Jesse Cloud
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« on: April 18, 2011, 06:33 PM » |
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I am rethinking my router utilization (currently 7 routers in the shop, 3 of them Festool). I found a need for a router with an 8mm collet in a router table. I kludged the OF2200 into my simple LV steel table with great difficulty. For one thing, its much easier to plunge the 2200's 17.2 pounds downward rather than up - definitely need a lift mechanism  . I've got the task done and will take the 2200 out of the table tomorrow, but this got me to thinking. So, anyone got a good RT setup for a 2200? Thanks in advance! Jess |
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ScotF
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2011, 08:02 PM » |
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I would be interested in this too. If only the CMS were available...
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RonMiller
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Location: Western Ky Member Since: Oct 2009
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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2011, 08:22 PM » |
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Me too, Jesse. I've got the LV table and like it but my router is a bit underpowered.
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builderbob
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2011, 08:37 PM » |
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Maybe those that have been to the classes and have had an opportunity to fiddle with the CMS can enlighten us, but how do the routers lift in the CMS? That may give us an idea of how to implement that into our NAINA methods.
Bob
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PeterK
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2011, 09:03 PM » |
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With the 2200, you can lock the depth rod to the base and use the fine adjuster as a height adjust but only from below when suspended. If you go to Jerry Work's website, he has a detailed post on using the 2200 suspended between 2 MFTs. Aweful expensive router for that use. I always wanted to see someone use the 2000 router as the price was half and it is a powerful router. I use my PC 7518 in a lift and have not tried yet to invert my 2200.
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windmill man
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Location: Lancashire UK Member Since: Aug 2007
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2011, 09:20 PM » |
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Not much help to you chaps
I run a 2200 inverted, its in a VL module attached to a MFT.
The router is clamped to the insert plate and the rise and fall is controlled via a spindle from above, its similar to an Incra Mast r lift set up.
John
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Mr Handyman
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2011, 04:54 AM » |
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It is an acme-threaded rod with an extended nut that lifts the OF2200 under the flat top of the turret on the side. The rod is, as mentioned above, fastened to the CMS-plate.
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gates559
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2011, 07:30 AM » |
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I got mine in a Kreg table, If I had more money I would replace it with a porter cable in a second. It is very hard to adjust, being upside down will also cause the collet lock to fill full of dust and not work. I think you would need to take out or modify the spring to use a lift, it plunges so hard I cant see any lifts being heavy duty enough to handle it.
I plan to buy a shaper very soon and the 2200 will not be in the table after that.
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Mac
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2011, 08:12 AM » |
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Jesse, can I ask; when making your chairs and things, what sort of percentage split would you say there is between handheld router work and router table work?
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Jesse Cloud
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Location: Placitas, NM Member Since: Jan 2007
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2011, 09:39 AM » |
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Hey Mac,
Happy Easter, or as we say here 'Happy Vernal Holiday'.
This is just my own personal style and I know other chairmakers who differ, but I will often make a chair without using the router table at all. I make simple jigs for mortising that register to specific places on the chairs, e.g. a stop that registers on the bottom of the leg.
My recent foray on the router table was to make the male part of a sliding dovetail, which will attach the crest rail onto a notch cut from the top of the rear legs. I'll post some pics in a few days.
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Jesse Cloud
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2011, 09:43 AM » |
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I got mine in a Kreg table, If I had more money I would replace it with a porter cable in a second. It is very hard to adjust, being upside down will also cause the collet lock to fill full of dust and not work. I think you would need to take out or modify the spring to use a lift, it plunges so hard I cant see any lifts being heavy duty enough to handle it.
I plan to buy a shaper very soon and the 2200 will not be in the table after that.
Hey gates, I think we are on the same page. I got it to work, but concluded that it would be a fools errand to try to use the 2200 long term in a table. I will say, though, that the dust collection was brilliant compared to the pc that normally hangs there! Shaper is a good idea. I've been coveting one for a while. Wish I had the space... |
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gates559
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2011, 10:18 AM » |
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I enjoy the dust collection as well but the collection from the router can quite often over whelm the tube on the 2200 and get clogged up.
It's very frustrating trying to make slight adjustments with the spring so stiff.
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Julian Tracy
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2011, 10:21 AM » |
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FYI, The PC 3 1/4HP VS routers are on clearance at Allprotools.com (or close to that) for around $225-240. They've got just the router motors (for use in a lift) for about $200.
Why anyone would park a $800 router in a table is beyond me... unless you just like your stuff to match.
JT
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fifo28
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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2011, 10:48 AM » |
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Maybe I am missing something but I see the 2200 having limited use (especially for the price). I have the PC 7518 in a router table with a lift and it is great for that purpose. I also have the Festool 1400 and MKV 700. From a router perspective I think I am completely covered. Putting the 2200 in a table seems like complete over kill and you eliminate all of incredible features that the router has (i.e. dust collection, adjust-ability, bases etc). I have looked at the 2200, but I am not sure where it would shine. Its, big and powerful, but its hard to manage all of that power in your hands. I think a router table is better suited to spin larger bits. I saw the video of Bryce making a frame and panel door with the 2200 by hand. Interesting, but I would rather do it on a table (I am a hobbyist). With the 1400 I could probably do everything I would use the 2200, just with multiple passes.
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FEStastic
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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2012, 05:09 PM » |
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Built this on the weekend to house my of2200  Love the router used a bottle jack and a old MFT frame from Ebay  took apart a clip on base.  This makes it as easy as I could come up with getting it back to hand held mode the Mft base helps with clamping feather boards and jigs also in making the cutout   I can still use it as an MFT Still need to get and fit a NVS for safety All in all a productive weekend hopefully will get a fence made soon |
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