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Offline backhoebb

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #90 on: December 09, 2016, 04:54 PM »
First post on fog!! I have the hk55 and love it, wondering if there a planed north america release for this saw? i can't justify getting the bigger kapex given that i have a tope of the line dewalt and while it might make more airborne dust, it is 12" and dead on accurate, i would love a smaller portable saw that I could but on a stack of Systainers on the job would be perfect!
thanks all
-billybob
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Offline copcarcollector

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #91 on: December 09, 2016, 04:59 PM »
@backhoebb

 [welcome] to the FOG! The smaller KS60 was very recently announced Internationally. Typically it takes 8-12 months for new items to migrate over to N America, and not all products make it here. There has been no official word if or when the KS60 will be available here.

Offline demographic

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #92 on: December 12, 2016, 04:42 PM »
Subcontractor carpenter here.
Looks a good practical size for sitework.
The big saws are too bloody numb to be karting about up several flights of stairs and back everyday. Lot of blokes have a massive scms and it hardly comes out the van after a month or so.
I've used a little Makita for the last twelve or so years, great little thing that only cuts upto about 130mm. Small enough to carry with ease and fits into my toolsafe with all the other stuff I have in there. Plus it cuts any studs I need to make and also most of my work is in commercial properties so the

I'm sure there's a market for this saw as personally I wouldn't want something as big and numb as a Kapex 120 unless I had a workshop.

Offline turnpike

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #93 on: December 12, 2016, 05:53 PM »
Why will this be better than a KS88?  Looks like its only very slightly smaller and lighter, for less cutting depth.

Update: Looks like it will be cheaper too.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2016, 05:55 PM by turnpike »

Offline mrB

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #94 on: December 12, 2016, 06:27 PM »
^^^ unlike the KS88 (Which is a KS120 minus some features) the KS60 has an imptoved(?) laser guide line or actually an LED shadow line. And it comes with the Festool mitre gauge. And it's cheaper..
there's nothing like the right tool for the job

Offline Stephen Coff

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #95 on: December 12, 2016, 06:51 PM »
I was advised of a new cordless smaller Kapex to hit the Australian market earlier 2017 so my bet is there will be 2 versions released
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Offline antss

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #96 on: December 12, 2016, 07:05 PM »
That's not the info we've got around here from the U.K. and U.S. reps.
No cordless version that is.

Offline andy5405

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #97 on: December 18, 2016, 03:16 AM »
I would be interested to see if the dust extraction is as good as the existing Kapex saws. That could sway a lot o people one way or the other.

Offline Tot

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #98 on: December 23, 2016, 05:29 AM »
vs KS120

[pros]
+Belting instead of plastic reduction gear. Yes, much quieter and easy to repair.
+Led spotlight. Yes, hate lasers (adj. every year, trouble with differents blades, too thick line at night, easy to brake even with single chip when cutting).
+17,8 kg vs 21.5 kg.
+Bevel at the back of the saw. We should remove bevel at KS120 with angle cuts anyway.
+Additional positions for clamps at the left and the right of the saw.
+Can 1mm cutting depth for sawing slots like plunge-cut saw (without any adjustment as KS120).

[cons]
-No Fast Stop (called Quick-acting brake) due to belting. x3-x4 more stopping time and there is no system like "non stop forced braking" for fine cutting.
-No Fast Fix. At KS120 we can easy disable the saw with this feature (mechanical locks start button), much safety.
-No angle dial for fine adjustment. Its the best KS120 feature - ultra visible dial even at night.
-No fine adjustment of the saw blade angle (no spring's counterweight).
-Lamb screw instead of the single button.
-Bevel installing only along two small lines (it can be erased in 4-5 years).

KS120 just better. So still waiting new KS120 with LEDs and holes for clamps (maybe with belting gear) and adjustment for plunge cutting. Marketing is not allowed to add to KS60 same radius limb and counterweight when changing angle as KS120.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2016, 05:45 AM by Tot »

Offline flagre

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #99 on: April 21, 2017, 05:59 AM »
So I am considering upgrading my Hitachi C10FSH which has served me great (with aftermarket blades). I would like to keep it as compact as possible. I do not move often and this will only be for hobby/DIY projects. Also dust collections is a concern. Still no reason for it to be bigger than necessary (or more expensive).

Right now I am a bit torn between the KS60 and KS120. Particularly I have a question regarding cut capacity. Sometimes I do 45 cuts on 2x4 (European, so that would be 48 mm). From the specs it says that it only does 40 mm in 45 degree tilt. Would anyone be able to confirm if the 40 mm spec is absolute? I know from other saws that sometimes they can to cuts outside the specs so I am a bit curious if this is also possible on the KS60. Would it be possible for someone with the saw to investigate this? Would be greatly appreciated. For instance would it be possible to space it from the underside? From the blade size it seems it should be possible to do a 45 degree cut down through around 50 mm but this of course is dependent on other aspects as well. I do not do these cuts often, but when I do it would be nice to be able to do them without too much effort.

Offline flagre

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #100 on: April 21, 2017, 09:30 AM »
Actually I found maybe what I am looking for in this video



At 3:35 he cuts 73 mm. Given a 45 tilt on that gives a bit over 51 mm. Also Dave Stanton mentions "very close to 50 mm" in his video, so we are cutting it close...would anyone care to confirm this by an actual 45 degree cut on a material that is say 49 mm thick? Maybe the 2x4 can be cut at 45 standing without using the slider mechanism. Would be nice if someone could test this.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2017, 09:54 AM by flagre »

Offline flagre

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #101 on: May 06, 2017, 01:50 PM »
Would anyone be able to test this?  If so that would be very helpful.

Offline six-point socket II

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #102 on: May 06, 2017, 03:32 PM »
Hi,

If you are on YT, ask Mike in the comment section of his video - He's on vacation until the 8th, but I'm pretty sure he'll answer your question once he's back.

Kind regards,
Oliver

Offline jdw101

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #103 on: May 07, 2017, 12:09 AM »
Subcontractor carpenter here.
Looks a good practical size for sitework.
The big saws are too bloody numb to be karting about up several flights of stairs and back everyday. Lot of blokes have a massive scms and it hardly comes out the van after a month or so.
I've used a little Makita for the last twelve or so years, great little thing that only cuts upto about 130mm. Small enough to carry with ease and fits into my toolsafe with all the other stuff I have in there. Plus it cuts any studs I need to make and also most of my work is in commercial properties so the

I'm sure there's a market for this saw as personally I wouldn't want something as big and numb as a Kapex 120 unless I had a workshop.

You would hate this thing then, this is what I have. https://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/corded/6955-20 65 lbs of pure misery.  I use it in my shop but I would love to have a nice small option for bringing with me.  I tend to do outdoor and siding for others a lot and a little framing for them here and there.  Any chance we would ever see the hk 60 in the states?