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« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2010, 08:41 AM » |
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Well you shouldn't have any problems adjusting to macs way of doing things. It's all considerably less complicated than Windows, mind you I haven't really had much time with a windows machine since xp was being phased out for vista. I had enough of mucking around with how buggy xp was and made the switch. Using a mac has eliminated those frustrations but as I said it misses a lot of stuff too. Oh ya and i absolutely hate Itunes, still looking for a better mac alternative 4 years in.
I hate ITunes! Always have I hates years ago I bought a iPod and it needed iTunes installing on my windows and it tries to tale over and uses a lot more PCU. If I had to decide between the two I would say vista. As you can live with out mac leopard but you can not live without vista as you wouldn't be able to do everything you want with all the limitations mac has. So in will not be throwin my laptop wiv vista ultimate any time soon nor my PC. I'll take some pics of where it will be living when I have finished the computer desk off which I should of already done lol Jmb |
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« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2010, 09:33 AM » |
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Ya I've been thinking about getting Windows 7 as a dual boot for my mac, also Linux just to learn more about computer programing. Granted this Imac is a few years old now and there's a alot of garbage on it I need to clean up. Would also like to update the ram on it. Just a note if you do eventually upgrade any ram on your macs, don't bother buying apple ram chips as they're unnecessarily expensive. There are third party chips just as good for a lot less. I guess when you go about purchasing a computer you have to ask yourself what you want to do with it. If it's basically just for looking up internet stuff I'd recommend mac's just because you have to screw around with the OS a lot less. If you're going to be using it to run some hardcore programs I suppose windoze is the way to go as there's just more support for everything, plus more programs available. Once you start buying apple products it's easy to get sucked into buying more apple crap, but it's not always the best solution. I guess what I'm trying to say is Apple is not the be all to end all of computers and hardware that some people make it out to be, or that apple likes to profess it is. They haven't really done a major upgrade to the OS in years, snow leopard and now lion, are IMO nothing more than firmware upgrades to OSX packaged as a new OS release. Any other device that regularly upgrades its firmware just gives it to you, with apple you gotta pay for it. I've seen them charge for firmware upgrades for the Ipod Touch and Iphone as well in the past and that just rubs me the wrong way.
I'd kinda be interested to see how people are using their computers in relation to carpentry/woodworking. What programs are people using and how do you feel they benefit your work?
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Does any 1 know how much that CNC actually costs??! I have been lookin round I cnt find a price I have sent the company an email! I am just to impatiant to wait for a reply lol. I want a CNC for as cheap aspossible but with a good spec this one doenst look as expensive as some other I have seen lol and does what I want it to do.
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It depends on the size you want, the shop bot is "afordable" but does not have a lot of power, if you into production routers $100K++++
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That is crap. Go here: http://www.joescnc.com/Pay for the plans so you can get on the forum and I will walk you through a 4000.00 machine that would cost you 20,000.00(or a 2500.00 machine that would cost you 10,000.00). Yes, make it yourself. You will learn a lot. My machine and most on the Joe's forum blow any Shop Bot out of the water. And the Shop Bots are not weak at all. It just depends what spindle you toss on. A 4KW spindle is more than enough and is used in industrial settings and can be put on a homemade or a Shop bot. Water cooled or Air cooled. Believe me. If you want to learn about CNC even if you do not want to build it yourself, pay the 125.00 and get on Joe's forum. In 30 days you will know a TON of information so you can make a educated decision. It will be the best 125.00 you ever spent if you are interested in CNC. |
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« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2011, 03:38 PM » |
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Wow JMB, you sure know how to spend money  or did santa bring you those toys  Interested to hear how you get on with the RO90. That Mac looks freekin cool  Woodguy |
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If its made of wood, i can make it smaller.
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« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2011, 03:46 PM » |
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Wow JMB, you sure know how to spend money or did santa bring you those toys Interested to hear how you get on with the RO90. That Mac looks freekin cool Woodguy The R090 is mint! The R150 is mint you need both! lol Best sanders I have used! In order of buying I would get the R90 then R150 but I already had the R150. R90 is small light and its really quick and dust free. I would not buy any other sander. Is that wa u wanted the hear woodguy?! lol! JMB |
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« Reply #37 on: January 01, 2011, 03:55 PM » |
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Err, NO. I prob want one now  Not to fussed on the vac sys, had a demo of one & although it was impressive i think it is too expencive for the limited times i would use it. |
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« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2011, 04:08 PM » |
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Hey Woodguy If you were in the same situation as JMB, (no wife, ex-wifes, kids, mortgage, household bills, etc,etc,) then you could perhaps afford it all as well! I'm looking at the RO90 as well, but like you probably cant afford it yet. I wonder which one of us will weaken first.  |
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« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2011, 04:43 PM » |
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Hey Woodguy If you were in the same situation as JMB, (no wife, ex-wifes, kids, mortgage, household bills, etc,etc,) then you could perhaps afford it all as well! I'm looking at the RO90 as well, but like you probably cant afford it yet. I wonder which one of us will weaken first.  I love how you added ex wife S. Alan: I agree I wont use the Vac loads but I think if I get use to using it (when I finally have the workshop) I might use it more and more! Im not one for clamping things down I tend to work with out clamps till I realise I do need to clamp it down lol! Its my lazy clamp replacement really! JMB |
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« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2011, 05:08 PM » |
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JMB
I'm just using the simple ventri-vac ($70.00 CDN) from Leevalley and now that its up and running I use it all the time. Its great for panels large and small - sanding, routing and domino. Largest panel so far 72 x 20. Even use it for board stock, but has to be 3" and over. The more you use it the more uses you'll find.
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« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2011, 05:13 PM » |
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JMB
I'm just using the simple ventri-vac ($70.00 CDN) from Leevalley and now that its up and running I use it all the time. Its great for panels large and small - sanding, routing and domino. Largest panel so far 72 x 20. Even use it for board stock, but has to be 3" and over. The more you use it the more uses you'll find.
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YES! lol Just wa I was hoping! More ill use it more uses ill find! Good to hear it from some else so I have not waisted my money lol! JMB |
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« Reply #42 on: January 02, 2011, 02:40 PM » |
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My Verdict about apple! I hate them!
Im kinda regretting buying the Imac some 1 needs to punch some sense into apple and stop dem trying to create their own little world by them selfs.
1. I wanted to plug my Imac into my 42inch flat screen TV in the kitchen. I thought it would b simple enough! I could play movies through the TV no problem! NO! I found out it has a strange Out Display port. Its kinda DVI but it aint they have made their own DVI which is just Digital and not Digital/analogue or something like that. So I need a adapter! Which converts it into a standard DVI then I then a DVI/HDMI to go into my TV but DVI does not transfers sound so I need a cable for sound aswell! WHY WHY WHY!!!!! Why could they not just have a HDMI output?! or atleast just a normal DVI why be different to the rest of the world?! So now I need to buy a adapter for Imac crap port to DVI and then a DVI to HDMI cable.
2. I have an old hard drive which is firewire! I thought ill copy everything from that onto the Imac tonight! Well I find out it has not got a standard fire wire! It aint even a small one its a square one I aint never seen a square firewire port. Only a rectangle or really small one. Well I aint got a cable to fit that so I now need to go out and buy a firewire cable to fit the Imac crap firewire port to normal firewire.
I am surprised they didnt alter the USB ports so you have to buy adapters for that.
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« Reply #43 on: January 02, 2011, 02:46 PM » |
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Yea but they want you to buy the apple tv, the apple web adapter, think of all that extra $$ they just made off of you!
Those are the reason's I have not gone to apple... If I had more time Linux would be "fun" but I work long days and want to ride my bike NOT write code.
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« Reply #44 on: January 02, 2011, 02:48 PM » |
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JMB,
You should have done a little research before rushing out to buy the iMac. Although it might just be rumors the new models that are about to come out might be getting HDMI. Those ports are miniDV which is an industry standard. Look at the current video cards. That's what they have. Allows for more room inside and a compact overall size to your system. There are miniDV to HDMI adapters so you don't have to string together different ones.
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« Reply #45 on: January 02, 2011, 02:52 PM » |
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Well I find out it has not got a standard fire wire! It aint even a small one its a square one I aint never seen a square firewire port. Only a rectangle or really small one.
JMB, It sounds as though your iMac has firewire 800 ports, ie a faster version of the firewire 400 on your old disk. Just a newer and faster standard - an adaptor cable will sort it! John |
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« Reply #46 on: January 02, 2011, 02:54 PM » |
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« Reply #47 on: January 02, 2011, 03:02 PM » |
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JMB,
You should have done a little research before rushing out to buy the iMac. Although it might just be rumors the new models that are about to come out might be getting HDMI. Those ports are miniDV which is an industry standard. Look at the current video cards. That's what they have. Allows for more room inside and a compact overall size to your system. There are miniDV to HDMI adapters so you don't have to string together different ones.
This is what I need either the second adapter on this page or the 3rd! The second looks the best as I can use a standard HDMI and bot sound and video will go into my TV. My TV has 3 HDMI but if I turn the HDMI on how do I get sound into my TV if I just used a DVI? As I cnt see a sound input which will turn on at the same time when I select HDMI 1 or 2 or 3? Only with Component or VGA or am I wrong and if I still use a sound input for the VGA or componet sound will still come come out of the speakers even when I select HDMI on my tv? http://bindapple.com/how-to-connect-imac-to-a-tv/JMB |
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« Reply #48 on: January 02, 2011, 03:13 PM » |
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JMB,
You should have done a little research before rushing out to buy the iMac. Although it might just be rumors the new models that are about to come out might be getting HDMI. Those ports are miniDV which is an industry standard. Look at the current video cards. That's what they have. Allows for more room inside and a compact overall size to your system. There are miniDV to HDMI adapters so you don't have to string together different ones.
I see! I looked for display ports! I been reading loads people buying this saying wont work cus it wont transfer analogue and stuff like that. I dont know! I just know I have to buy more cables! and I think this one is the best for me! http://www.kanexlive.com/products/iAdapt51.htmlApple only do a mini display port to VGA or DVI so they wont be getting any money of me! Im getting the Kanex ! haahahaha!! JMB |
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« Reply #50 on: January 02, 2011, 03:24 PM » |
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I have calmed down now woodguy! I took your advice! It cus I have like 5 HDMI cables already I thought I had all the cables I needed for the job I never really looked what I needed. Just I was thinking I was going to do all this 2 nite but found my self not being able to do anything now but chatting on FOG and Moaning! lol Any way! lol I found this cable it claims Improved with Audio? So can the mini displayport output sound?!?!?! http://www.amazon.co.uk/DisplayPort-Adapter-Converter-Cablesson®-Unibody/dp/B002WSM2N6/ref=pd_cp_computers_2 JMB |
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« Reply #51 on: January 02, 2011, 03:30 PM » |
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Hi JMB Re CNC, have a look at this site http://www.cnc-step.de/ I don't know what size you want to go up to but for smaller working areas e.g. 1m they are a pretty good deal (about GBP2.5k) and high quality. I am about to take the the plung, as good for smaller work, and also good for makign jigs for larger stuff (I think there S series with 0.02mm accuracy will do me just fine). They have a reseller in NI http://www.prototools.co.uk/I also got the VAC-SYS and love it, mainly for quick thinks like clamping bits for use with the domino, sanding etc. It deserves a permanent set-up, and then just becomes like a super fast vice, without leaving any marks on the wood. I got the kit with the addition suctions cups which do come in use |
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Just get something like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/DisplayPort-HDMI-Adapter-Display-Port/dp/B0027HYK7S/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1293996686&sr=1-2and don't get sucked into the bullshit around cable quality. I have seen people spending £100+ on HDMI cables, but its pretty simple, its all digital, so it either works or doesn't, a £10 cable will work just as well as a £100, its not like the old analogue days where it did make a bigger difference. Bigger isue with digital is more to due with the synching and accuracy of the timers in the digital components. For speaker cable etc those since it analogue the cable quality does make a big difference |
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« Reply #53 on: January 02, 2011, 03:41 PM » |
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Hi JMB Re CNC, have a look at this site http://www.cnc-step.de/ I don't know what size you want to go up to but for smaller working areas e.g. 1m they are a pretty good deal (about GBP2.5k) and high quality. I am about to take the the plung, as good for smaller work, and also good for makign jigs for larger stuff (I think there S series with 0.02mm accuracy will do me just fine). They have a reseller in NI http://www.prototools.co.uk/I also got the VAC-SYS and love it, mainly for quick thinks like clamping bits for use with the domino, sanding etc. It deserves a permanent set-up, and then just becomes like a super fast vice, without leaving any marks on the wood. I got the kit with the addition suctions cups which do come in use Thank you! But I am looking for a minimum size of 8'x4' I would like a larger one but I can not afford that so as long as it can take 8'x4' sheets of MDF or ply + auto 0 for tools + auto tool change + Vacuum base + circular saw + more lol This is what I am interested in I spoke to the company the other week I told him what I wanted to do and everything and what I wanted and he recommend the Nested base which comes with everything I want on it! http://www.multicam.com/eng/Products/nestedbase.html |
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« Reply #54 on: January 02, 2011, 03:45 PM » |
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Just get something like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/DisplayPort-HDMI-Adapter-Display-Port/dp/B0027HYK7S/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1293996686&sr=1-2and don't get sucked into the bullshit around cable quality. I have seen people spending £100+ on HDMI cables, but its pretty simple, its all digital, so it either works or doesn't, a £10 cable will work just as well as a £100, its not like the old analogue days where it did make a bigger difference. Bigger isue with digital is more to due with the synching and accuracy of the timers in the digital components. For speaker cable etc those since it analogue the cable quality does make a big difference Yeah I know I have one 60quid HMDI which is only 1meter and the rest only cost me like 15 and they are 2 or 3 meters and I can see no difference. No wa I am saying is does the Minidisplay output sound?! So either the one you just showed me will that play sound or would I need this one because it plugs into the audio output for sound going through the HDMI. The usb is power supply apparently I dont know why it need power. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kanex-iAdapt-DisplayPort-Adapter-Toslink/dp/B0031QH1BGI am just confused to why one needs to use the headphones for sound and the others dont. |
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Ah well why not stick with another great tool brand like Festool and go with Felder ( http://www.felder-group.com/fg-en/video.html) they will do the CNC you need no probs. Just joking, their machines are at the very high end.. and what you are looking for is much more advanced than me, but will look forward to seeing the pictures of your purchase whatever you choose! |
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Yeah I know I have one 60quid HMDI which is only 1meter and the rest only cost me like 15 and they are 2 or 3 meters and I can see no difference. No wa I am saying is does the Minidisplay output sound?! So either the one you just showed me will that play sound or would I need this one because it plugs into the audio output for sound going through the HDMI. The usb is power supply apparently I dont know why it need power. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kanex-iAdapt-DisplayPort-Adapter-Toslink/dp/B0031QH1BGI am just confused to why one needs to use the headphones for sound and the others dont. Have a look at this, I think its a helpful explanation, but in short, the PC/Mac should detect the HDMI adapter and output HMDI compliant data stream via the displayport inc audio http://www.displayport.org/consumer/?q=content/faq |
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Ah well why not stick with another great tool brand like Festool and go with Felder ( http://www.felder-group.com/fg-en/video.html) they will do the CNC you need no probs. Just joking, their machines are at the very high end.. and what you are looking for is much more advanced than me, but will look forward to seeing the pictures of your purchase whatever you choose! haahaa! Yeah have looked at dem wishing I could afford a felder!I have been look at loads of videos! Then I found multi cam and they looked reasonable priced What would that felder cost 200k?  jmb |
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Yeah I know I have one 60quid HMDI which is only 1meter and the rest only cost me like 15 and they are 2 or 3 meters and I can see no difference. No wa I am saying is does the Minidisplay output sound?! So either the one you just showed me will that play sound or would I need this one because it plugs into the audio output for sound going through the HDMI. The usb is power supply apparently I dont know why it need power. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kanex-iAdapt-DisplayPort-Adapter-Toslink/dp/B0031QH1BGI am just confused to why one needs to use the headphones for sound and the others dont. Have a look at this, I think its a helpful explanation, but in short, the PC/Mac should detect the HDMI adapter and output HMDI compliant data stream via the displayport inc audio http://www.displayport.org/consumer/?q=content/faqA! Thank you very much! I read all of it! I now need to know if the Imac 27' have enabled sound through the display port as it stats on that link you sent me that it does support sound but its up to the manufacture of the company if they have enabled sound. he says on the video it does not support sound?!?!? jmb |
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