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Offline L66

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Kapex 120 EB or UG set
« on: June 11, 2016, 06:49 PM »
Evening

Pretty sure I am going to buy a Kapex next week.  It will mostly be in my workshop, but I am currently renovating a house and will use it for all the internal finishing joinery.  I have a CT vac and an ever expanding Festool collection.  It will be a significant upgrade from the makita LF1000 flip over saw I am currently using.

Swaying towards the EB set as it will mostly be in my workshop and I can perhaps utilise the MFT for other applications. Advice, opinions and recommendations please. 

Thanks

Ian

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Offline Kev

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Re: Kapex 120 EB or UG set
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2016, 07:19 PM »
My KAPEX never leaves it's UG cart. Plus if it's going to live in your workshop, you'll rarely have the KAPEX off the MFT.

Remember the MFT for the KAPEX is lower than the MFT/3.

For portable use I really like the UG cart and extensions and the extensions are great to use as in-feed and out-feed for the rest of the Festool system.

Offline Doug S

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Re: Kapex 120 EB or UG set
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2016, 07:33 PM »
The UG cart and wings are great, can't recommend them enough. Work perfectly for me.

Doug

Offline Gregor

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Re: Kapex 120 EB or UG set
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2016, 11:12 AM »
UG cart is the way to go should you ever want to use your kapex onsite, it also works without problems in the shop.

The UG wings can also be used on CMS as in/outfeeds or supporting longer stock on MFT/3 since they also attach to the rails of them (which the EB ones don't).


Offline Birdhunter

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Re: Kapex 120 EB or UG set
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2016, 12:30 PM »
My Kapex has never left the UG. The Festool vac with the short wider hose fits just under the Kapex.
Birdhunter

Offline Norfolk Bean

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Re: Kapex 120 EB or UG set
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2016, 03:27 PM »
Hi,

UG stand and wings for me on my Kapex, my only regret is not buying them sooner.

Cheers,

Mark.

Offline L66

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Re: Kapex 120 EB or UG set
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2016, 04:56 PM »
Thanks for all the replies.

I wonder why no one has the EB setup.  I was swaying more towards it, but will have to look again.  It looked like a more robust setup, but no dealer near me has either on display...

Ian

Offline Birdhunter

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Re: Kapex 120 EB or UG set
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2016, 05:53 PM »
I'm sure some people do choose the EB over the UG. For me, the UG provides a stable support for my Kapex while providing mobility when I need it.
Birdhunter

Offline Frank-Jan

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Re: Kapex 120 EB or UG set
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2016, 06:55 PM »
I have my eb set since 2007. (at the time the UG set didn't exist).
The extensionwings for the eb set are the same as the trimstops for the CS70 saw (which I already owned) and can also be used with the mft3 table (there's a slot in the back that fits the protractor instead of the standard fence).

Not long after I got it, I ordered extra support brackets, this made the stand a lot more practical; In the standard setup it was a real pain to keep the stock supported if you wanted to make multiple cuts out of a long profile. With the extra brackets installed I have no real need for the continuous support the UG wings offer. (You can find the partnumbers on the ekat site, the price isn't high (the extra brackets I ordered for my dewalt stand to fix the same issue costed about 6x more) I got 2 but 4 would be ideal.245784-0

When the stand was introduced in the US (It has since been discontinued in the US) ,they added extra struts to keep the wings in line (before, they could easily be knocked out of allignment if you bumped into it. (I ordered those aswell, but I did modify them a bit; I changed the holes into slots with a small anglegrinder, so I could leave the wingnut installed.245789-1

When I need to bring the stand to work, I leave the crownstops, brackets, flipstops etc. attached, I only remove the legs, and the struts and I made a very basic tote to carry all the parts. (old pictures, I added some clips for the struts and a place for the mft-bolts and plastic bits)245791-2
 (If you leave the crownstops attached to the wings, there's no need to recalibrate the tapemeasure (which is super easy anyway)

There are a lot of advantages of the UG stand over the EB version. (Price, ease of setup (one fold-out leg per side vs 2 that need to be slid in and out of a pipeclamp) , ease of transport (you can roll the kapex and the wings and probably even the vaccuum in one go), continuous support of the workpiece, I think you can slide out the upper part of the kapexfence for bevelcuts with the stand installed, can be used as in-/out-feed for mft3 or cms.

There are also some advantages to the EB stand: the crownstops can also be used as an extra guide for narrow stock, the groove in the crownstop can be used with railclamps to have an extra holddown clamp; Allthough not continuous, the supports are wider than the UG, the flipstops are also wider, so you can place the fence a bit further back (usefull if the wood you're cutting is a bit bowed, so it's easier to push it flat against the fence of the kapex). I think that once setup, it's also a bit more stable with the mft and the double legs.
And somehow I think that transporting the kapex vertically isn't ideal for keeping it calibrated.

Finish carpentry is only a small part of the work I do, so I don't need to transport my kapex a lot, so I haven't gotten the UG stand.

/edit: It took me way too long to type this post, and I hope it finally gets through, I removed the attachments, and I'll try to add them later.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2016, 07:40 PM by Frank-Jan »

Offline ScotF

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Re: Kapex 120 EB or UG set
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2016, 10:16 PM »
I use my Kapex on the Kapex MFT and also use the UG extensions -- so it is kind of a EB/UG hybrid. The other extensions are no longer available in North America. The UG extensions are great and since I do not need to transport my Kapex much out of the shop, the Kapex MFT is a better set-up for me. I like it very much.

Offline stwan

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Re: Kapex 120 EB or UG set
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2017, 04:24 PM »
I was just about to order the EB, but have now changed my mind to the UG due to all your great inputs  :). Thanks, you even saved me some money.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2017, 04:27 PM by stwan »