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Offline DustyTools

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Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« on: February 25, 2019, 05:58 PM »
Just an FYI, mostly for people who search the forums for this answer.

You can buy the metric parts for US purchased Imperial tools directly from Festools (888 337 8600). I have just purchased:

462622                     Metric scales for OF1400 (this is apparently the older code but they found the newer version)
701458                     Metric scale for Domino 500 (I don't have this tool yet but I know it's in my future :))
10001569                 Metric scale for TS55

$29.93 for all three.

I hope this is helpful to others.

Ben

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Offline Rich Kline

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2019, 07:19 PM »
Thanks Ben!  You read my mind!

Offline dlu

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2019, 01:22 AM »
For whatever it is worth, the router scales were gratis when I got them (within the last two years).

Offline DustyTools

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2019, 02:41 AM »
Yeah I did try to get it for free but they didn’t budge!


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Offline DustyTools

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2019, 02:41 AM »
Thanks Ben!  You read my mind!
You’re welcome


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Offline RKA

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2019, 05:20 AM »
For whatever it is worth, the router scales were gratis when I got them (within the last two years).

Yes, I pointed them to the thread posted here (when imperial was first announced) that indicated their policy would be to offer the router scales for free.  Home office was not aware of this policy or the online form indicated.  See reply 351 in the thread (page 12 for me).

http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-tools-accessories/festool-is-(partially)-moving-to-imperial-in-north-america/330/
-Raj

Offline gdjenkins10

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2019, 03:16 PM »
I just got off the phone with them and scale alone is nolonger available.  Have to change entire housing is what technician told the young lady I was speaking with.  I only asked for the one for OF 1400 model 574692.  They said 462622 was correct part number for me and there was nothing available on substitution parts list.  Everyone else seems to be doing better at getting options.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2019, 03:43 PM by gdjenkins10 »
Regards
Gary

Offline Rich Kline

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2019, 03:34 PM »
Well, I made some progress.  A super nice customer service person is sending me two parts for no charge.

10019131     new part # for the metal metric scale for the OF 1400 (sticky back)
704937 part # for a "sticker" for the TS55 metric scale (not sure how hard this is to position)

I wasn't going to post until stuff showed up, but it sounds like people are getting different answers...

She did mention the $75 option of shipping the saw to them.  It also looks like there are two screws that could be removed to take out the entire black piece of the TS55, but I don't think that's what I'm getting.  Although it kinda looks user serviceable.     [unsure]

Rich

Offline DustyTools

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2019, 03:42 PM »
Well, I made some progress.  A super nice customer service person is sending me two parts for no charge.

10019131     new part # for the metal metric scale for the OF 1400 (sticky back)
704937 part # for a "sticker" for the TS55 metric scale (not sure how hard this is to position)

I wasn't going to post until stuff showed up, but it sounds like people are getting different answers...

She did mention the $75 option of shipping the saw to them.  It also looks like there are two screws that could be removed to take out the entire black piece of the TS55, but I don't think that's what I'm getting.  Although it kinda looks user serviceable.     [unsure]

Rich

Grrr. Looks like I was too nice! That said $30 is a drop in the ocean when it comes to buying Festools!

Offline Rich Kline

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2019, 03:45 PM »
It's possible your entire charge was for the Domino.  I was lucky enough to have a metric version, but if they send you both the metal scale and the clear plastic scale there's some value there.   :-)

Offline DustyTools

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2019, 03:53 PM »
It's possible your entire charge was for the Domino.  I was lucky enough to have a metric version, but if they send you both the metal scale and the clear plastic scale there's some value there.   :-)

True and I might be getting an entire piece for the TS55, not just a label...

Offline Rich Kline

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2019, 03:55 PM »
I'll update this thread when my stuff arrives.  Please do the same.

Offline DeformedTree

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2019, 09:16 PM »
Can someone explain the Domino, I didn't know Inch-ing had occurred there.  That makes even less sense than the others if true.

If Festool is making changes where part swaps aren't even possible, that's even more disturbing. Does this mean the fundamental router is now different than the Europe model?  How many parts do people now need to smuggle into the country to fix their machines?

Offline dlu

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2019, 09:35 PM »
Does this mean the fundamental router is now different than the Europe model?  How many parts do people now need to smuggle into the country to fix their machines?

At least as recently as last fall, the US routers were identical to the metric ones, save for the coarse depth scale - which is easily changed and used to be (and maybe still is) available gratis from Festool US. The fine adjustment scale is still metric - even on the US version.

Offline Cheese

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2019, 09:50 PM »
Can someone explain the Domino, I didn't know Inch-ing had occurred there.  That makes even less sense than the others if true.

It’s my understanding that the Domino will remain metric...because the Dominos themselves are metric.

Offline DeformedTree

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2019, 12:05 AM »
Can someone explain the Domino, I didn't know Inch-ing had occurred there.  That makes even less sense than the others if true.

It’s my understanding that the Domino will remain metric...because the Dominos themselves are metric.

That was my understanding too, so I don't understand what parts were being ordered to make the domino metric.

Offline DeformedTree

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2019, 12:13 AM »
Does this mean the fundamental router is now different than the Europe model?  How many parts do people now need to smuggle into the country to fix their machines?

At least as recently as last fall, the US routers were identical to the metric ones, save for the coarse depth scale - which is easily changed and used to be (and maybe still is) available gratis from Festool US. The fine adjustment scale is still metric - even on the US version.

Where I was going with this is if Festool is saying we can't have a metric scale because of a change to the body of the router, that would imply the body of the router in the US is now different than the rest of the world. If there has been a design change to the router, then this should be with the metric unit too, thus a part should exist to make a US inch router metric too, it might just be a different part number than it was previously. I really hope there isn't a Darwinian split going on that once tools got inch labels, they began to evolve separately and now are unique species no longer able to mate with metric tools.

Offline RKA

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2019, 06:14 AM »
Can someone explain the Domino, I didn't know Inch-ing had occurred there.  That makes even less sense than the others if true.

It’s my understanding that the Domino will remain metric...because the Dominos themselves are metric.

That was my understanding too, so I don't understand what parts were being ordered to make the domino metric.

It wouldn’t surprise me if they made the fence height gauge imperial.  It’s purpose is to help you center the cutter on the edge of your stock (which is known in imperial units).  The depth gauge won’t change since it relates to the dominos and there is no chance they will create imperial domino stock.  What makes it all half-baked is when you explain which metric domino works well for each board thickness. Rule of thirds is great, but now they need a chart or calculator.  It’s not a problem for those of us that live in both worlds but for the metric-blind they are trying to appeal to, it’s odd.
-Raj

Offline DustyTools

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2019, 08:17 PM »
I received my order today but there was a bit of a mix up with OF 1400 scale, they sent me an imperial one. It’s useful if I sell mine but I’ll have to call and get them to send me the metric one.




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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2019, 08:31 PM »
The router scale is 1/16” increments. What were they thinking?

Offline DustyTools

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2019, 08:40 PM »
The router scale is 1/16” increments. What were they thinking?

To get a metric scale


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Offline andy5405

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2019, 01:06 PM »
I will get told off for my contribution but one has to say that one is constantly amazed that the leaders of the free world still use a medieval measuring system. SI units (System Internationale), also commonly referred to as metric have been around for a while now. There are of course 2 other countries that are still Imperial, Liberia & Myanmar.

I should add that as a metric Brit I still drink pints of beer, calculate all journeys in miles and measure my willy in inches.

Kitchens, which is my thing, are all about millimetres.

Unless I buy sheet material, which I always refer to as 8x4 which is actually 2440mm x 1220mm. Plasterboard for some strange reason is 2400mm x 1200mm.

If I build a stud wall it's 3x2 or 4x2 and I have no idea what the metric size is.

Somehow I get through every day relatively unscathed.

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2019, 01:47 PM »
I received my order today but there was a bit of a mix up with OF 1400 scale, they sent me an imperial one. It’s useful if I sell mine but I’ll have to call and get them to send me the metric one.




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Same for me.  Tried to order the OF1400 metric scale, received imperial
Festool TS 55 REQ-F-PLUS
Festool OF 1400 EQ-F-PLUS
Festool CT MIDI HEPA
Festool Domino DF 500 Q-PLUS
Festool PRO 5 LTD (ETS 125 REQ)
Festool FS 1400/2 (x2)
Festool FS 1400/2-LR 32 Guide Rail
Festool LR32 Router Hole Drilling Set

Offline Rich Kline

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2019, 08:05 PM »
Ordered Metric, got Imperial.  Seems like we are all having the similar issue.

Rich


Offline DeformedTree

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Re: Metric Parts for US Imperial tools
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2019, 09:34 PM »
The Stone Cutters are working overtime to keep the Metric System Down.