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Offline builderbob

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #60 on: February 15, 2010, 10:08 PM »
I used to have the dewalt stand when it was first released and began to have issues with the arms dropping in height when extended but when retracted they would sit coplanar with my scms.  i stopped using that stand when i purchased my Kapex and purchased the mft/3 kapex.  i like the setup in a stationary workshop, but i do a lot of shorter term projects that require site setup. 

if you can view the photo that i attached, i recently purchased the bosch gravity rise t4b and i use that stand in conjunction with the kapex extensions.  i will post better photos tomorrow as my saw is on site at the moment.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #61 on: February 15, 2010, 10:32 PM »
Daaaaaum, 4 bills for the gravity rise stand and 7 bennys for the extensions and you still have the mft/3 kapex.

Feel free to send me any extra money you find laying around.

I like that bosch stand a lot.  I like the one for my portable table saw.  The only problem is the amount of room
they take up.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #62 on: February 15, 2010, 10:49 PM »
if i remember correctly, i paid around $320 or so for the t4b.  i really want/wanted a set of sawhelpers, but didn't jump when i considered it years ago.  i know it is an expensive setup, but this is my day to day...everyday.

this breaks down pretty well in terms of size and setup is fairly speedy.  ultimately, i am pleased...lets just see if festool releases a mobile standv [wink]
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #63 on: February 15, 2010, 10:53 PM »
I lug that saw around every day too.  It is one the main ingredients in my process of bringing home the bacon.

I still want to put wheels on my kapex mft/3.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #64 on: February 15, 2010, 10:57 PM »
i had no problems with carrying around the mft/3 kapex...i was looking for ease of setup (fences) to get continual repeatability.  the kapex extensions might've been overkill, but i had the jing at the time and had already tried playing with melamine and the kreg fences and wasn't happy with that option either.
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #65 on: February 16, 2010, 12:07 AM »
I hate my Bosch stand! Those air tires are always low on air... Very frustrating!

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #66 on: March 04, 2010, 01:28 PM »
I'm reviving a dead thread to show the modifications I have done to my DW 723 stand. 


I just bought the stand this week, and still have to finalize the attachment of the rail to the stand.  I had an extra 1400 rail sitting around, and bought $50 worth of extrusion from Rockler.  They have a sale on L brackets ($0.99/pair) which I used to attach the extrusion to the rail and the t-slot in my crown extension. 

Super ghetto compared to Forrest's setup with the Kapex extensions ( want pics!), but the price was right.  Now I need to modify the production stop and add a tape. 

Anyone else have some tricked out mods to show off?


I noticed on your kapex you have a bit of plastic with two screws  attching it to the kapex near the center and then it comes out and is infront of the bolt which losens the blade what is that plastic bit for? I havnt got that on my kapex well I didnt notice it any way Im goin to have a look next time.
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #67 on: March 04, 2010, 01:38 PM »

I noticed on your kapex you have a bit of plastic with two screws  attching it to the kapex near the center and then it comes out and is infront of the bolt which losens the blade what is that plastic bit for? I havnt got that on my kapex well I didnt notice it any way Im goin to have a look next time.

The addition of this item may be dependant on where the saw was bought (UK saws don't seem to have it, whilst USA saws generally do). My saw, dated 2007 and bought in the UK, doesn't have it.

See jonny round boy's post in the thread Kapex base is not level for a mention of it, where it's referred to as the "arbor bolt guard". There are also photos of saws which have it and of those which don't.
 
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #68 on: March 04, 2010, 02:04 PM »

I noticed on your kapex you have a bit of plastic with two screws  attching it to the kapex near the center and then it comes out and is infront of the bolt which losens the blade what is that plastic bit for? I havnt got that on my kapex well I didnt notice it any way Im goin to have a look next time.

The addition of this item may be dependant on where the saw was bought (UK saws don't seem to have it, whilst USA saws generally do). My saw, dated 2007 and bought in the UK, doesn't have it.

See jonny round boy's post in the thread Kapex base is not level for a mention of it, where it's referred to as the "arbor bold guard". There are also photos of saws which have it and of those which don't.
 
Forrest

Forrest is right.  It's required in the US for UL approval.  It's a safety mechanism.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #69 on: March 04, 2010, 07:30 PM »

Forrest is right.  It's required in the US for UL approval.  It's a safety mechanism.

What kind of danger is that little bit of plastic going to save me from?

I have yet to have an arbor bolt free itself from a saw and come shooting at my head.

I am not so sure about those UL guys [scratch chin]

I guess we are from the land of suing because our coffee was too hot or our ice cream was too cold. [big grin]

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #70 on: March 04, 2010, 07:47 PM »
Darcy,

There is a new lawsuit coming.  Someone bit into a piece of hot fried chicken and grease splattered on him and burnt him.


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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #71 on: March 04, 2010, 08:03 PM »
Darcy,

There is a new lawsuit coming.  Someone bit into a piece of hot fried chicken and grease splattered on him and burnt him.



I don't understand people that sue for things as mentioned in the previous posts.

I am a smart enough person to know where I shouldn't put my hands, where I shouldn't stand or whether or not my food was
supposed to be hot.  I guess people really can sue for not having any common sense.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #72 on: March 04, 2010, 08:17 PM »
There is a new lawsuit coming.  Someone bit into a piece of hot fried chicken and grease splattered on him and burnt him.

That's it!  It's a dental guard over the arbor bolt to make sure you don't try to eat it.  [scared]

UL comes up with some interesting requirements for sure.

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #73 on: March 04, 2010, 09:17 PM »

Forrest is right.  It's required in the US for UL approval.  It's a safety mechanism.

What kind of danger is that little bit of plastic going to save me from?

I have yet to have an arbor bolt free itself from a saw and come shooting at my head....


The guard prevents the bolt from coming out far enough for the blade to come completely off the arbor. This, in theory, would prevent the blade from shooting at your head in the unlikely event the bolt came loose. 
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #74 on: March 04, 2010, 10:58 PM »
If you want another stand to look at for attaching your Kapex to, look over the Rousseau Miter Stand. This stand has has really impressed me with it's adaptability to the different brand of saws on the market. I purchased one several years ago and haven't regretted the purchase at all. Mobility is unsurpassed especially with the extend and collapsible wings with the fence built to it. This cart is very user friendly for the woodworker.   

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #75 on: November 19, 2010, 11:59 PM »
If you want another stand to look at for attaching your Kapex to, look over the Rousseau Miter Stand. This stand has has really impressed me with it's adaptability to the different brand of saws on the market. I purchased one several years ago and haven't regretted the purchase at all. Mobility is unsurpassed especially with the extend and collapsible wings with the fence built to it. This cart is very user friendly for the woodworker.   

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #77 on: November 20, 2010, 10:55 AM »
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #78 on: November 02, 2014, 10:01 AM »
I plan to mount my kapex on a dewalt stand (the smaller stand size). Does the dewalt come with the necessary bolts to mount the kapex?  If not, what bolts are you guys using to mount the kapex to the dewalt brackets?

Any special instructions for getting it to mount?
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #79 on: November 02, 2014, 11:58 AM »
I plan to mount my kapex on a dewalt stand (the smaller stand size). Does the dewalt come with the necessary bolts to mount the kapex?  If not, what bolts are you guys using to mount the kapex to the dewalt brackets?

Any special instructions for getting it to mount?

Hi Grashopper, I recently did the exact same thing.
My motives were that I wanted better portability than the MFT Kapex and I wanted it to have a more "airy" feel.

Anyway, here's a few of my experiences mounting it to the small DeWalt stand:
- Everything you need to mount a Kapex should come with the stand. Here's what came with mine. (I actually didn't use any of the included hardware though)

- The DeWalt mounting brackets come with 6 and 8mm bolts. The slots on the DeWalt mounting brackets are 8mm. The holes on the Kapex are 6mm. 4x M6 35mm bolts are included.

- When you just mount the Kapex on to the DeWalt brackets you'll notice the legs of the stand will be away from the wall. I wanted it so that both the stand and the back of the Kapex were right against the wall (for maximum space savings). I therefore put the Kapex on a board of 18mm MDF (66cm wide x 61cm deep).


I then put the saw stand right against the wall and positioned the MDF board on to the DeWalt mounting brackets to mark my drill holes. I did some measuring and used threaded inserts for clean and easy mounting of the saw to the board/stand.


The end result is this:


It turned out great. It's stable, the footprint is pretty minimal and I like the weight and portability.
Hope this was helpful to you.
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #80 on: November 02, 2014, 05:48 PM »
Jonathan M,

SUPER POST!  Thanks for the thorough response.  Very helpful indeed. (Above and beyond with pictures, etc)

I will look harder in my garage for the Dewalt hardware.

I may end up making a mounting plate as you did.



I plan to mount my kapex on a dewalt stand (the smaller stand size). Does the dewalt come with the necessary bolts to mount the kapex?  If not, what bolts are you guys using to mount the kapex to the dewalt brackets?

Any special instructions for getting it to mount?

Hi Grashopper, I recently did the exact same thing.
My motives were that I wanted better portability than the MFT Kapex and I wanted it to have a more "airy" feel.

Anyway, here's a few of my experiences mounting it to the small DeWalt stand:
- Everything you need to mount a Kapex should come with the stand. Here's what came with mine. (I actually didn't use any of the included hardware though)
(Attachment Link)
- The DeWalt mounting brackets come with 6 and 8mm bolts. The slots on the DeWalt mounting brackets are 8mm. The holes on the Kapex are 6mm. 4x M6 35mm bolts are included.

- When you just mount the Kapex on to the DeWalt brackets you'll notice the legs of the stand will be away from the wall. I wanted it so that both the stand and the back of the Kapex were right against the wall (for maximum space savings). I therefore put the Kapex on a board of 18mm MDF (66cm wide x 61cm deep).
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)

I then put the saw stand right against the wall and positioned the MDF board on to the DeWalt mounting brackets to mark my drill holes. I did some measuring and used threaded inserts for clean and easy mounting of the saw to the board/stand.
(Attachment Link)

The end result is this:
(Attachment Link)

It turned out great. It's stable, the footprint is pretty minimal and I like the weight and portability.
Hope this was helpful to you.
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #81 on: November 22, 2014, 07:24 PM »
Thanks again for the advice.

Thought I'd share my Dewalt stand supporting my Kapex. 

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #82 on: November 22, 2014, 08:08 PM »
Thanks again for the advice.

Thought I'd share my Dewalt stand supporting my Kapex. 

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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #83 on: January 03, 2015, 10:18 PM »
Thanks again for the advice.

Thought I'd share my Dewalt stand supporting my Kapex. 

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ahhah thats sooo wrong but looks soo right...nice [big grin]
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #84 on: January 04, 2015, 02:15 AM »
 ;D

Thanks again for the advice.

Thought I'd share my Dewalt stand supporting my Kapex. 

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you rascal!!!

Thanks again for the advice.

Thought I'd share my Dewalt stand supporting my Kapex. 

(Attachment Link)

ahhah thats sooo wrong but looks soo right...nice [big grin]
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #85 on: January 04, 2015, 05:28 AM »
Grasshopper, that paint job turned out great!
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #86 on: January 04, 2015, 09:18 AM »
I think I might steal you paint job idea for myself.
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #87 on: January 05, 2015, 02:32 PM »
Sounds good.  I will try and locate the can of spray-paint I used.  The color was perfect festal green.

I think I might steal you paint job idea for myself.
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Re: Kapex & Dewalt Stand
« Reply #88 on: April 10, 2018, 04:50 PM »



Hi Grashopper, I recently did the exact same thing.
My motives were that I wanted better portability than the MFT Kapex and I wanted it to have a more "airy" feel.


@jonathan-m thanks for posting your Dewalt, Kapex and UG stuff above. I have 2 DeWalt stands and just picked up a Kapex and the wings. I'm sure I read in another post (can't find it now!) that you shortened the legs of the stand... now here's the million dollar question... can you remember by exactly how much? With the legs at and angle and the plastic feet adding their own bit of height into the equation my brain is hurting a bit trying to figure out how much to cut off the legs themselves. By my calculations for my setup (Kapex on 18mm MDF board on the Dewalt brackets) it needs to drop 70mm vertically, but that's as far as I've got. No worries if it's a long forgotten memory, I'm just hoping to save a lot of trial and error zeroing in on it and taking the legs off and on 20 times :/

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