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Offline Alex

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2017, 10:43 AM »
No rAgrets.

I'm always looking for sales or used items, so I hardly buy anything for the full retail price. If something doesn't work out I sell it again for what I paid for it or more.


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Offline jbuss8706

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2017, 11:04 AM »
As a new to Festool owner, this thread has helped me tremendously. I've been keeping my eye out for a Carvex, but honestly I have a Bosch that works just fine. It is purely for want of another Festool product that fits nicely in it's own systainer. thanks for helping me get over that hump :)
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Offline HarveyWildes

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2017, 11:06 AM »
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I am curious about the slipping on the Centrotec extension. Are you talking about the 492540 6" bit holder? I have several of those and have used them when needed. I haven't noticed any slipping but maybe I just missed it. What exactly is slipping?
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It is interesting to see what items people find useful and others have no use for.

Seth

WRT slipping, my experience was that 1/4" ball detent straight bits wobbled so badly that they slipped in the slot.  I got the Snappy Centrotec to 1/4" ball detent adaptor and use now anytime I'm using a 1/4" ball detent bit.  Wish Festool made a 1/4" ball detent chuck to compliment the Centrotec chuck.

WRT to usefulness, everyone has their own pattern of work - it is interesting to see how other people accomplish the same tasks different ways, and how differences in work patterns make for differences in the usefulness and value of different tools.  That's one of things that keeps me coming back to FOG.  The great serendipity moments for me are when someone describes a technique for doing a job that I would never do, but I am then able to apply their technique to a problem that I need to solve.

Offline Cheese

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2017, 11:42 AM »
And the guide rail deflector.

+1 on the guide rail deflector

I purchased it to solve a problem and instead it created another problem.

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2017, 11:45 AM »
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I am curious about the slipping on the Centrotec extension. Are you talking about the 492540 6" bit holder? I have several of those and have used them when needed. I haven't noticed any slipping but maybe I just missed it. What exactly is slipping?
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It is interesting to see what items people find useful and others have no use for.

Seth

WRT slipping, my experience was that 1/4" ball detent straight bits wobbled so badly that they slipped in the slot.  I got the Snappy Centrotec to 1/4" ball detent adaptor and use now anytime I'm using a 1/4" ball detent bit.  Wish Festool made a 1/4" ball detent chuck to compliment the Centrotec chuck.

WRT to usefulness, everyone has their own pattern of work - it is interesting to see how other people accomplish the same tasks different ways, and how differences in work patterns make for differences in the usefulness and value of different tools.  That's one of things that keeps me coming back to FOG.  The great serendipity moments for me are when someone describes a technique for doing a job that I would never do, but I am then able to apply their technique to a problem that I need to solve.

Sorry for going OT on Centrotec ..... please see this topic http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/centrotec/new/#new

Seth

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2017, 11:46 AM »
And the guide rail deflector.

+1 on the guide rail deflector

I purchased it to solve a problem and instead it created another problem.

A perfect example ............... I like the guide rail deflector it works for my cutting table set up.

Seth

Offline bkharman

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2017, 11:51 AM »
Not so much a regret... but I wish I had known a bit more about the many, many ways i could use the dog holes on the MFT early on.  If I had, I wouldn't have bought the kit, I would have just bought the MFT/3 Basic as I really don't use anything but the table and my add on accessories.

I also wish in the US, we could buy just the CMS-VL without the fence as I KNEW what I was going to do with that project!

On another note, I have always been a fan of my Carvex 420... it has always treated me well.

cheers.  Bryan.
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Offline T. Ernsberger

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #37 on: March 14, 2017, 01:49 PM »
The hk55,  I thought it was going to be a great saw, but it's inability to cut 2x on a 45 degree bevel makes it useless as a construction saw. 

Offline schneems

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #38 on: March 14, 2017, 01:59 PM »
@bkharman can you say more about your MFT setup? I have a track saw but no table, i'm cutting on the floor for now. I've got a craigslist alert and I think I want the full table with angle guide and everything. Would love to learn more about how you've got things set up.

Also for some reference, i've got a small shop, so i'm trying to get as much mileage out of the track saw as I can. No room for a permanent chop saw, table saw, etc. I was thinking the full MFT would help replace a few other tools (even if it's not an ideal replacement).

Offline bkharman

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #39 on: March 14, 2017, 02:08 PM »
@bkharman can you say more about your MFT setup? I have a track saw but no table, i'm cutting on the floor for now. I've got a craigslist alert and I think I want the full table with angle guide and everything. Would love to learn more about how you've got things set up.

Also for some reference, i've got a small shop, so i'm trying to get as much mileage out of the track saw as I can. No room for a permanent chop saw, table saw, etc. I was thinking the full MFT would help replace a few other tools (even if it's not an ideal replacement).

Sure.  I use my MFT as support for the CMS-VL.  I use the router attachment, and other NAINA setups.  I also have an Incra fence on it to get accurate and repeatable routes/cuts/etc.  If you are just using the MFT as a cutting station, you will probably accomplish what you need.  If i treat mine as a cutting station, I personally have adopted using rail dogs or just lay the workpiece on the top and cut using two reference marks on the plywood or workpiece.  I have a TS unit, a chopsaw, a jigsaw  and a 55 to cut with so I have a few more options than you do.  If you are looking for a one stop shop, the cutting table (search this forum for ideas) might fit 99% of your needs.

PM or reply here if you need some more details and pics.

cheers.  Bryan.
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Offline RustE

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2017, 02:11 PM »
The hk55,  I thought it was going to be a great saw, but it's inability to cut 2x on a 45 degree bevel makes it useless as a construction saw.

I'm guessing this is with the saw on the FSK guide rail?

Offline T. Ernsberger

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #41 on: March 14, 2017, 02:27 PM »
The hk55,  I thought it was going to be a great saw, but it's inability to cut 2x on a 45 degree bevel makes it useless as a construction saw.

I'm guessing this is with the saw on the FSK guide rail?


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Offline Samo

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #42 on: March 14, 2017, 03:46 PM »
"I also wish in the US, we could buy just the CMS-VL".  [dead horse]

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #43 on: March 14, 2017, 04:08 PM »
I bought the rail stop kits for my routing needs.  But now that I have a router table I have no real need for the, at all.  I've used them maybe once. [eek]
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Offline bobfog

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #44 on: March 14, 2017, 04:15 PM »
Not really, but I think I dodged a bullet by doing a side-by-side of the Carvex 420 alongside the Bosch 160, and got the Bosch.

Offline Peter_C

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #45 on: March 14, 2017, 04:20 PM »
If I'm working without the CT I just attach the hose to the saw and most of the dust finishes inside the hose instead of in my face.
I have been known to do the same. Works pretty well for a few quick cuts.

And the guide rail deflector.

+1 on the guide rail deflector

I purchased it to solve a problem and instead it created another problem.
I no longer use mine either.

My add-on to this thread is the Festool miter gauge for the tracksaw. First it required immediate modification to be functional as it didn't have enough friction to hold an angle. Second it...well sucks. Fortunately aftermarket companies have stepped in and filled the void.


Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2017, 10:53 PM »
The parallel guides.  I really gave them a chance but in the end I couldn't take it anymore.  They are heavy and the yoke from the extensions for cutting narrow stock gets in the way.  Then I resorted to using a ruler with a ruler stop while abutting it the cut's waste side to get my narrow cuts.  And I just bought the Precision Parallel Guides, have yet to try them and I'm hopeful they will be what I'm looking for.

Yeah, I agree.  Expensive.  Heavy.  Poorly designed with no cursor for precise location on the measurement strip.  Difficult to slide into position.  Must hang off the ends.  Clumsy.

I made my own from plywood in an extra long and regular version.  They work much better and are easier to use.

Offline ScotF

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2017, 11:40 PM »
I try and research things before I buy, so no real regrets. But I have sold both my Trion and Carvex jigsaws and the accessory set as I find Bosch and Mafell to fit my needs better. I have changed drills and sold off older ones. But other than that no real regrets. There are certainly tools I use more often, but when the need arises for a particular tool or accessory I am glad to have some options.

Offline Paul G

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #48 on: March 15, 2017, 12:34 AM »
Planex and it was returned.
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Offline mrB

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #49 on: March 15, 2017, 02:17 AM »
It's funny isn't it. . how different people rate or dismiss the same product! There are several post here bashing the Carvex 420 and Trion Jigsaws . . . .

I have never used better jigsaws (not used maffel but used several high end bosch & makita). And I have never burned up a blade unless I knew I was overworking the wrong blade for the cut.

Literally everyone who uses one of my jigsaws (after I have set the blade guides for the current blade) exclaims at how good they are!! Honestly this is true.  In fact one fella once put down my Carvex 18v, after cutting quite a complex hole through the rail of an oak door, and exclaimed "Festool is like Crack man, seriously addictive".
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Offline #Tee

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« Reply #50 on: March 15, 2017, 02:22 AM »
i dont regret anything really, i think every penny spent on tools is better than a few rounds of beers with the guys and have nothing to show for but many trips to the unrinal.
When youre feeling depressed just treat yourself to a systainer even if its a mini systainer its ok.

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Offline Scorpion

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #51 on: March 15, 2017, 08:02 AM »
As a new to Festool owner, this thread has helped me tremendously. I've been keeping my eye out for a Carvex, but honestly I have a Bosch that works just fine. It is purely for want of another Festool product that fits nicely in it's own systainer. thanks for helping me get over that hump :)
I don't dislike my carvex.  I wish I'd got the cordless version but I still don't dislike mine.  I don't find jigsaws to be precision tools in general but they have their purpose.  If I can avoid using one I do.  I like how the light works on the saw, the dust collection (sorta), and how it has a variety if base plates for a variety of materials/situations (thought I really only use a few of them). 


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Offline kdzito

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #52 on: March 15, 2017, 08:37 AM »
i dont regret anything really, i think every penny spent on tools is better than a few rounds of beers with the guys and have nothing to show for but many trips to the unrinal.
  I'm with you on this.  Although I do have an occasional one.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #53 on: March 15, 2017, 08:56 AM »
It's funny isn't it. . how different people rate or dismiss the same product! There are several post here bashing the Carvex 420 and Trion Jigsaws . . . .

You're right, Seth mentioned the same thing in post 36... [tongue]

Funny thing is, I like both my Trion and Carvex saws. Still own them...still use them, a ton better than the Milwaukee I used to own.

Offline kdzito

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« Reply #54 on: March 15, 2017, 08:59 AM »
It's funny isn't it. . how different people rate or dismiss the same product! There are several post here bashing the Carvex 420 and Trion Jigsaws . . . .

 
I too like my Carvex 420 and love that it's cordless!
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Offline papabear1044

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« Reply #55 on: March 15, 2017, 10:52 AM »
The Kapex, hands down.  The danged thing isn't even close to being accurate.  Of by as much as a degree or so.  Inexcusable.

Offline RKA

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #56 on: March 15, 2017, 01:57 PM »
My CMS VL.  Fence is clumsy, multiple parts of the table top and edges aren't perfectly coplaner.  I thought I could use my Kapex wings with this for infeed and outfeed, but that creates another surface that doesn't quite line up right.  Sliding table is great until saw dust cakes inside the tracks, so you have to check the tracks frequently if using the table.  It is nice that it can serve as an extension to my MFT when the router is not in use.  I think eventually a dedicated table and router with a cast iron top will replace it. 
-Raj

Offline rst

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Re: Is there a Festool Tool or accessory that you regret purchasing.
« Reply #57 on: March 15, 2017, 04:23 PM »
I'm one of those neurotics that tends to buy all accessories for my tools knowing tha usually I will find a use for them.  That being said I have quite a few things that I do not use regularly.  I agree with quite a few posters that often making some of the accessories reguires some tweeking to make them usefull.  The CMS fence really was a pain to adjust minutely so I bought Woodpeckers fence adjustor and modified a 4"x 2" heavy channel to give me fine adjustment.  It works so well I'm considering buying another and replacing the Incra LS adjustor on my older large table.  As far as the carvex complaints, I have the corded and cordless versions, and love them both.  My personal op is that most problems are with adjusting the guides to individual blades.  I have an older Bosch, the 1582 barrel that I've had 30 years that is also a good saw.

Offline HarveyWildes

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« Reply #58 on: March 15, 2017, 05:02 PM »
I'm one of those neurotics that tends to buy all accessories for my tools knowing tha usually I will find a use for them.  That being said I have quite a few things that I do not use regularly.  I agree with quite a few posters that often making some of the accessories reguires some tweeking to make them usefull.  The CMS fence really was a pain to adjust minutely so I bought Woodpeckers fence adjustor and modified a 4"x 2" heavy channel to give me fine adjustment.  It works so well I'm considering buying another and replacing the Incra LS adjustor on my older large table.  As far as the carvex complaints, I have the corded and cordless versions, and love them both.  My personal op is that most problems are with adjusting the guides to individual blades.  I have an older Bosch, the 1582 barrel that I've had 30 years that is also a good saw.

Could you start another thread with some pictures and an explanation of your router fence?

Offline rst

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« Reply #59 on: March 15, 2017, 09:15 PM »
Sorry Harvey, My pics will not attachand I have not taken the time to figure out why.  Some of my earlier posts have some pics but lately nothing sticks...I keep getting a Fakepath messange.