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Offline antss

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2016, 06:17 PM »
Yea, but will the 110v motor be any good ?

Perhaps a cordless version would be better from that standpoint.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2016, 06:19 PM »
Yea, but will the 110v motor be any good ?

Perhaps a cordless version would be better from that standpoint.

And to counter your question - Will it even be available in 110V?

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2016, 06:28 PM »
It was interesting that Seth and I had dinner at the Festool Connect event a little while ago and at least one of those in the video was at our table.  Pretty cool.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2016, 06:28 PM »
NAINA is probably the fate of this for 110v.   I can't see them bringing this here to compete with the Kapex.

The other issue is that the floor covering industry is not where the highest skilled workers land and hence the pay is pretty crappy.  This doesn't lend itself to guys buying $$$$ saws.  The trim guys aren't going to buy a small saw because small blades are............well let's just say they aren't going to buy it either. So, I don't really see a big market for this here.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2016, 06:41 PM »
It could be wrong, but I heard 70% of Festool US sales is well heeled DIY. They will buy KS60 because its cute. I suggest $299 promotion sale with $50 rebate.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2016, 07:04 PM »
I suggest $299 promotion sale with $50 rebate.

 [thumbs up]  I'm glad they're doing the pull out extensions, as opposed to forking over another $200 for "optional" ones.
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Offline SHJ NH

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2016, 04:03 AM »
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YEAH!
Nice portable and ideal in a small van and to take up stairs.
Even so nice would be a Precisio 50.
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2016, 10:35 AM »
You know what would be very slick??

Having it able to be mounted on a CT SYS!  That way it would be a short run to the vac (and cords), a little higher off the ground and nice and compact. That is the angle I would take.

The battery path would be nice but not sure how realistic it would be for more extended use. If they did the incorporated vac AND batteries and could get a few hundred cuts from a charge, that would be a great flooring, casework, trim saw!

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Offline mrrhum

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2016, 04:39 PM »
I miss my old Hitachi C8FB2.

This Kapex is the same size (compact) but adds the feature of a double bevel.
I'll be very interested to see if/when this shows up as a US option.
I bought Makita's version this year. It's very nice in most respects, but the dust collection is desperately bad. I'd gladly throw it over for a similar sized Kapex.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2016, 01:24 AM »
I think the KS 60 would be Festool's answer to competitor Metabo who has introduced the KGSV 72 XACT SYM.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #41 on: November 17, 2016, 11:32 AM »
Yea, but will the 110v motor be any good ?

Perhaps a cordless version would be better from that standpoint.

And to counter your question - Will it even be available in 110V?

Peter


Seen some hints regarding a 110v version. See attachment.

Offline Kev

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #42 on: November 17, 2016, 09:49 PM »
To be honest, Festool would have to be bonkers not to develop this as 240, 110 and also cordless. The compact SCMS market must be huge.

Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #43 on: November 19, 2016, 08:31 AM »
I think the KS 60 would be Festool's answer to competitor Metabo who has introduced the KGSV 72 XACT SYM.



My take on that comment is that the Metabo saw is exactly what Festool _should have_ gone for and that it is more "innovative" than the KS 60. I think the Metabo seems like a great saw and if I was in the market for that (blade) size saw I would probably go for it. And after seeing the footprint and cut capacity on the KS60 video I probably will go for the Metabo, when it is time to retire my small Makita LS0714.

I have the Festool SYM 70 E and I used to have the Kapex 120. I did find that I reached for my Makita LS0714 90% of the time and that it does a great job (except for dust extraction) and the Kapex sat idly for the most part.

In my head I was thinking that if Festool made a smaller sized Kapex with the SYM saw features incorporated it would be my "one and only" mitre saw. Metabo did just that with the KGSV 72 Xact SYM.


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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #44 on: November 23, 2016, 04:09 PM »
Hello everybody,

On a Dutch site the new kapex Is avalible 699 euro. And the specs are online to Kapex 60

Technische kenmerken
Opgenomen vermogen 1200 W
Onbelast toerental 1300 - 3500 min-1
Diameter zaagblad 216,00 mm
Zaagdiepte 90°/90° 305 x 60 mm
Zaagdiepte bij 45°/90° 215 x 60 mm
Hellingshoek 47/46 ° Verstekhoek 60/60 °
Afmetingen (LxDxH) 661 x 475 x 430 mm
Aansluiting stofafzuiging Ø 27/36 mm
Gewicht 17,80 kg
Zaagdiepte 60°/90° (rechts) 150 x 60 mm
Zaagdiepte 45°/45° (links) 215 x 40 mm
Zaagdiepte 45°/45° (rechts) 215 x 20 mm
Leveringsomvang
HW Universeel zaagblad W 36, schroefklemmen FSZ 120, bedieningsgereedschap, in doos

The price is acceptable don't you think?

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Offline djkoekie

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #45 on: November 29, 2016, 05:17 PM »
I've spotted this machine on an exhibition in Belgium
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Offline Job and Knock

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2016, 05:35 PM »
There is a professional market for this size of saw in the UK for certain (and much of the EU as well). I use a 216mm (8-1/4in) DW saw as my general jobbing saw on lower cost installs for everything from framing to skirtings (baseboards) and wood flooring. They are small enough and light enough to lug about site - my Kapex KS120 isn't. If it has double bevel and really is compact then they may have a winner there. Time to start saving my pennies?
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Offline Nat X

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #47 on: November 29, 2016, 09:02 PM »
If the fence on that Metabo is anywhere near as accurate as Mafell's ERIKA, I don't even care what the mini-Kapex does. That thing looks awesome.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2016, 09:19 PM »
If anyone is interested we can get the Metabo saw right now for 855.68 shipped to anyone in USA, same for the KS60(near double that though).
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #49 on: December 01, 2016, 07:14 AM »
I've noticed that Festool now have a page up, detailing the new KS-60.  You'll find a video there, and spec details plus a list of all the attachments such as an LED lamp module, the new UG stand, extensions etc.  Available from February 2017 apparently.  Interesting stuff and worth a look.

>>> https://www.festool.co.uk/Microsite/Pages/KAPEX.aspx#start <<<

I wonder how many Kapex 120's will soon be hitting the classified section...

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #50 on: December 01, 2016, 08:51 AM »
We should be having a play with one of these soon. 8)
I'll report back but looks to be useful addition to the Armoury! [smile]
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #51 on: December 01, 2016, 11:06 AM »
I've noticed that Festool now have a page up, detailing the new KS-60.  You'll find a video there, and spec details plus a list of all the attachments such as an LED lamp module, the new UG stand, extensions etc.  Available from February 2017 apparently.  Interesting stuff and worth a look.

>>> https://www.festool.co.uk/Microsite/Pages/KAPEX.aspx#start <<<

I wonder how many Kapex 120's will soon be hitting the classified section...

I will have one on pre order for mid January. Replaces my KGS 216M

There is a Dutch version too: www.festool.nl/KAPEX

Probably most places will have their own pages popping up soon.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #52 on: December 01, 2016, 11:10 AM »
We should be having a play with one of these soon. 8)
I'll report back but looks to be useful addition to the Armoury! [smile]

I look forward to that.  I'd also like to know if it will be compatible with the existing UG frame and extensions for the 120.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #53 on: December 01, 2016, 01:13 PM »
We should be having a play with one of these soon. 8)
I'll report back but looks to be useful addition to the Armoury! [smile]

I look forward to that.  I'd also like to know if it will be compatible with the existing UG frame and extensions for the 120.

No, it doesn't look like they are compatible. The UG cart & extension wings are listed in the KS60 accessories as specific to the KS60.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #54 on: December 01, 2016, 01:31 PM »
We should be having a play with one of these soon. 8)
I'll report back but looks to be useful addition to the Armoury! [smile]

I look forward to that.  I'd also like to know if it will be compatible with the existing UG frame and extensions for the 120.

No, it doesn't look like they are compatible. The UG cart & extension wings are listed in the KS60 accessories as specific to the KS60.

.....they fit from the KS120......there are also specific legs for the KS60. I will post some pictures later this evening
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #55 on: December 01, 2016, 01:33 PM »
We should be having a play with one of these soon. 8)
I'll report back but looks to be useful addition to the Armoury! [smile]

I look forward to that.  I'd also like to know if it will be compatible with the existing UG frame and extensions for the 120.

....the KS60 fits via an adapter plate....cool piece of kit
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #56 on: December 01, 2016, 05:41 PM »
We should be having a play with one of these soon. 8)
I'll report back but looks to be useful addition to the Armoury! [smile]
Let me know, I want to come and play! Seriously, I'm wonderng if one would make a good replacemengt for my eWalt DW771 216mm SCMS
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #57 on: December 01, 2016, 06:35 PM »
Hello
Will the kapex ks 60 cut a 2x6 (North American units) in one pass?  That is to say what is the travel of the cut at 90 degrees and 90 degrees?  The technical data suggest 6 cm of travel, a distance that seems especially short. Perhaps we can work around some this be raising the 2x6?

Come to think of the hk55 issue, wil the kapex ks 60 cut a 2x4 in one pass at either 45 degrees on the bevel or 45 degrees on the miter ?

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Offline mrB

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #58 on: December 01, 2016, 07:44 PM »
^^ not sure I've ever used a mitre saw that can't do this. Looking at the pictures of the KS60 there is no doubt the saw can do those cuts!

Not sure if you were just making a joke based around all that HKC chat gone before. . .  [smile]
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #59 on: December 01, 2016, 08:32 PM »
specs are clearly on site crosscuts 12" at 90 and 8.5' at 45. The spec that one should take notice of is 1200 watts, 10 amps at 120, not exactly over powered but we shall see.