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Offline SoonerFan

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Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« on: November 05, 2017, 09:08 AM »
Lots of discussions on sanders here on FOG so I thought I would share my thoughts on my current lineup.  I currently have three Festool sanders.  And I think three is all I will need for a while.

I started with an RO 125 as part of my first Festool purchase.  Great at removing material and did a fairly good job of finish sanding.  It was the only Festool sander I had for a couple of years.  Next up for me was a DTS to be able to get in corners and have a sander more suitable to finish sanding.  I have used the DTS for lots of projects including one yesterday.  I like it more the more I use it.  My third is an ETS EC 125 which I purchased recently.  I have not used it extensively yet but so far I think its great.  I sanded a shelf yesterday and the ETS EC 125 was the perfect sander of this type of work for me.

I understand all the benefits of covering larger pieces faster with the 150 platform but as a hobbyist and home owner that advantage was not key for me.  Plus I just like the size of 125/5 inch sanders.  With these three I think I am set unless I ever find a need for a cordless sander.  Lots of other Festool kit I would like to have but at least for now there are no more sanders on that list.

What about everyone else?  Happy with your current line up?  Would you do anything different knowing what you know now and looking to purchase your first Festool sander?

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2017, 09:24 AM »
Those are great sanders. I also like the LS sander for profiles. I know some folks do not think it is powerful or fast, but it does a good job on its intended purpose. I also make sculpted pieces and really like the RAS for heavy sculpting and the RO90 for sanding smaller areas. I have most sanders FT carries except air or the 5mm orbit finish sanders and if I really had to pair it down i would go Rotex 125 and Rotex 90 and LS to start and would then add the RAS. I would quickly try and add a DTS and RTS because they are so good. These 5 would cover everythng for me, I think. I do like my RO150 but the 125 seems better suited for smaller furniture pieces, which i make more of than large pieces. Ask when i am building a dining table or other large work and i would probably say my 150 sanders and RS sander. [big grin]

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2017, 09:26 AM »
My thinking has been the same as yours with a difference in the order purchased and one decision yet to be made.

I currently have the ETS EC 150 3mm and the new DTS and have been very satisfied with this combo.

My uncertainty comes from whether to buy the ROS 150 or the ETS EC 150 5mm for my third sander?

Some people claim that the ETS EC 150 5mm is actually faster at stock removal than the Rotex.
« Last Edit: November 05, 2017, 10:00 AM by RobBob »

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2017, 09:53 AM »
Not sure I would agree with speed as 5mm orbit is same.

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2017, 10:04 AM »
Not sure I would agree with speed as 5mm orbit is same.

I don't think so...

Rotex speeds:
Speed Eccentric Motion   3300 - 6800 opm
Speed Rotary Motion   320 - 660 rpm

ETS EC 150 5mm speed:
Eccentric motion speed   6 000 - 10 000 RPM

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2017, 10:11 AM »
I am happy with mine:

1st:  Rolex - Rotex 150 - taught me that sanding didn't have to be miserable
2nd:  ETS150/3 - needed something lighter for overhead work.  Sacrificed speed for a finer orbit.
3rd:  RAS115 - needed to strip paint and other grinder type stuff
4th:  DTS400 - wanted to sand corners.  Round pads sometimes don't cut it.

Next sander if the need arises: LS130 - niche sander that can work on profiles.

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2017, 10:20 AM »
150/3ETS EC, Pro 5, DTS, Makita 1/2 sheet, and most recently an RO 150.  They have pretty effectively sped up and cleaned up my sanding chores, and I think will do just fine until someone comes up with a sanding robot that totally relieves me of the tedium of sanding.  They have CNC routers, why not CNC sanders (rhetorical question)?

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2017, 10:47 AM »
Not sure I would agree with speed as 5mm orbit is same.

I don't think so...

Rotex speeds:
Speed Eccentric Motion   3300 - 6800 opm
Speed Rotary Motion   320 - 660 rpm

ETS EC 150 5mm speed:
Eccentric motion speed   6 000 - 10 000 RPM

Good points. Not sure weight matters or how it plays into speed. What you reference makes sense.

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2017, 12:04 PM »

 Rolex 150


Looks like you made it in life ;)

It's ets 150/5 for me, and I have several (check my signature) started with an RO and ETS 125, brought back the RO and changed for an ETS 150/5, it's my work horse.
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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2017, 12:11 PM »
Peter, that is one hellava watch that sands as well as telling the hour... [big grin] 

My first Festool sander was a recon ETS 125.  I now own an all the sanders excepting the RO 150 (have the Bosch) and the RS (have the Makita).  All the sanders excel at different tasks, I work enough varied specialties to make owning them all worth while.


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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2017, 12:25 PM »
I’ve got 5 of them. Each was purchased for a specific purpose and project and each performed exceedingly well. Attached to my CT 36 they are the best sanders I’ve ever used. By the way the Festool sandpaper lasts and last.
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Offline jacko9

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2017, 12:49 PM »
I'm happy with my lineup;

1) ETS 150-3
2) ETS 125
3) RO 90
4) LS 130

If I had a lot of heavy duty sanding I would probably get the Rotex 150

Offline ben_r_

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2017, 01:10 PM »
ETS EC 150/3 and an RTS 400 EQ. So far havent needed anything more.
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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2017, 01:41 PM »
ETS 150/3, DTS, Pro 5.

Honestly I’ve been considering selling the Pro 5 as it overlaps almost completely with the 150. Would rather have a Rotex for fast removal.

Offline thudchkr

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2017, 04:09 PM »
Rotex 150
ETS EC 150/5
ETS 150/3
Pro 5
RO 90
DTS 400

Agree that their sandpaper is worth the premium price.

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Offline Brian Livingstone

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2017, 05:23 PM »
Hi,

I am a cabinetmaker, furniture builder.  I own:

RO150
DTS 400 REQ
LS130
RS2

Considering:

RTS400 REQ not sure if necessary since I have the DTS
ETS125EC

Surprised how much I use my RO150.

Brian
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Offline SoonerFan

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2017, 07:19 PM »
Peter, that is one hellava watch that sands as well as telling the hour... [big grin] 

My first Festool sander was a recon ETS 125.  I now own an all the sanders excepting the RO 150 (have the Bosch) and the RS (have the Makita).  All the sanders excel at different tasks, I work enough varied specialties to make owning them all worth while.

While I don't foresee a near term need for me to get another sander I am certainly jealous that you have all the Festool sanders except two.  That is quite impressive.

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2017, 07:23 PM »
RO 150
RO 90
DTS 400
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Offline ear3

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2017, 08:28 PM »

Some people claim that the ETS EC 150 5mm is actually faster at stock removal than the Rotex.

It is, compared to when the Rotex is operating in RO mode.
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Offline RobBob

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2017, 08:57 PM »

Some people claim that the ETS EC 150 5mm is actually faster at stock removal than the Rotex.

It is, compared to when the Rotex is operating in RO mode.

I wonder if the standard ETS 150 5mm is also faster than the Rotex in RO mode?

Offline Peter Kelly

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2017, 11:14 AM »
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Happy with your Festool sander lineup?

No, I would say not. My ETS 125 has been pretty disappointing, wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2017, 04:41 PM »
If the ETS 125 is your only sander then I can understand why you're disappointed. Many people don't realize that it's a finish sander and for anything other than finish sanding it's a painfully slow sander to use.

The ETS 125 was the first Festool sander I bought. At first I was extremely disappointed with it, because I was trying to use it for projects outside its intended use.  I was trying to use it for things like stripping lacquer off a door and it was frustrating to use because it was sooooo slow. But then when I'd use it to sand primer I loved it.

My point is that each Festool sander has a sweet spot where they're extremely effective tools.


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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2017, 04:47 PM »
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Happy with your Festool sander lineup?

No, I would say not. My ETS 125 has been pretty disappointing, wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

There are other makers of sanders than Festool, so it should be easy to find a good sander. I have 3 very nice sanders, and the corner sander is pretty good too.

"most sanders just wriggle the paper around, and are not imbued with magical status."... so I am obviously a poor example of a FT-fan boi.

That being said, festool's BS105 and their discontinued dx93 I found worth having.

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2017, 05:17 PM »
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Happy with your Festool sander lineup?

No, I would say not. My ETS 125 has been pretty disappointing, wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

That's how I felt when I purchased the ETS 125.  I returned it and bought the RO 90 instead.  After a short while I decided to get the ETS 150/3 which I love and use very often in my shop.  I did wind up re-purchasing the ETS 125 (during a reconditioning sale) and use it on large furniture projects on vertical surfaces during the final stages of sanding.

Jack

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2017, 05:53 PM »
I love my Festool sanders. Have the RO 90 & 125, ETS 125 and 150 and LS130. I've actually found myself going to the LS when sanding flat boards in the shop which was unexpected as I bought it for profiles. Interestingly enough, I am completely okay staying with the corded versions that I own, versus the newer battery operated. 

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2017, 08:06 PM »
If the ETS 125 is your only sander then I can understand why you're disappointed. Many people don't realize that it's a finish sander and for anything other than finish sanding it's a painfully slow sander to use.

The ETS 125 was the first Festool sander I bought. At first I was extremely disappointed with it, because I was trying to use it for projects outside its intended use.  I was trying to use it for things like stripping lacquer off a door and it was frustrating to use because it was sooooo slow. But then when I'd use it to sand primer I loved it.

My point is that each Festool sander has a sweet spot where they're extremely effective tools.


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If there's a "sweet spot" for the ETS 125, I certainly haven't found it. I've tried it extensively on all types of wood at varying stages of finishing and end up with swirls and pig tails pretty well everywhere. I've had a Makita sander that cost 1/2 as much that performed better.

I bit the bullet a while back, purchased a Ceros and wouldn't trade it for anything.


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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2017, 09:31 PM »
I used my ETS EC 125 again today on a small project for my wife.  I know there have been a few positive and few negative comments on the ETS sander in this thread and I appreciate both types of comments because I learn from both the positive and the negative.   

I found mine a joy to use.  I find it great that I can can share consumables, plug-it cord and hose with my RO 125.  I really like how close it is to the work piece and I am very happy with the results.  Dust collection was terrific even with suction on my CT turned all the way down.  I used Granat up to 220 on this project and knocked it out quickly after work. 

All in all I am good with the ETS EC 125.  I do however greatly value my RO 125 when there is a need to remove material quickly and easily. 

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2017, 10:40 PM »
Happy with your current line up?

Yes, the sanders are efficient and the consumables last a long time.

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2017, 03:11 AM »
I used my ETS EC 125 again today on a small project for my wife.  I know there have been a few positive and few negative comments on the ETS sander in this thread and I appreciate both types of comments because I learn from both.

One has to be careful when discussing the ETS 125 & ETS EC 125. Sometimes people get sloppy or lazy when referring to the performance of these two sanders and mistakenly interchange the nomenclature when reviewing the performance of these 2 sanders.

From personal experience, there is a huge difference in performance between the ETS 125 and the ETS EC 125. And having read most of the reviews of these sanders on the FOG, it’s been my experience that when people specifically refer to the ETS EC 125 it’s had glowing reviews. The ETS 125...not so much. 

The only trash talking of the ETS EC 125 has centered around its cost and the lack of Festool’s factory support for interchangeable 5” and 6” pads, even though it’s possible and easy.

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Re: Happy with your Festool sander lineup?
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2017, 03:32 AM »
I used my ETS EC 125 again today on a small project for my wife.  I know there have been a few positive and few negative comments on the ETS sander in this thread and I appreciate both types of comments because I learn from both the positive and the negative.   

I found mine a joy to use.  I find it great that I can can share consumables, plug-it cord and hose with my RO 125.  I really like how close it is to the work piece and I am very happy with the results.  Dust collection was terrific even with suction on my CT turned all the way down.  I used Granat up to 220 on this project and knocked it out quickly after work. 

All in all I am good with the ETS EC 125.  I do however greatly value my RO 125 when there is a need to remove material quickly and easily.

It is a good sander... But the Mirka screens might be worth a try if you want to see if it can be even better.
They sell a combo pack, and I often stop at 240 (120,180, then 240)

I only have 2 FT sanders, but I like them both.