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Offline pjblues

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Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« on: November 30, 2014, 08:57 AM »
When does this tool become available?

Secondly, does it make sense for a home hobby person to have two Festool routers?

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Offline ChrisK1970

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2014, 09:22 AM »
December 1st

And No.


You should have at least three Festool routers ;)
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Offline greg mann

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2014, 09:30 AM »
The question of how many routers comes up quite often. Interestingly, it doesn't seem that many of us have more than one of the same model festool router. I wonder why that is?
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Offline Scott Burt

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2014, 09:40 AM »
Personally, I'd sell a router and get the vecturo. Incredibly handy little tool for all kinds of home maintenance matters.

Offline lambeater

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2014, 10:14 AM »
When does this tool become available?

Secondly, does it make sense for a home hobby person to have two Festool routers?

Vecturo is out tomorrow, as far as routers go I use 3, MFK 700 great for edge trimming, OF 1400 my go to great for everthing used a lot with the LR32 system and the OF 2200 beast. It mainly gets used in one place and has all the power you will ever need.

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Offline greg mann

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2014, 10:34 AM »
I have an older multi master. I'm looking forward to the Vecturo  as it will be a huge upgrade.
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Offline Birdhunter

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2014, 08:43 AM »
December 1, I think, for the Vecturo. I'll probably buy one, but I have no idea how I'll use it. I'm hoping all my Fein sanding attachments will fit the Vecturo.

I have all of the Festool routers. Do I need all of them? No. Absolutely not! But.........

The 1400 is my favorite with the 1010 right behind it. I've only used the 2200 a couple of times for hogging out a lot of material on one pass in hard wood. I've used the MFK a few times to trim edging.

If I had to keep only one router, it would be the 1400.
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Offline Bauskac

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2014, 09:39 AM »
I pre-ordered mine a month ago and I can't wait.  Hope to get it this week!  I was a little dissapointed to find out it does not have a light on it!  >:(  Oh well maybe a Syslight will fix that...

Offline AIPDX

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2014, 02:54 PM »
Please share your impressions when you get it. I have a Bosch, many people here have a Fein, I am curious to hear how they compare in real life. At first glance, Vecturo has larger oscillation angle (4 degrees compared to 2.8 degrees of Bosch, a little higher power (3.3 Amps compared to 3.0 Amps), lower max oscillation frequency (18,500 compared to 20,000), lack of dust collection accessories (both Bosch and Fein have such accessories, but only for sanding applications, Festool does not appear to offer one). It probably has low vibration, just as newest generation Fein. My impression that blade lock mechanism is superior on the Bosch (no parts to take out and insert back), but Festool's accessories appear to be very useful and one of them is so unique that it could change the way how oscillation tool is used (depth limiter is available with Fein).


Offline fazmanicg

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2014, 05:03 PM »
I just got mine today. First off, it is exactly like the Fein Supercut, except for the attachments. I did notice that when changing blades, even though I've seated it correctly and have pressed down while I close the clamp, that once I start the tool, the blade comes loose. It has happened several times today. Other times it seems to be fine. Now, you will want to laugh, But I own a Rockwell F50 multitool as well, and I have to be honest, that has less vibration & less noise. I can't say enough about the depth stop and the plunge attachment on the OS 400. Absolutely first rate. I will continue swapping out blades and see if it is just a matter of breaking it in, or wether I may have a defective unit.

Offline Lvfd69

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2014, 06:32 PM »
I pick mine up today also . Cant wait to put it to work next week have a bunch of outlet to cut out in high end cabinets . Thats the reason i bought it. ill post back with some feed back.
Russ

Offline 3PedalMINI

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2014, 07:36 PM »
I was very excited to hear we were finally getting one, And then all that excitement went up in saw dust because they didnt design any dust collection in it  [scared]

This puzzles me as festool prides their self on the DC capabilities of their tools. Why on earth would they design this without DC especially when the cheap ripoffs have DC :(

what gives! :(
« Last Edit: December 01, 2014, 07:40 PM by 3PedalMINI »
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Offline epicxt

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2014, 08:43 PM »

I was very excited to hear we were finally getting one, And then all that excitement went up in saw dust because they didnt design any dust collection in it  [scared]

This puzzles me as festool prides their self on the DC capabilities of their tools. Why on earth would they design this without DC especially when the cheap ripoffs have DC :(

what gives! :(
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I've had a chance to use the attachments for a bit on my Supercut (thanks to puddle-jumping European friend:) and am pleased with the results but would have liked to see a removable dc attachment integrated with it. Found myself holding a hose near the cut with my knee as I was making a vertical cut in baseboard using the plunge base.
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Offline AIPDX

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2014, 03:56 PM »
For what it is worth, I visited a local dealer today who had a demo Vecturo tool available. I did not get to cut anything, but I got to get it plugged in and turned on and played with it a little bit. Depth stop and plunge accessories are very nice, once you've seen them, you start wondering why no one else came up with this simple and so efficient design. It feels like 50% of typical tasks which this tool can be used for would become more efficient with these attachments. Great job from Festool designing them. The tool itself did not impress me because it felt noisy (can't compare side by side, but it felt as noisy or noisier than my Bosch) and vibration was quite pronounced. Maybe my expectations for Festool coming up with something significantly different in terms of vibration and noise were too high.  Since I did not get to cut anything, I cannot tell how well it cuts. Replacing a blade takes too many steps compared to Bosch.

I also was told by the dealer that even though blades are the same as on Fein, there are two types of Fein blades. Those which are made for the popular (and cheaper) Multimaster would not fit. More expensive SuperCut uses different size/shape of hexagon-like hole and blades produced for SuperCut would work on Festool. In other words, if one has an assortment of blades from other tool which is not the most expensive Fein, you cannot use it.

Looking at the plunge base, I started wondering why Festool did not consider attaching a hose port to the bottom of the plunge base. This is the configuration in which one could get decent dust extraction  in close proximity to the blade. Even if it were not the most efficient dust collection,  the ability to keep at least some of the dust away would be of great help.  It seems that Festool took the position that either we collect 90+% of dust in all possible configurations, or not offer dust collection at all. I do not necessarily agree with this.

I really would like to hear more from people who bought and actually used this tool for a project...

« Last Edit: December 03, 2014, 05:39 PM by AIPDX »

Offline promhandicam

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2014, 04:49 PM »
After coming very close to buying a Vecturo, after doing a bit of reading I decided to spend my money on one of these.







In the UK you can get a new FMM350Q Top kit with 5 (mine actually came with 6) extra blades for £216.99 including delivery. This is £100 cheaper than the basic Vecturo and comes with all the blades and accessories shown above, whereas the OS 400 Plus comes with just one blade! I had a spare attic systainer, and I bought the insert from Warren at Bunnys bolts for £7.56 and I'm all set up.

As has been said, if you feel the need for a depth stop these are available for the fein so the only new thing is the plunge base. I don't doubt that what Festool has dreamed up is well made, but as far as I'm concerned it is solving a problem that doesn't exist. Even with my cr*ppy old bosch I could hold it steadily enough with both hands to accurately do plunge cuts. All the demos I've seen on you tube show nice neat square holes being cut but that is all - no one is actually showing a hole being cut in a real work situation where almost certainly the hole is going to be wider than the width that a blade cuts, so the whole jig will need to be repositioned - not too bad on a nice flat worktop but impossible if you are trying to do a cut out on a piece of architrave or skirting. Sorry festool, but you've missed a trick with this one, and missed a sale too.


Offline Tom Gensmer

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2014, 04:50 PM »

I also was told by the dealer that even though blades are the same as on Fein, there are two types of Fein blades. Those which are made for the popular (and cheaper) Supercut would not fit. More expensive Fine Cut uses different size/shape of hexagon-like hole and blades produced for FineCut would work on Festool. In other words, if one has an assortment of blades from other tool which is not the most expensive Fein, you cannot use it.

I really would like to hear more from people who bought and actually used this tool for a project...

To clarify the above statement, the Vecturo is compatible with ALL SuperCut blades/accessories. There is a Fein adapter that allows you to use "standard" blades, but I found the adapter to be cumbersome. The Festool blades are priced surprisingly  low, when purchased in 25 packs I believe the cost is ~$13/blade.
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Offline fazmanicg

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2014, 05:13 PM »
I Ordered one of these. If it works, There are a tone blades that can be used with the OS400.

http://multifitblades.com/supercut-to-multimaster-adapter.html?SID=n2heo2pvptbvr03pt7gvgg0no2

Offline Bauskac

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2014, 06:13 PM »
You guys are making me a little nervous!  I pre-orderd the Vecturo, and mine should arrive on Monday.  I am beginning to second guess my purchase.  I want the hear from users that love it (at least as good as the MM).  I absolutely love all the rest of my green fleet, and hope this lives up to the Festool standard!

Offline RobBob

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2014, 06:23 PM »
If you start adding up the cost of a multimaster or supercut + plunge base, + depth stop, and + maybe the attic lid systainer, the vecturo looks like a pretty good deal to me.  Blades are consumables.

Fein FSC 2.0Q Edition Wood SuperCut
supercut - $419.00
+ Festool 500251 Vecturo Depth Stop Set - $165.00
=$584.00

+ optional T-Loc Systainer 2 with
Lid Storage (158mm) - $74.00
=$658.00

vs.

Festool 563007 Vecturo OS 400 EQ Set
Vecturo Set - $575.00  (Includes plunge base, + depth stop.  Also has the plug-it cord and includes the Round Wood Saw Blade 500139 which is not included with the Fein and is an expensive blade.)
« Last Edit: December 03, 2014, 08:21 PM by RLJ-Atl »

Offline joiner1970

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2014, 06:25 PM »
You guys are making me a little nervous!  I pre-orderd the Vecturo, and mine should arrive on Monday.  I am beginning to second guess my purchase.  I want the hear from users that love it (at least as good as the MM).  I absolutely love all the rest of my green fleet, and hope this lives up to the Festool standard!
Don't worry the vecturo is still a very well made tool and I do like the attachments. It's just a personal choice for me as I've had a Fein for years so I just bought the new one. I tried the supercut, vecturo and mm350q and to me the mm is way better even though it's the cheapest of the 3.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2014, 06:38 PM by joiner1970 »

Offline Tom Gensmer

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2014, 08:00 PM »
You guys are making me a little nervous!  I pre-orderd the Vecturo, and mine should arrive on Monday.  I am beginning to second guess my purchase.  I want the hear from users that love it (at least as good as the MM).  I absolutely love all the rest of my green fleet, and hope this lives up to the Festool standard!

The SuperCut has long been regarded as KING of the oscillating multi tools. The Vecturo is simply a refined SuperCut with some nice creature comforts. You won't be disappointed.  [big grin]
« Last Edit: December 03, 2014, 08:08 PM by Tom Gensmer »
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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2014, 08:04 PM »
Simple. If it's doesn't meet your expectations, please exercise the 30-day return policy. That's what it's there for and you shouldn't feel guilty/bad if you use it.

Offline WarnerConstCo.

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2014, 08:21 PM »
You guys are making me a little nervous!  I pre-orderd the Vecturo, and mine should arrive on Monday.  I am beginning to second guess my purchase.  I want the hear from users that love it (at least as good as the MM).  I absolutely love all the rest of my green fleet, and hope this lives up to the Festool standard!

It's not in the same class as the multimaster or the rest of the copy's. 

I doubt many have used a supercut.  The vecturo and supercut blow the doors off the multimaster class tools.

Offline erock

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2014, 08:25 PM »
Well I'm PUMPED!    Just checked my tracking number from Tom B. and I should have my Vecturo tomorrow!!

I put a couple projects on hold.  I'll finish them with the Vecturo.

The only multi tool I have to compare the Vecturo with is the Porter Cable Multi tool.  The Porter Cable has been okay.   But the plunge base and depth stop on the Vecturo sold me.   

I'm so pumped about receiving the Vecturo, I asked Tom to ship it to where I work so I could test it out in the shop in front of the guys I work with.   [wink]

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2014, 08:36 PM »
I'm looking forward to your demo, Eric
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Offline erock

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2014, 08:42 PM »
I'm looking forward to your demo, Eric


 [eek]   [scared]   MY DEMO?   


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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2014, 08:44 PM »
vid.e.o

Vid-e-O

VID!E!O!

VIDEO!!!!

 [popcorn]

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2014, 08:51 PM »
 [popcorn]

Come on man!  You know you want to.   [thanks]

Offline Rip Van Winkle

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2014, 09:32 PM »
For those purchasers worried about the lack of dust collection, do any of you order from a Fein dealer who may normally carry the Supercut and have the Supercut dust extraction set in stock? Since the Vecturo seems to be a rebranded Fein Supercut the Dust extraction set for the Fein may work for the Vecturo, unless the modification for the Plug-It cord got in the way?

Are any of the Festool dealers on FOG also Fein dealers and could they check?

I believe the part number for the Fein Supercut dust extraction set is 9 26 02 074 01 4 or 92602074014 for the version that runs the extraction underneath the motor.

Fein also makes a vacuum hood that fits on the front metal housing of the Supercut called the "Dust Extraction Device" for use when cutting or grinding hazardous materials. The part number for that is 9 26 02 084 01 0 or 92602084010.

There's a video on Youtube showing the Dust Extraction Device being used on a Supercut, it shows it  after the 1:00 mark.



Fein also makes an adapter so that the Fein eight point pads can be used for sanding on the Supercut, that may also fit the Vecturo.

Offline joiner1970

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Re: Multi-Tool Vecturo OS 400
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2014, 01:30 AM »
You guys are making me a little nervous!  I pre-orderd the Vecturo, and mine should arrive on Monday.  I am beginning to second guess my purchase.  I want the hear from users that love it (at least as good as the MM).  I absolutely love all the rest of my green fleet, and hope this lives up to the Festool standard!

It's not in the same class as the multimaster or the rest of the copy's. 

I doubt many have used a supercut.  The vecturo and supercut blow the doors off the multimaster class tools.
Well I've used all 3, in fact 4 if you count the old model multimaster and yes the old multimaster wasn't in the same class but things change :)