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Offline Slider613

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Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« on: September 07, 2017, 02:41 PM »
I love my OF 1400, but for Freehand work I use my small Dewalt router because it has built in LED lighting.

Any good aftermarket lighting solutions for this Router?
TS 75 EQ, Router 1400 OF, Carvex PS420 EQB, Rotex 90 and 125, ETS 150/3, Domino DF 500 + Kit, CXS Drill set, T18 Drill Set, MFT/3, Rails 75" and 2x 55" with Connector and Case, Compact Cleaning Kit, Sys 4 TLsort/3, CT 48 with 27mm and 36mm anti static hose, Sys MFT-FX set.

Plus a whole stack of accessories

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Offline Peter Halle

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2017, 06:45 PM »
As my dog Magyver would probably recommend - duct tape and an led flashlight? [eek] or  [thumbs up]

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Offline RobBob

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2017, 06:57 PM »
@Rick Christopherson
Wonder if we could talk Rick into making something for us?

It says 12v.  If only this was battery operated:
1. Reloading Press LED Light

2. More Options

3. Sewing Machine LED light kits
« Last Edit: September 07, 2017, 07:47 PM by RobBob »

Offline BJM9818

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2017, 08:11 PM »
Following up with Peter's #1.

Inlinefabrication makes reloading press lights. I bet you could use one and run it along the router power cord so it's out of the way.

https://inlinefabrication.com/collections/lighting

Offline Slider613

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2017, 08:30 PM »
As my dog Magyver would probably recommend - duct tape and an led flashlight? [eek] or  [thumbs up]

Peter

Thanks, was looking for slightly more elegant solution
TS 75 EQ, Router 1400 OF, Carvex PS420 EQB, Rotex 90 and 125, ETS 150/3, Domino DF 500 + Kit, CXS Drill set, T18 Drill Set, MFT/3, Rails 75" and 2x 55" with Connector and Case, Compact Cleaning Kit, Sys 4 TLsort/3, CT 48 with 27mm and 36mm anti static hose, Sys MFT-FX set.

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2017, 08:43 PM »
As my dog Magyver would probably recommend - duct tape and an led flashlight? [eek] or  [thumbs up]

Peter

Thanks, was looking for slightly more elegant solution

Sorry, I was bad.  Even I have to try and interject a bit of poor humor every now and then.

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Offline Cheese

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2017, 08:59 PM »
« Last Edit: September 08, 2017, 09:31 AM by Cheese »

Offline Slider613

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2017, 09:00 PM »
As my dog Magyver would probably recommend - duct tape and an led flashlight? [eek] or  [thumbs up]

Peter

Thanks, was looking for slightly more elegant solution

Sorry, I was bad.  Even I have to try and interject a bit of poor humor every now and then.

Peter

No worries. I got the joke. Your sarcasm translated.
TS 75 EQ, Router 1400 OF, Carvex PS420 EQB, Rotex 90 and 125, ETS 150/3, Domino DF 500 + Kit, CXS Drill set, T18 Drill Set, MFT/3, Rails 75" and 2x 55" with Connector and Case, Compact Cleaning Kit, Sys 4 TLsort/3, CT 48 with 27mm and 36mm anti static hose, Sys MFT-FX set.

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Offline Slider613

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2017, 09:02 PM »
@Rick Christopherson
Wonder if we could talk Rick into making something for us?

It says 12v.  If only this was battery operated:
1. Reloading Press LED Light

2. More Options

3. Sewing Machine LED light kits

Those are getting pretty close to what would work, I think battery powered would be easier though. I already have a power cord and a hose. Don't want to add a third cable, if there are no better options I will likely get something like the ones you posted.
TS 75 EQ, Router 1400 OF, Carvex PS420 EQB, Rotex 90 and 125, ETS 150/3, Domino DF 500 + Kit, CXS Drill set, T18 Drill Set, MFT/3, Rails 75" and 2x 55" with Connector and Case, Compact Cleaning Kit, Sys 4 TLsort/3, CT 48 with 27mm and 36mm anti static hose, Sys MFT-FX set.

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Offline Bvps

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2017, 09:02 AM »
My solution with a Dremel LED light. Don‘t no where I bought this, but works well.


Offline ben_r_

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2017, 11:48 AM »
My solution with a Dremel LED light. Don‘t no where I bought this, but works well. (Attachment Link)

Pricey these days. Looks like its called the Dremel FL400. Nice solution though.
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Offline Slider613

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2017, 12:34 PM »
I like that Dremel light, does look a little pricey for a simple light. Also, would be nice if it used a more standard battery.
TS 75 EQ, Router 1400 OF, Carvex PS420 EQB, Rotex 90 and 125, ETS 150/3, Domino DF 500 + Kit, CXS Drill set, T18 Drill Set, MFT/3, Rails 75" and 2x 55" with Connector and Case, Compact Cleaning Kit, Sys 4 TLsort/3, CT 48 with 27mm and 36mm anti static hose, Sys MFT-FX set.

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Offline TheSergeant

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2017, 12:43 PM »
Perhaps a light ring designed for a microscope?   They come in a variety of sizes like this:

https://www.amazon.com/AmScope-LED-56S-Microscope-Light-Dimmer/dp/B005O2MAKW

You might have to tap into the power coming in on the female side of the plugit.   

Offline Cheese

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2017, 12:58 PM »
Pricey these days. Looks like its called the Dremel FL400. Nice solution though.

It's a real nice solution, and I agree...on Amazon for $116, it is pricey for what it is. Then I decided to look elsewhere, and found that the actual list price is only $46.  [jawdrop] [jawdrop]

It actually sells in the $28-$38 range. The vendor below is getting some in inventory and will be selling them for $23.50.

http://www.ledarealights.org/dremel-fl400-flex-light/

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2017, 01:30 PM »
This is one feature missing from the OF1400 and I was surprised there was no light.
I didn't even think about it because so many routers have had them for a few years
and I expected that Festool would have one or more LED lights on the tool.

The rub is when someone asks you how you like your Festool router I saw I do like
it but there is no light. I had a Craftsman commercial router with a light 30 years ago.
It was a battery operated and just hung on the side of the motor by a pair of screws
and ran off two AA batteries. That would be a great setup today with an LED light.

When the chips start flying do they really help much? I remember that old Craftsman
router threw up so much dust the light was near useless. But I think with the excellent
chip and dust collection that Festool has they would be usable.

I know there are other routers that do not have a light but they are half or less the
the price of a Festool.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2017, 01:47 PM »
This is one feature missing from the OF1400 and I was surprised there was no light.
I didn't even think about it because so many routers have had them for a few years
and I expected that Festool would have one or more LED lights on the tool.

Amen...I also had a Craftsman router probably 40 years ago that had 2 incandescent lights that illuminated when you fired the router up. They didn't last long though because of the vibration.

Festool found that lights were a convenience and added them to the Carvex, it would be a nice upgrade to the 1010 and 1400. [dead horse]

Offline ben_r_

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2017, 01:47 PM »
Pricey these days. Looks like its called the Dremel FL400. Nice solution though.

It's a real nice solution, and I agree...on Amazon for $116, it is pricey for what it is. Then I decided to look elsewhere, and found that the actual list price is only $46.  [jawdrop] [jawdrop]

It actually sells in the $28-$38 range. The vendor below is getting some in inventory and will be selling them for $23.50.

http://www.ledarealights.org/dremel-fl400-flex-light/
If they actually do get more stock in. It might be a discontinued product and they just havent updated their website and/or dont know yet. It doesnt seem to be available anywhere making me think its off the market now.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2017, 02:01 PM »
It might be a discontinued product and they just havent updated their website and/or dont know yet. It doesnt seem to be available anywhere making me think its off the market now.

Ya I think you're right, I searched the Dremel website and found zilch.

There appears to be one available on this website:

https://www.ebay.com/p/Dremel-Fl400-Flex-Light/1685443403

Offline QuailRider43

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2017, 07:02 PM »

Offline antss

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2017, 07:53 PM »
I've read this discussion and have a question:

is Festool listening to their customers and improving their tools on this one ?

Or are they too busy boxing up battery sanders ?

I'm reminded of a recent Domino discussion in which many postulated (and some outright said , though erroneously ) that Festool in changed the pins on the domino to tabs because "they listened to customer feedback and ""improved"" the tool accordingly. ".

Customers asking for lights in Festool routers is a pretty old discussion, but where's the improvement ? Or even acknowledgement that there will be a study ?

Are we throwing in the towel Festool ; conceding that brands like Dewalt and that king of the homecenter tool aisle -Ridgid- make better routers ? They have lights in them, and have for a while. They're as powerful as comparable OF models , and have dust collection too.

Or was the "we listen to the customer" line from the Domino discussion a bunch of bunk ?

And the real question:  When are integrated lights going to be offered on Festool routers ?

Offline ben_r_

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2017, 09:01 PM »
My favorite lighting accessory  [laughing]

http://www.sbflashlights.com/Spark-Headlamps/Spark-SD6-460NW-p139.html
Cheaper and much lighter:

https://www.fenixlighting.com/product/hl23-fenix-headlamp/

Dont need up to 450 lumens for up close work like using a router.
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Offline Dovetail65

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2017, 09:37 PM »
It's time for Festool to simply upgrade their routers. Come on they are all long in the tooth and the OF2200 at 900.00 certainly should have a high power adjustable intensity led ring, among other upgrades.

It' been what 7 years since the OF 2200 has seen any kind of upgrade? It's actually aggravating.

Festool  Quit wasting time with homeowner priced so called Pro sanders and please pay attention to the top end where your true niche is.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2017, 09:41 PM by Dovetail65 »
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Offline Bob D.

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2017, 10:16 PM »
It's time for Festool to simply upgrade their routers. Come on they are all long in the tooth and the OF2200 at 900.00 certainly should have a high power adjustable intensity led ring, among other upgrades.

It' been what 7 years since the OF 2200 has seen any kind of upgrade? It's actually aggravating.

Festool  Quit wasting time with homeowner priced so called Pro sanders and please pay attention to the top end where your true niche is.

Problem is the profit on 2 or 3 sanders is probably more than one OF2200,
and I bet the sales numbers will have the sanders out in front once they
catch on. So if you're trying to keep the home office and stockholders happy,
you go after the product with the higher profit margin.
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Offline Dovetail65

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2017, 10:32 PM »
That may or may not be true, but lets get real in the actual pro5 debacle they lost money. The Led statement goes for the entire line of routers and drills, everything needs an Led in 2017. Business is all about making money, so it's difficult  to argue when a person brings up money, but Festool really needs this router update.

The Carvex  was a flop, the pro5 was a flop, the Kapex has a huge motor problem everyone is aware of.  Now they need hit, a router upgrade knocked out of park to get people back on board. That's what I would be telling my team of tool designers if I was at the top of Festool. Make us forget about the failures.

I already let my Trion sit on a shelf, sold my TS 55, TS 75 and Carvex. Two pro 5 I have on a shelf I probably will sell. Now if I am doing this stuff I know loads more people are too, so Festool needs to look at the over all picture.

As far as making more money on a sander they sold for 99.99 there is simply no way in heck it had a profit margin higher than an OF2200. I am betting they make more on the OF2200 individually to compensate for selling less of them. Other tool companies are catching up fast, I just dont see why Festool would wait on a router update much longer.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2017, 10:34 PM by Dovetail65 »
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2017, 11:28 PM »
I already let my Trion sit on a shelf, sold my TS 55, TS 75 and Carvex. Two pro 5 I have on a shelf I probably will sell. Now if I am doing this stuff I know loads more people are too.
Other tool companies are catching up fast, I just dont see why Festool would wait on a router update much longer.

Especially if the Shaper turns out to be the game changer it appears it will be.

Just received a Mafell jig saw today...I will definitely put my Trion & the Carvex down the road. The levels of sophistication and elegance in this jig saw are hard to believe. All mating/sliding  surfaces on this saw are machined/flycut. It is such a huge difference in machining finesse from one manufacturer to another that's it's hard to explain.

Unfortunately for Festool, now that I own a P1cc and the commensurate rail, will a new Mafell track saw be far behind?  I've been underwhelmed with the power on the TS 55.
I still like the TSC 55 but I think Festool needs to amp up their prowess several levels.

Offline Bob D.

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #25 on: September 09, 2017, 05:06 AM »
I wasn't thinking of the Pro5. That was a promotion more or less
meant to stimulate interest in their sander line was it not?
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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #26 on: September 09, 2017, 06:20 AM »
As my dog Magyver would probably recommend - duct tape and an led flashlight? [eek] or  [thumbs up]

Peter

@Peter Halle  - I am not your dog... Woof Woof.

I use one of these:
http://blackdiamondequipment.com/en/headlamps-and-lanterns/icon-headlamp-BD620629BLAKALL1.html#start=6

Worked today with the brush using the spar varnish.
Works with the router.
Works with the manual screwdriver.

And sits in the hurricane bag when required.

Offline ben_r_

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2017, 12:08 PM »
I wasn't thinking of the Pro5. That was a promotion more or less
meant to stimulate interest in their sander line was it not?
It is coming back as a permanent sander. The NAME Pro 5 was a promotional deal as was the dark blue Systainer, but the sander itself is coming back exactly the same as the ETS 125 REQ.
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Offline Nat X

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2017, 05:51 PM »
I've read this discussion and have a question:

is Festool listening to their customers and improving their tools on this one ?

Or are they too busy boxing up battery sanders ?

I'm reminded of a recent Domino discussion in which many postulated (and some outright said , though erroneously ) that Festool in changed the pins on the domino to tabs because "they listened to customer feedback and ""improved"" the tool accordingly. ".

Customers asking for lights in Festool routers is a pretty old discussion, but where's the improvement ? Or even acknowledgement that there will be a study ?

Are we throwing in the towel Festool ; conceding that brands like Dewalt and that king of the homecenter tool aisle -Ridgid- make better routers ? They have lights in them, and have for a while. They're as powerful as comparable OF models , and have dust collection too.

Or was the "we listen to the customer" line from the Domino discussion a bunch of bunk ?

And the real question:  When are integrated lights going to be offered on Festool routers ?

Perhaps the concerns of people who worry about whether or not all their tools match each other are not as important as you would like them to be. Go shine a light into the extended dust chamber of a 2200 while it's plunged and running and tell me what you can see through the dust film that accumulates instantaneously. After that, you can send a furious tweet to some intern at Purdy because the paint brush you bought can't send text messages or remind you to take your heart pills.

Offline antss

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2017, 07:57 PM »
Nat, perhaps you missed that this thread is not about the OF2200 ?

I'd tend to agree that lighting on that would not be useful , especially when it's mounted in a table .............Another thing FT USA seemingly can't be bothered with.

Your comment about Purdy brushes is simply absurd.    ::)

Offline QuailRider43

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Re: Festool OF 1400 Router lighting options?
« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2017, 10:03 PM »
My favorite lighting accessory  [laughing]

http://www.sbflashlights.com/Spark-Headlamps/Spark-SD6-460NW-p139.html
Cheaper and much lighter:

https://www.fenixlighting.com/product/hl23-fenix-headlamp/

Dont need up to 450 lumens for up close work like using a router.

Are you a CandlePowerForum member perhaps?  The Fenix is indeed a good choice for indoor use.  Mine does double duty for outdoor work, like snow blowing during those cold winter nights.  I don't hike with it though, because the moths keep flying into my face.

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