You assume we all know how to do that

Paul,

I apologize.  I missed this post.  

The printer and I have been working towards a solution to the issue for the botched batch.  We have come up with something - my idea - that I think is better than what was originally proposed and advertised.  I have 3 of the 4 sizes here and honestly I think that this solution should be rolled out to the rest.

I can't post images here yet, but I am sending one to someone here on the FOG who will review the product for me / us.  That person is well qualified.

I will update more when I can.  Rest assured, I want nothing more than to see the happy faces and images and posts here once the members receive them.

Peter

Paul and everyone else,

Thank you for your patience.

Over the last week I have been in communication with many of the people who have been involved in this project.  We have traded emails and looked at images that I have sent.  I received the most important comments just today.  That is why I delayed posting.  Earlier today I sent off to the one member who could compare Fogtainers his ordered version with the modifications that you will see below.  That member has already seen images of what will be arriving.  I have asked him to post his thoughts about the two versions here - without any input from me.

The skinny is that thru this process and the botched printing of the first 79, I think that there is a better way.  Better in that I think the quality s better, sharper, and more durable. Don't take this as a sales pitch.  I am awaiting pricing for this potential change.

Please note that the border you see in this images has been eliminated due to comments I have received, although I liked it myself.

This post will be modified to show images.  Right now the Forum software hates me and is timing out, thus not allowing me to post 7 images.

See - it happens to me too.  I am not special.

Peter













Note:  If you see an image at the bottom of this post - that is a photoshopped image removing the border.  It gives an idea of the quality and the color matching.

Peter

I welcome questions and comments 

I like it better without the border, looks more Pro. The border looks like a China knockoff trying to look cool. However, having bashed it, I'm Ok with my Fogtainers showing up without or with borders, it's fine. I won't be _itchin'
Maybe I missed something or am unclear on the solution ... the original idea was to print on the Sys, right? Now to fix the printers screw up we have gone to stick on labels?. Am I getting this right? I'm Ok either way, as long as we use better stick on glue than Festool uses for their labels.

I like it without the border, but I would not be happy with a sticker.

Paul

I never thought that I would like or consider a label either.  Here is some information about the label:

The decal is reverse printed in three layers on the back of a flexible polycarbonate sheet (Lexan).  The result is that the printing is protected by en extremely durable coating.  The resulting print is more detailed.  The adhesive is a 3M product (3M 300LSE) that is an acrylic formulation which increases strength over time that is specified for permanent labels in harsh conditions.  The decal can be written on with a permanent marker and later that can be wiped off with isopropyl alcohol without damage to the label.  The label is .5mm thick.

From 3M The adhesive manufacturer - "3M 9472: 3M 9472, also known as 300LSE, is a hi-strength acrylic adhesive that provides a very high bond strength to most surfaces. It bonds extremely well to low surface energy plastics including polystyrene, polypropylene, polyethylene, and powder paints. It can also adhere to surfaces lightly contaminated with oil. Humidity, UV, water, and many chemicals do not affect performance. The temperature range of this adhesive is -40 degrees F to 300 degrees F (short term). "

I am offering this as information, not to try and sell the idea.  

All comments are welcome and encouraged!

Peter

EDIT:  I was typing this and when I went to post saw that Wayne had done his post.  Both Wayne and Jonathan were consulted about their opinions and thoughts prior to posing this possability.

maybe a spare label supplied with the systainer may sway some of the less convinced sticker wise and should not impact on cost to much.

Good one, thanks for my morning laugh! 

It looks good whatever way you go . In the real world we do the best  we can.  I wasnt in this for the details its just being part of a group of people who love what they do and enjoy the quality of the tools they work with and it shows in their work. No job turns out perfect but we continue to learn from every thing we do.

Chris,

if you look in the top picture the logo is off center.  The distance from the left edge of the indented area to the widest point (the bottom of the F) is 1.75 inches.  The measurement from the right side to the closest point ( the widest point of the large "G") is 1.125".

From the bottom, the distance to the bottom of the logo at the left side is 4 inches.  At the right end it is 4 1/16 inches.

These measurements vary from box to box.  The 1/16 inch difference is not as noticeable on the sys 4 boxes, but as the size of the box decreases, it becomes more noticeable.

I would have taken more pictures, but somehow my charger for the camera has gone missing and my replacement has not yet arrived. 

The clarity of the printing on the bottom is based on the number of stamps the box gets.  The ink does flow a little.  I increased the number of stamps versus Fogtainer 1 because of the voids in the printing.

Keep the comments and questions coming.

Peter

I like either but if the label is as good a match to the color of the sustainer I like the clarity of the printing.   I think that if you made the border a little thinner, perhaps the same width of the letters in the logo it would look really nice

I have  Systainer with the Lamello logo on it and it is sharp and crisp.

And who is going to guarantee the stickers will go on straight?

Paul

Honestly I am good what ever everyone decides.  The label looks good and it sounds like it will be durable.  I would not mind seeing the thinner border that has been suggested.
Don

I have some Porter Cable tools with an indented area for the product info and serial number sticker and they can't manage to get them in that well defined area on the assembly line (during the Pentair days).

Humans are capable of doing a good job or not caring and being sloppy, so it's possible.