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Offline _Floh_

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CT SYS & Cyclone ?
« on: January 27, 2019, 03:41 PM »
Good Evening Ladies and Gentleman,

I came around from the german forums because it seems that in the US there is much more experience with the CT SYS - or at least people are more willing to share their experiences.

Currently I don‘t own any portable dust extractor suitable for woodworking, from time to time it would be very comfortable to reduce the amount of dust generated, when using track saw, router, biscuit joiner and (various) sanders away from the workshop.

The Sys‘s small footprint is very appealing, because I haul around tools from the workshop to my home and vice versa a lot - without owning a car - in the summer on a bike trailer, which is 60cm*40cm, and fits two Systainers (30cm*40cm) perfectly, if cycling is uncomfortable also by bus, for what I use a 40cm by 30cm sized handcart.
Most tools are packed in Systainers/Makpacks, so on the Point of Portability the CT SYS is a Winner (for me).

On the other Hand I also want to use the CT SYS in the Workshop, because the existing High Volume Extractor there does not perform very well on Hand Tools, since it can‘t generate enough negative Pressure.

For those tasks the volume of the CT SYS‘ filter bag is a little low - but after seeing the CT VA, it seemed like a good idea to add a cyclone to the CT SYS as a workaround.
Probably not a CT-VA because of the ridiculous price, but something similar selfmade, fitting inside a Systainer, so taking it outside of the Workshop is also possible.

On Youtube there is this Video of a Guy using the CT SYS with the CT-VA. He‘s reporting the grade of extraction is similar to his CT26, which sounds quite good.
On the other Hand he has done actually no testing with Tools attached, so may the CT SYS will suffer from lower aiflow and suction, further reduced by the cyclone, when working with real tools, and not just sucking up dirt for testing.

Any thoughts on this?

Will the CT Sys in general handle the Dust generated by Track Saw and Router well enough?
Or would it be wise to go with a CT Mini, and it’s higher Airflow and Suction, while also bearing the reduced Portability in mind?

Kind regards, Flo.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2019, 03:49 PM by _Floh_ »

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Offline Don T

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Re: CT SYS & Cyclone ?
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2019, 04:16 PM »
Festool is not recommending using the cyclone with a CT Sys.
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Offline TinyShop

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Re: CT SYS & Cyclone ?
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2019, 04:48 PM »
@_Floh_ If you have any photo evidence, I'd love to see some shots of both your bicycle trailer and hand cart set-ups! Keeping my fingers crossed....
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Offline _Floh_

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Re: CT SYS & Cyclone ?
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2019, 04:50 PM »
Festool is not recommending using the cyclone with a CT Sys.

Festools policy is to „not recommend“ things that were not tested extensively - before being held responsible for something not working (well).
If it would be dangerous, or Festool would believe it is dangerous in any way to use a CT Mini/Midi/SYS with a CT VAS, they would warn to do so.

That’s  why I asked for someone who tried the CT SYS with the CT VAS, or possibly any other cyclone  [wink]

Offline _Floh_

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Re: CT SYS & Cyclone ?
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2019, 04:55 PM »
@_Floh_ If you have any photo evidence, I'd love to see some shots of both your bicycle trailer and hand cart set-ups! Keeping my fingers crossed....

In a early stage, that‘s what it looked like - but it‘s missing the connector to the bike yet - more fotos are to come these days ;)


Offline TinyShop

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Re: CT SYS & Cyclone ?
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2019, 05:13 PM »
@_Floh_ If you have any photo evidence, I'd love to see some shots of both your bicycle trailer and hand cart set-ups! Keeping my fingers crossed....

In a early stage, that‘s what it looked like - but it‘s missing the connector to the bike yet - more fotos are to come these days ;)



Cool - didn't realize you fabricated your own trailer. Some shots "in the wild" (the trailer & hand cart loaded with gear) would be great. There is apparently a scattered and unaffiliated group of Festool owners like us who transport their gear on bakfiets and I've got a Bikes At Work trailer for hauling all kinds of things (I'm also car-free!). Festool and bikes go hand in hand, after all!

   
« Last Edit: January 27, 2019, 05:16 PM by TinyShop »
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Offline Coen

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Re: CT SYS & Cyclone ?
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2019, 08:59 PM »
You can also transport systainers in a velomobile. That's way faster plus people won't see that you are transporting Festool  ;). However capacity is somewhat limited.

Depending on where you live... if in NL in a locality where they don't use asphalt for the cycling paths; some a trailer or tricyle (or quadcycle) that's wider than 0.75 so you can ignore the cycling paths and use the asphalt road.

Offline Mortiser

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Re: CT SYS & Cyclone ?
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2019, 11:02 PM »
@_Floh_  , shouldn't just the handle bars and pedals be green?  [wink]
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Offline Cheese

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Re: CT SYS & Cyclone ?
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2019, 09:17 AM »
There is apparently a scattered and unaffiliated group of Festool owners like us who transport their gear on bakfiets and I've got a Bikes At Work trailer for hauling all kinds of things (I'm also car-free!). Festool and bikes go hand in hand, after all!


Cool bicycle...is that yours?