Hi,

Festool just dropped this in their Instagram stories:

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English (UK Website): https://www.festool.co.uk/campaigns/microsites/ct-va

German (Deutsche Webseite): https://www.festool.de/kampagnen/microsites/ct-va


Kind regards,
Oliver

In the 3/4 view of the assembly in use it looks like the collection tub of the CT has been lined with a clear plastic bag. Is this a useful practice? Is it only useful with newer CT’s? Mine are older models.

Regarding the new equipment, it’s nice that it maintains the stackable nature of the Sys/tem.

I don't see a picture that shows it but it looks to me that the upper portion attaches to the lower portion when the clear tub is removed. I wonder if the lower then becomes the collection container?

I like the idea of the removable, swap out, tub with lid.

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I was thinking it seemed less bulky? 

Or at least more streamlined, easy to remove and move since it is really built in to a Systainer, stackable and the cyclone is not an appendage sitting on top.

Seth

More information and photos. I am excited.

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Don't have a Dust Deputy so I'll likely get the festool verion..

What would be the benefit of owning multiple bins if you use the liners?

What would be the benefit of owning multiple bins if you use the liners?

Try picking up a 50 lbs sack of flour that uses a bread bag as the bag.  The bag keeps it all together, the liner is so the clear tubs down get dirty, so at the end of the day, you have everything clean.  So when you go home you can use the tubs to let the next days bread dough rise.

Some thoughts:

Extraction will likely be less than what a DD can archive, especially on the fine dust fraction, as of the geometry:
The cone of a cyclone is ment to accelerate the particles so that they'll have enough momentum to continue on downward and separate from the airstream at its turning point. The festool thing looks like a dustcan type extractor, while these are somewhat OK for bigger particles these usually fail at the smaller/fine fraction. Might be OK to use with the CT in AC mode and a Planex (as depicted), or to collect chips from a router (unless these tend to clog inside the inlet as it has a narrowing section) - but I suspect a DD will overall perform better (especially when sanding with higher grits).

The bins being transparent is good so you can watch the fill grade, question though is if the bag won't simply turn opaque and leaving you non the wiser. I dislike how the bins are stacking though, they're not deep enough to fit the lids, so you can't put a lid on the top one leading to you being unable to stack something ontop as there isn't an even surface (or you'll have to also stack the lids, opposed to how it's depicted). The rim (and handles) could have been created different (smaller, with the latch of the top systainer going into the handle instead of an extra slot) to give a better stacking ratio than 5:2 (excluding the lids that protrude over the topmost bin) that can be deducted from the bin carrying picture.

The bottom adaptor dosn't seem to be able to lock onto the bins, thus there dosn't seem to be a single-hand way (as the handle on the top systainer most likely can't be used) to lift the CT over an obstacle. But it looks like it'll have enough space though to store the additional hose for transport. Possibly it can be used without a bin (just a liner bag in the bottom part) for ~1/3 of the capacity of a bin, but that will have the downside of no visibility at all.

EDIT:
It dosn't look like it's worth spending (all prices as of the german homepage incl. VAT) 416,50€ on it - or 184,45€ on a 3 pack of bins (that's 61,48€/ piece) or 83,30€ in case you buy one in a single pack (that's 3€ less than a SYS-5). Comparing the pricing for the bins to the 41,65 € they call for the part (a socket with short extension and plug) that moves the outlet to the top part of the pre-extractor (which seems to be a must-have in case you want to use a sleeved hose) makes that part look cheap in comparison.

Given that similar sized transparent containers (20L) can be at obtained at IKEA for less than 5€ (which would make them 10€ when molded in thicker to have higher stability) I can only assert that such ripoff pricing dosn't make me want to continue buying their products...

Has anyone seen mention of the capacity?

Using my CT26 with a lunchbox thicknesses it fills up very quickly; I'd like to see a much bigger bin than 26 litres.

Andrew

Has anyone seen mention of the capacity?

The bins are listed on the festool.de site as 20L.

I hate to be negative, but this is just another example of Festool coming to the game way too late, and overpriced.

It’s an ALL STEEL product - Not a plastic “whanna be”.

Does it matter? It's not a subject to serious stress and there is no moving parts. My plastic DD will outlast me three times over. And it does not rust, so when archaeologists dig up my shop it'll still be there and intact.

The chief value of the new Festool semi-cyclone separator is that it is more mobile than most and is the only one that allows you to stack stuff on top.

Bingo!

I just found the Festool Canada product links for the Festool seperator.

https://www.festoolcanada.com/en-ca/products/dust-extraction/pre-separator/204083---ct-va-20?_ga=2.136252593.1480235752.1531241825-1184194170.1531241825

You guys in the US, just go to the bottom and toggle over to the Festool USA site.

I made my own cyclone in a Sys5. The cyclone itself, an anti static Dust Commander, along with the plywood lid, inverts and fits inside the Sys5 and then packs away.

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