm for hauling hay and feed to the livestock, and I use them in the woods to carry chainsaws, tools and lunch on felling days. But I didn't know about the sys-bases. That could work. Except of course....a sled full of systainers tobogganing down a hillside back towards the parking area, when a struggling tradesman slips in a foot of fresh snow.....

Following you on IG now. :)

The sys-base is a good product. I'm using them to hold first-aid Systainers in various places. Please let us know if you give a "SYS-SLED" a try. :) :) :)

I plan on getting another one in spring to to build a sys-cart with a little larger air filled tires for better backyard/garden use.


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Oliver
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Oliver

Offline Peter_C

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Re: Festool in winter... Or time for a Sys-sled
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2018, 12:21 PM »
You seriously don't own a Sys-roll already? For moving stacks of Systainer's you need some type of dolly. A small folding Magna cart is a handy item to have for moving small appliances, stacks of Systainer's, bin's, etc, and stuff can be tied on with a bungee or strap. Home Depot has the Packout's on sale which work awesome for packing tools around and could function as a cart for about the same money as a Sys-roll.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-22-in-Packout-Modular-Tool-Box-Storage-System-233663/303038736

Acme has them on sale too and the rolling Packout is available separately on sale which means HD will price match.
https://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/milwaukee-packout?fetchFacets=true#facet:&facetLimit:&productBeginIndex:0&orderBy:5&pageView:grid&minPrice:&maxPrice:&pageSize:24&

A handle for your dust collector will make it easier to move, as you can tip it onto the larger wheels only.


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Re: Festool in winter... Or time for a Sys-sled
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2018, 01:21 PM »
I've thought about a handle for the CT. Haven't spent money on a Sys-roll yet as my work right now is in and out rotating between three and four jobs in a week until one or another is ready for  me to set up base. I've been using the CT to roll rolls around on-site. This new job and the fresh snow yesterday promted my post as I had to carry my tools & CT 500 feet thru the snow croon the parking area... Owners parked the dumpster in the parking spot closer to the entry. But, hey if they want to pay me to lug tools and materials from the far side of the house..... Just not liking setting my systainers and CT in the snow.....
CT 26E, RO125, sys-mft, sys-toolbox, a bunch of 30 year old tools I'm looking to replace.

Offline Shavings

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Re: Festool in winter... Or time for a Sys-sled
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2018, 01:29 PM »
How about work in Maine during the Spring/Summer/Fall and work in Florida in Winter?
I use to stay at a hotel in Door County Wisconsin that the Owner had open during the Summer and spent Winter in Arizona.
Just a thought.

Offline Peter_C

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Re: Festool in winter... Or time for a Sys-sled
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2018, 02:25 PM »
I've thought about a handle for the CT. Haven't spent money on a Sys-roll yet as my work right now is in and out rotating between three and four jobs in a week until one or another is ready for  me to set up base. I've been using the CT to roll rolls around on-site. This new job and the fresh snow yesterday promted my post as I had to carry my tools & CT 500 feet thru the snow croon the parking area... Owners parked the dumpster in the parking spot closer to the entry. But, hey if they want to pay me to lug tools and materials from the far side of the house..... Just not liking setting my systainers and CT in the snow.....
Turn on hazard lights and park in the middle of the street for a couple of minutes as you unload next to dumpster that is in the way.

Snow/water against a Systainer and a dust collector won't hurt anything...but going back to the Packout's they are IP65 rated, so a little rain won't bother the tools inside.

Why carry when you can roll more weight, in fewer trips.

Offline Farming_Sawyer

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Re: Festool in winter... Or time for a Sys-sled
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2018, 04:00 PM »
How about work in Maine during the Spring/Summer/Fall and work in Florida in Winter?
I use to stay at a hotel in Door County Wisconsin that the Owner had open during the Summer and spent Winter in Arizona.
Just a thought.

I love winter here, hard as it can be. I pick up work because of all the snowbirds that fly south for the winter. Besides, I have a farm and a sawmill business. When I can't make it to trade jobs I saw custom timbers for timberframes. I need to be here in winter to log the long timbers I need.
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Re: Festool in winter... Or time for a Sys-sled
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2018, 05:38 PM »
Perhaps I need to build myself an MFT-Ski.....
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Festool in winter... Or time for a Sys-sled
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2018, 05:53 PM »
Sounds like a good life you have!

How about the Rambler Wagon XL from L.L.Bean? Has fat tires and a steerable pull handle. The set version includes detachable skis.

https://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/77286?page=rambler-wagon-xl-winter-set&bc=29-515476&feat=515476-GN0&csp=f&attrValue_0=Red

Offline Peter_C

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Re: Festool in winter... Or time for a Sys-sled
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2018, 08:01 PM »
I love winter here, hard as it can be. I pick up work because of all the snowbirds that fly south for the winter. Besides, I have a farm and a sawmill business. When I can't make it to trade jobs I saw custom timbers for timberframes. I need to be here in winter to log the long timbers I need.
Are you a tree farmer of sorts? If so what trees do you grow? What mill do you own? Just curiosity questions. (We have a certified tree farm with ponderosa, doug fir, and western larch as our main crops. We only sell to big mills though, and hire out the logging and trucking operations.)

Skidding logs in the winter...must be fairly flat ground. Frozen ground actually helps in many ways, and roads don't get as torn up. We are done logging for the year. We'll start up again next year though if the markets are decent.

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Re: Festool in winter... Or time for a Sys-sled
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2018, 08:27 PM »
Sounds like a good life you have!

How about the Rambler Wagon XL from L.L.Bean? Has fat tires and a steerable pull handle. The set version includes detachable skis.

https://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/77286?page=rambler-wagon-xl-winter-set&bc=29-515476&feat=515476-GN0&csp=f&attrValue_0=Red

certainly priced like Festool...i could by a Sys-roll for what that wagon costs....
CT 26E, RO125, sys-mft, sys-toolbox, a bunch of 30 year old tools I'm looking to replace.

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Re: Festool in winter... Or time for a Sys-sled
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2018, 08:33 PM »
I love winter here, hard as it can be. I pick up work because of all the snowbirds that fly south for the winter. Besides, I have a farm and a sawmill business. When I can't make it to trade jobs I saw custom timbers for timberframes. I need to be here in winter to log the long timbers I need.
Are you a tree farmer of sorts? If so what trees do you grow? What mill do you own? Just curiosity questions. (We have a certified tree farm with ponderosa, doug fir, and western larch as our main crops. We only sell to big mills though, and hire out the logging and trucking operations.)

I run a small dairy and pig farm.  My wife makes cheese and we feed the whey to the pigs. While I am constantly trying to improve the forest, I am more a tree harvester than tree farmer. I usually only cut for my mil so I can get a better price... From myself. I'll be harvesting a lot of birch this winter to turn into flooring and cabinet parts next year. I've also got my eye on some cherry that needs to Come down.
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Offline HarveyWildes

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Re: Festool in winter... Or time for a Sys-sled
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2018, 09:07 PM »
Just got back from a retreat in the mountains west of Fort Collins at 9000 feet or so.  8" of snow at the top and just a dusting where I live (5250 feet).  I wasn't trying to get anything done with tools though.

Offline travisj

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Re: Festool in winter... Or time for a Sys-sled
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2018, 09:16 PM »
I have an Otter ice fishing shack that is mounted on the large Otter sled.  I added hyfax runners to the bottoms which helps, but I don’t pull it by hand unless it’s a last resort, strictly machines.  The large footprint of the sled creates too much drag and it tends to plow the snow with any kind of weight in it.  A lot of the “early ice” ice fisherman I know (where ice is too thin for machine travel) have built “Smitty Sleds” to haul their portables and equipment onto the lake.  Much easier to pull by hand.  They can also be built in a takedown fashion to be easier to transport/store.

https://www.google.com/search?q=smitty+sled&client=safari&hl=en-us&prmd=isvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjtk_jTrd_eAhXG6oMKHZweBuoQ_AUoAXoECAwQAQ&biw=414&bih=622

I’m not sure how serious an issue this is or how much of an effort you are willing to put into it, but personally I would build a “smitty sled” of sorts before I would use an Otter sled.


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Re: Festool in winter... Or time for a Sys-sled
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2018, 09:51 PM »
I agree, the otter-type sleds get unstable when loaded and tend to plow sideways and tip.  We're using a wornout otter, with slits in the bottom from ice and rocks on a pair of old cross-country skis, sort of like a smitty sled. Knocked it up one morning before chores so we could haul buckets of whey down the hill in minus weather thru deep snow....
CT 26E, RO125, sys-mft, sys-toolbox, a bunch of 30 year old tools I'm looking to replace.