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As a kitchen fitter all my woodworking is mobile, I don't have a workshop (just a bloody big van)
I tend to use a pair of fold up trestles when working but they aren't great and hence the question....
How good is the mft3 table and is it a benefit when working in people's houses as it seems a lot of money for a fold up table but as with all festool kit I'm sure I'll be proven wrong
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I guess your only an addict if you admit to your addiction!
I only popped into my local tool shop and came out a festool nut (bloody sneaky festool)
I came out with a ts55 and guide rails.............
Oh and now the list is as follows
Kapex with ug undermount
Rotex 150 sander
Dx 93 sander
Ctl 26 dust extractor
Ctl midi dust extractor
Ti 15 impact driver x 2
C15 cordless drill x 2
Cxs cordless drill
Centrotec set
Ps 400 jigsaw
Spirit levels
Of 2200 router and copying rings
Ofk 700 edge router
A few sortainers and systainers for all other tools (non festool)
As I said I only popped in the shop
Now the wife says she is a festool widow, she says it's not normal to have a festool catalogue next to the bed and recently she checked my browser history only to find nothing but festool and FOG...........
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Alan m
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2012, 04:15 PM » |
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as great as the mft is (dont have one but have a mft top on a dewalt cjop saw stand) is think a walko workbench bight be better for you. it is very veritile on site as you can use it to cut up full sheets as well as small ones. on its side it is up off the ground and can cut smaller pieces. my favorite way is folded flat and put against the wall. great for screwing things together.
althow you will have to swap positions a lot .
perswonally i think i would want both a mft and a walko
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2012, 04:18 PM » |
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for your job, definitly a walko..
mft/3 is mostly for cutting sheetgoods..
tnks..
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2012, 06:18 PM » |
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hi paddyfin I fit alot of kitchens and have a mft. If I'm in a big house usually a 10k kitchen or above I find I have room to use it mainly for infills etc. never use it for worktops (use tresles) except maybe a small piece if routing a mitre joint. it is a handy tool but is alot of money. i also put it up in my garage to use as a workbench as i haven't got the luxury of a proper workshop ( which i would love to have). If you've the cash and are truly addicted you will get one.  |
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« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2012, 06:22 PM » |
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clarification, please... what is a walko?
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2012, 06:32 PM » |
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I do a lot of kitchens and the mft has really made it easier and nicer to work. From clamping the W/tops down when routing the joints to drilling all the handles holes in all the doors. I use the mft along with 2 trestles that I got from wickes. Wickes tools are generally pony but these are made by draper but they're a lot cheaper. http://www.wickes.co.uk/invt/167430I put 22mm pipe insulation over the top bar and it brings it up to the perfect height for the mft. http://www.wickes.co.uk/invt/210012If you get some large Lin bins they clip onto the v groove on the side of the mft. That way you can put all the tools in there to free up the table top Get yourself the Lever clamps they make a lot of difference from the scre up ones. http://www.festool.co.uk/Products/Accessories/Pages/Detail.aspx?pid=491594&name=Accessories-for-guide-rails-FS-HZ-160I did look into the Walkos, nice bit of kit but if kitchen fittings your game you're probably better of with an mft. It's nice when you've got the cms set up along with the kapex and they're all at the same height (extra support). The kitchen ive just finished I had it all set up on the clients decking outside the kitchen door. I was like a pig in ####, it looked like a festool factory  Wish I'd taken a picture.. |
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« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2012, 06:42 PM » |
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Here is a link to a Walko site. http://www.walkoshop.com/en-uk/Funny I use the MFT for all kinds of things , but rarely cutting sheet goods. Though it can certainly do that with in size limits. I don't know how useful the Walko is because I don't have one and can't say compared to the MFT. But I think the MFT would certainly be very good for fitting kitchens. It is certainly good to use in houses. Pricey , yes, but one of those things that you appreciate once you put it into use. Seth |
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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2012, 06:58 PM » |
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I wouldn't be without my MFT, just bought a second one. As I recall, though, some Brits have noted that it is too large to use inside a typically small British kitchen.
The MFT does raise your work up a level. I can cut with the TS55 and the mft just as precisely as I do on my Unisaw.
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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2012, 07:09 PM » |
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I use 2 MFTs been thinking about a 3rd..
But you can always build the ultimate work bench. That might work for ya
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Alan m
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« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2012, 07:13 PM » |
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I use 2 MFTs been thinking about a 3rd..
But you can always build the ultimate work bench. That might work for ya
not in a kitchen it wont. |
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ts 55+2 1400 rails+ 1 lr32 1400 rail, domino+assortment systainer+ domiplate, ct 22 with boom arm+home made thien baffel, lr32 set, rotex 150, home made MFT,home made work center, 6 t locs for other tools, of2000 , ro 90, mft 800, trion , ls 130
wish list
of 1400, MFT 3,, even more t locs for other tools
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
- Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
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vkumar
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« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2012, 08:54 PM » |
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hi paddyfin I fit alot of kitchens and have a mft. If I'm in a big house usually a 10k kitchen or above I find I have room to use it mainly for infills etc. never use it for worktops (use tresles) except maybe a small piece if routing a mitre joint. it is a handy tool but is alot of money. i also put it up in my garage to use as a workbench as i haven't got the luxury of a proper workshop ( which i would love to have). If you've the cash and are truly addicted you will get one. Translation please what is a 10k kitchen or above? (10k square feet--no, 10k pounds maybe) Vijay |
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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2012, 08:53 AM » |
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10000 pounds sterling . people who spend that much or above normally have a big house.
The walko looks good , does anyone know who stock them so i can have a butchers (butchers hook-cockney for look,for those across the pond)
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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2012, 12:38 PM » |
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Walko 4 totally rocks. Makes ripping sheet goods a breeze. Then you fold it up and the Walko becomes a work station. Well thought out. That might work out well for you Paddyfin1. An mft3 is great but not to cut down sheet goods as you will need two. Or, purchase and mft3 and make your trestles work to cut down sheet goods. Good luck Paddyfin1. |
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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2012, 02:25 PM » |
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What I was thinking of was a place to cut down units, small panels, plinths etc I use my ts55 every day but some times I need a little help holding every thing hence the table with all the possible clamping possibilities Also need an easy way to rip down plinths using a long guide rail without the whole thing tipping over  |
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I guess your only an addict if you admit to your addiction!
I only popped into my local tool shop and came out a festool nut (bloody sneaky festool)
I came out with a ts55 and guide rails.............
Oh and now the list is as follows
Kapex with ug undermount
Rotex 150 sander
Dx 93 sander
Ctl 26 dust extractor
Ctl midi dust extractor
Ti 15 impact driver x 2
C15 cordless drill x 2
Cxs cordless drill
Centrotec set
Ps 400 jigsaw
Spirit levels
Of 2200 router and copying rings
Ofk 700 edge router
A few sortainers and systainers for all other tools (non festool)
As I said I only popped in the shop
Now the wife says she is a festool widow, she says it's not normal to have a festool catalogue next to the bed and recently she checked my browser history only to find nothing but festool and FOG...........
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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2012, 02:57 PM » |
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Paddy Just a suggestion for compromise, I have a Kapex MFT table which is very useful for clamping and doing general assembly, sanding, fixing, etc , etc and is a smallish footprint. Then I carry a pair of these and an old section of worktop on which to cut down, rip or handle long stuff.  |
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« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2012, 04:15 PM » |
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what do you think of those guy. i was thinking of geting those. willl the normal brackets fit them
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ts 55+2 1400 rails+ 1 lr32 1400 rail, domino+assortment systainer+ domiplate, ct 22 with boom arm+home made thien baffel, lr32 set, rotex 150, home made MFT,home made work center, 6 t locs for other tools, of2000 , ro 90, mft 800, trion , ls 130
wish list
of 1400, MFT 3,, even more t locs for other tools
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
- Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2012, 05:00 PM » |
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Alan, do you mean the Dewalt mitre saw brackets? In which case I think so.
I got them for their weight rating (450kg). I have two pairs which I can lay out in the workshop for heavy oak joinery, gates, stairs and the like.
I think if you type DeWalt 7035 into You Tube there are a couple of videos.
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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2012, 05:49 PM » |
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I use 2 MFTs been thinking about a 3rd..
But you can always build the ultimate work bench. That might work for ya
not in a kitchen it wont. I was thinking of reducing its size to fit the OPs needs. Thats the beauty of building things yourself. |
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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2012, 08:59 PM » |
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My MFT is probably my most used Festool. I use it for cutting sheet goods, sanding, assembly and clamping. Be sure to get a "slop stop" for the guide rail though. I wish I had purchased this sooner.
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« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2012, 09:16 PM » |
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As a kitchen fitter all my woodworking is mobile, I don't have a workshop (just a bloody big van)
I tend to use a pair of fold up trestles when working but they aren't great and hence the question....
How good is the mft3 table and is it a benefit when working in people's houses as it seems a lot of money for a fold up table but as with all festool kit I'm sure I'll be proven wrong
Well,it depends on how much work is involve in the work you do. For the most part,i don't need my MFT unless i have something special to build. For basic installation my table stays in my truck.Just get yourself a cheap folding table. |
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I don't understand!?! I keep cutting it,and it's still too short!
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« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2012, 05:01 AM » |
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what do you think of those guy. i was thinking of geting those. willl the normal brackets fit them
I saw the DW miter saw brackets attached to one of the shorter stands. The Stand is the same as the regular long one , just shorter in length. Seth |
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« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2012, 09:50 AM » |
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seth the ones in the pic arent the shortened normal stand . you gat a pair that clip together but with not slide out extensions. i presume they made it so that the brackets fit these as well
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ts 55+2 1400 rails+ 1 lr32 1400 rail, domino+assortment systainer+ domiplate, ct 22 with boom arm+home made thien baffel, lr32 set, rotex 150, home made MFT,home made work center, 6 t locs for other tools, of2000 , ro 90, mft 800, trion , ls 130
wish list
of 1400, MFT 3,, even more t locs for other tools
"A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty."
- Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
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« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2012, 01:20 PM » |
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No, you should buy 2 to get the most use out of it.
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« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2012, 01:54 PM » |
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seth the ones in the pic arent the shortened normal stand . you gat a pair that clip together but with not slide out extensions. i presume they made it so that the brackets fit these as well
Aaah, yes I see there are two different short length stands. The amazon description and pic says it includes the brackets. http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DWX725B-Heavy-Mounting-Brackets/dp/B004U4S7UC/ref=sr_1_3?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1331401447&sr=1-3Seth |
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« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2012, 12:14 PM » |
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Nice set-up...very innovative.
Scot
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