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Offline Milo.Marli

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New Kapex KS60
« on: November 03, 2016, 11:28 AM »
Hello guys,

i just found a new smaller Kapex Model, have fun.



« Last Edit: November 03, 2016, 11:33 AM by Milo.Marli »

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Offline Tom Gensmer

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2016, 11:36 AM »
Nifty! Glad to see a smaller format miter saw.
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Offline Doug S

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2016, 10:43 AM »
That looks a nice little saw.

I will give this a bump because surprised at the lack of interest in it, think everybody is so concerned about their new sanders they have not noticed the new Kapex!

Doug


Offline mrB

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2016, 10:57 AM »
darn, I seem to missed the opportunity to watch these videos. Can anyone say anything about the design? Was it just like a smaller kapex?
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Offline Paul G

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2016, 11:04 AM »
 [popcorn]
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Offline Cheese

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2016, 11:06 AM »
[quote author=Doug S link=topic=48871.msg483407#msg483407 date=1478270602
I will give this a bump because surprised at the lack of interest in it, think everybody is so concerned about their new sanders they have not noticed the new Kapex!
[/quote]

I can't play the video, it's private and a password is needed. I then went to Festool UK and searched for a Kapex KS 60 and nothing came up, then tried Festool GMBH with the same results. [eek]

Offline Tom Gensmer

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2016, 11:08 AM »
That looks a nice little saw.

I will give this a bump because surprised at the lack of interest in it, think everybody is so concerned about their new sanders they have not noticed the new Kapex!

Doug

LOL, I was about the post the same thing!

@ mrB, the KS60 seems optimized towards fitters and site work. The video primarily showed it used for installing engineered flooring. Like you,pointed out the video is no longer accessible, but my memory from the schematics flashed on the screen is that the bevel lock is of a more traditional rear mounted clamp, the forward mounted rails are still present, I couldn't tell if it still had rack and pinion bevel control, 46+ degree bevel both ways, 60 degree miter left and right.
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Offline Neohio

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2016, 11:20 AM »
It was not a hard password to figure out. I might suggest starting with this forum's name. It might just get you in.

Offline mrB

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2016, 11:32 AM »
^^ haha, nice one.

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Offline Tom Gensmer

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2016, 11:44 AM »
With the smaller blade, this saw would be awesome for cutting crown moulding on the flat! Smaller blade, less flex/deflection. Looks like it's still compatible with the UG accessories....
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Offline Goz

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2016, 11:50 AM »
Nice! When do you think that will be making its way to the US? Hopefully it will be introduced at half price like the PRO 5. [emoji6]

Too soon?

Offline Svar

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2016, 12:01 PM »
It was not a hard password to figure out. I might suggest starting with this forum's name. It might just get you in.
? FOG or fog or festoolownersgroup? Does not work.

Offline Neohio

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2016, 12:07 PM »
Drop "ownersgroup" and try again.

Offline Dovetail65

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2016, 12:09 PM »
its festool guys, my first guess, I have a simple  mind I guess.  :)
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Offline ben_r_

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2016, 12:17 PM »
Cool I guess. No interest personally, but I hope this leads to them releasing an updated Kapex KS 120.
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Offline rjh

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2016, 12:19 PM »
Ok. so approx. 8.5 inch blade. That's nice but how much does it weigh? The 10" Kapex is already one of the lightest in its class, so the weight needs to really be somethings special.... And didn't the larger Kapex have minimal deflection already?
And!!!!! Can't they make an 18v version?
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2016, 12:24 PM »
Naturlich ist dies fur den europaischen Markt. Gibt es Plane, diese in die USA brigen? Was ist der erwartete Peais? 

Hope I remember my German.  Is this coming to the US, and what is the anticipated price?
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Offline Paul G

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2016, 12:41 PM »
And here I was hoping for 12", oh well
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Offline Tom Gensmer

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2016, 12:47 PM »
I would be surprised if the KS60 is released in North America prior to Spring 2018....

I would have been surprised to see a 12" Kapex. It kind of goes against the Festool ethic of compact tools, besides the market is already saturated with 12" saws. I am unaware of a <10" scms with dual bevel, other than perhaps a Metabo? Seems like a nice niche for Festool to explore.....
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2016, 12:58 PM »
I miss my old Hitachi C8FB2.

This Kapex is the same size (compact) but adds the feature of a double bevel.
I'll be very interested to see if/when this shows up as a US option.
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2016, 12:59 PM »
If it's cordless I'm interested.

Offline mrB

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2016, 02:36 PM »
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Offline ear3

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2016, 03:10 PM »
I'm surprised their update of the Kapex was to smallerize it rather than go for a cordless version, given where the market is right now.

If it's cordless I'm interested.
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Offline mrB

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2016, 03:35 PM »
looks like a new version of the angle finder clipped into the back of the saw?
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Offline Knight Woodworks

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2016, 04:41 PM »
I'd be very interested in a US version of this saw. No interest in a cordless model.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2016, 04:57 PM »
Interesting  belt drive. Could we be seeing an update to the ks120 drivetrain. If little guy cross cut 12". If so could be good

Offline Doug S

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2016, 04:59 PM »
The second video showed the new angle finder, looked similar to the old one but with more green plastic.

A couple of other things the second video showed which I don't think the first one does is that instead of a laser I think it looked to use a shadow line like dewalt. Also the base of the saw has extensions which pull out of the side to make it wider and give more support to what you are cutting.

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Offline Kev

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2016, 05:18 PM »
What's the change that Festool was on the way to update the KAPEX, but noticed the massive growing market in smaller SCMS's being using specifically for flooring. A cordless version of this would be a natural follow on.

Looks like there's some features on this that would be welcome in an updated big KAPEX too. Love to see it in the flesh! To be worth it's salt it would need to be super precise. Very surprised they didn't incorporate a SYM capability like Metabo.

Offline Frank-Jan

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2016, 05:20 PM »
... If little guy cross cut 12". If so could be good

Yesterday I saw the second video ( the Dutch one), but I can't open it anymore to doublecheck the exact number, but it did say it could cut a bit over 30 cm (31.5 or so, and 12" is 30.48)

Offline GarryMartin

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2016, 06:07 PM »
60mm depth, 305mm width

Looks like a matched cart to go with it too.





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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2016, 06:17 PM »
Yea, but will the 110v motor be any good ?

Perhaps a cordless version would be better from that standpoint.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2016, 06:19 PM »
Yea, but will the 110v motor be any good ?

Perhaps a cordless version would be better from that standpoint.

And to counter your question - Will it even be available in 110V?

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2016, 06:28 PM »
It was interesting that Seth and I had dinner at the Festool Connect event a little while ago and at least one of those in the video was at our table.  Pretty cool.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2016, 06:28 PM »
NAINA is probably the fate of this for 110v.   I can't see them bringing this here to compete with the Kapex.

The other issue is that the floor covering industry is not where the highest skilled workers land and hence the pay is pretty crappy.  This doesn't lend itself to guys buying $$$$ saws.  The trim guys aren't going to buy a small saw because small blades are............well let's just say they aren't going to buy it either. So, I don't really see a big market for this here.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2016, 06:41 PM »
It could be wrong, but I heard 70% of Festool US sales is well heeled DIY. They will buy KS60 because its cute. I suggest $299 promotion sale with $50 rebate.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2016, 07:04 PM »
I suggest $299 promotion sale with $50 rebate.

 [thumbs up]  I'm glad they're doing the pull out extensions, as opposed to forking over another $200 for "optional" ones.
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2016, 04:03 AM »
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YEAH!
Nice portable and ideal in a small van and to take up stairs.
Even so nice would be a Precisio 50.
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2016, 10:35 AM »
You know what would be very slick??

Having it able to be mounted on a CT SYS!  That way it would be a short run to the vac (and cords), a little higher off the ground and nice and compact. That is the angle I would take.

The battery path would be nice but not sure how realistic it would be for more extended use. If they did the incorporated vac AND batteries and could get a few hundred cuts from a charge, that would be a great flooring, casework, trim saw!

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Offline mrrhum

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2016, 04:39 PM »
I miss my old Hitachi C8FB2.

This Kapex is the same size (compact) but adds the feature of a double bevel.
I'll be very interested to see if/when this shows up as a US option.
I bought Makita's version this year. It's very nice in most respects, but the dust collection is desperately bad. I'd gladly throw it over for a similar sized Kapex.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2016, 01:24 AM »
I think the KS 60 would be Festool's answer to competitor Metabo who has introduced the KGSV 72 XACT SYM.

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Offline Amalix

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #41 on: November 17, 2016, 11:32 AM »
Yea, but will the 110v motor be any good ?

Perhaps a cordless version would be better from that standpoint.

And to counter your question - Will it even be available in 110V?

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #42 on: November 17, 2016, 09:49 PM »
To be honest, Festool would have to be bonkers not to develop this as 240, 110 and also cordless. The compact SCMS market must be huge.

Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #43 on: November 19, 2016, 08:31 AM »
I think the KS 60 would be Festool's answer to competitor Metabo who has introduced the KGSV 72 XACT SYM.



My take on that comment is that the Metabo saw is exactly what Festool _should have_ gone for and that it is more "innovative" than the KS 60. I think the Metabo seems like a great saw and if I was in the market for that (blade) size saw I would probably go for it. And after seeing the footprint and cut capacity on the KS60 video I probably will go for the Metabo, when it is time to retire my small Makita LS0714.

I have the Festool SYM 70 E and I used to have the Kapex 120. I did find that I reached for my Makita LS0714 90% of the time and that it does a great job (except for dust extraction) and the Kapex sat idly for the most part.

In my head I was thinking that if Festool made a smaller sized Kapex with the SYM saw features incorporated it would be my "one and only" mitre saw. Metabo did just that with the KGSV 72 Xact SYM.


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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #44 on: November 23, 2016, 04:09 PM »
Hello everybody,

On a Dutch site the new kapex Is avalible 699 euro. And the specs are online to Kapex 60

Technische kenmerken
Opgenomen vermogen 1200 W
Onbelast toerental 1300 - 3500 min-1
Diameter zaagblad 216,00 mm
Zaagdiepte 90°/90° 305 x 60 mm
Zaagdiepte bij 45°/90° 215 x 60 mm
Hellingshoek 47/46 ° Verstekhoek 60/60 °
Afmetingen (LxDxH) 661 x 475 x 430 mm
Aansluiting stofafzuiging Ø 27/36 mm
Gewicht 17,80 kg
Zaagdiepte 60°/90° (rechts) 150 x 60 mm
Zaagdiepte 45°/45° (links) 215 x 40 mm
Zaagdiepte 45°/45° (rechts) 215 x 20 mm
Leveringsomvang
HW Universeel zaagblad W 36, schroefklemmen FSZ 120, bedieningsgereedschap, in doos

The price is acceptable don't you think?

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #45 on: November 29, 2016, 05:17 PM »
I've spotted this machine on an exhibition in Belgium
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2016, 05:35 PM »
There is a professional market for this size of saw in the UK for certain (and much of the EU as well). I use a 216mm (8-1/4in) DW saw as my general jobbing saw on lower cost installs for everything from framing to skirtings (baseboards) and wood flooring. They are small enough and light enough to lug about site - my Kapex KS120 isn't. If it has double bevel and really is compact then they may have a winner there. Time to start saving my pennies?
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Offline Nat X

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #47 on: November 29, 2016, 09:02 PM »
If the fence on that Metabo is anywhere near as accurate as Mafell's ERIKA, I don't even care what the mini-Kapex does. That thing looks awesome.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2016, 09:19 PM »
If anyone is interested we can get the Metabo saw right now for 855.68 shipped to anyone in USA, same for the KS60(near double that though).
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #49 on: December 01, 2016, 07:14 AM »
I've noticed that Festool now have a page up, detailing the new KS-60.  You'll find a video there, and spec details plus a list of all the attachments such as an LED lamp module, the new UG stand, extensions etc.  Available from February 2017 apparently.  Interesting stuff and worth a look.

>>> https://www.festool.co.uk/Microsite/Pages/KAPEX.aspx#start <<<

I wonder how many Kapex 120's will soon be hitting the classified section...

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #50 on: December 01, 2016, 08:51 AM »
We should be having a play with one of these soon. 8)
I'll report back but looks to be useful addition to the Armoury! [smile]
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #51 on: December 01, 2016, 11:06 AM »
I've noticed that Festool now have a page up, detailing the new KS-60.  You'll find a video there, and spec details plus a list of all the attachments such as an LED lamp module, the new UG stand, extensions etc.  Available from February 2017 apparently.  Interesting stuff and worth a look.

>>> https://www.festool.co.uk/Microsite/Pages/KAPEX.aspx#start <<<

I wonder how many Kapex 120's will soon be hitting the classified section...

I will have one on pre order for mid January. Replaces my KGS 216M

There is a Dutch version too: www.festool.nl/KAPEX

Probably most places will have their own pages popping up soon.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #52 on: December 01, 2016, 11:10 AM »
We should be having a play with one of these soon. 8)
I'll report back but looks to be useful addition to the Armoury! [smile]

I look forward to that.  I'd also like to know if it will be compatible with the existing UG frame and extensions for the 120.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #53 on: December 01, 2016, 01:13 PM »
We should be having a play with one of these soon. 8)
I'll report back but looks to be useful addition to the Armoury! [smile]

I look forward to that.  I'd also like to know if it will be compatible with the existing UG frame and extensions for the 120.

No, it doesn't look like they are compatible. The UG cart & extension wings are listed in the KS60 accessories as specific to the KS60.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #54 on: December 01, 2016, 01:31 PM »
We should be having a play with one of these soon. 8)
I'll report back but looks to be useful addition to the Armoury! [smile]

I look forward to that.  I'd also like to know if it will be compatible with the existing UG frame and extensions for the 120.

No, it doesn't look like they are compatible. The UG cart & extension wings are listed in the KS60 accessories as specific to the KS60.

.....they fit from the KS120......there are also specific legs for the KS60. I will post some pictures later this evening
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #55 on: December 01, 2016, 01:33 PM »
We should be having a play with one of these soon. 8)
I'll report back but looks to be useful addition to the Armoury! [smile]

I look forward to that.  I'd also like to know if it will be compatible with the existing UG frame and extensions for the 120.

....the KS60 fits via an adapter plate....cool piece of kit
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #56 on: December 01, 2016, 05:41 PM »
We should be having a play with one of these soon. 8)
I'll report back but looks to be useful addition to the Armoury! [smile]
Let me know, I want to come and play! Seriously, I'm wonderng if one would make a good replacemengt for my eWalt DW771 216mm SCMS
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #57 on: December 01, 2016, 06:35 PM »
Hello
Will the kapex ks 60 cut a 2x6 (North American units) in one pass?  That is to say what is the travel of the cut at 90 degrees and 90 degrees?  The technical data suggest 6 cm of travel, a distance that seems especially short. Perhaps we can work around some this be raising the 2x6?

Come to think of the hk55 issue, wil the kapex ks 60 cut a 2x4 in one pass at either 45 degrees on the bevel or 45 degrees on the miter ?

Thanks


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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #58 on: December 01, 2016, 07:44 PM »
^^ not sure I've ever used a mitre saw that can't do this. Looking at the pictures of the KS60 there is no doubt the saw can do those cuts!

Not sure if you were just making a joke based around all that HKC chat gone before. . .  [smile]
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #59 on: December 01, 2016, 08:32 PM »
specs are clearly on site crosscuts 12" at 90 and 8.5' at 45. The spec that one should take notice of is 1200 watts, 10 amps at 120, not exactly over powered but we shall see.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #60 on: December 02, 2016, 03:04 AM »
We should be having a play with one of these soon. 8)
I'll report back but looks to be useful addition to the Armoury! [smile]
Let me know, I want to come and play! Seriously, I'm wonderng if one would make a good replacemengt for my eWalt DW771 216mm SCMS

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #61 on: December 02, 2016, 12:35 PM »
Hopefully this will also be made cordless

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #62 on: December 03, 2016, 07:21 AM »
Hi
 So the KS60 is coming in 2017  [big grin]....and some images to get an idea of it. Any questions post here and I will get back to you. Available as 240v and 110v..........
LED light......



Storage underneath the adaptor plate for blades


With the UG legs



Spindle lock and limited depth of cut lever



Folded on the UG stand
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #63 on: December 03, 2016, 08:55 AM »
Hi
....the four green screws on the underside of the adaptor plate are used for levelling the saw when it is in position. The saw can then be fixed into position with four Allen key bolts.
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #64 on: December 03, 2016, 09:53 AM »
Phil,

Is the cart kapex60 the same as the cart for the Kapex120?

Thanks already Ocram.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #65 on: December 03, 2016, 11:51 AM »
Phil,

Is the cart kapex60 the same as the cart for the Kapex120?

Thanks already Ocram.

Hi Ocram
 Yes it is the same
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #66 on: December 03, 2016, 11:54 AM »
Hi
 The legs for the KS120/88 will fit the KS60 adaptor plate. However, the two saws are different in width so a new set is available specific to the KS60
https://www.festool.co.uk/Products/Accessories/Pages/Detail.aspx?pid=201909&name=Accessories-for-KS-60-sliding-compound-mitre-saw-KA-UG-KS-60-R-L
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #67 on: December 03, 2016, 05:56 PM »
The ks-60 is a shallower depth of cut? Does it cut other materials as well or just the baby brother of the ks-120? Pricing the same as the current offer.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #68 on: December 03, 2016, 06:03 PM »
The ks-60 is a shallower depth of cut? Does it cut other materials as well or just the baby brother of the ks-120? Pricing the same as the current offer.

Hi
Max depth of cut 60mm
Max width of cut 305mm
Blades available for timber including a 60t fine cut, plastics, non ferrous. Pricing is for the dealer to determine RRP is on the web site
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #69 on: December 04, 2016, 08:01 AM »
Hi
 The legs for the KS120/88 will fit the KS60 adaptor plate. However, the two saws are different in width so a new set is available specific to the KS60
https://www.festool.co.uk/Products/Accessories/Pages/Detail.aspx?pid=201909&name=Accessories-for-KS-60-sliding-compound-mitre-saw-KA-UG-KS-60-R-L
RG
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Aha,.....that's where I made my mistake Phil. I looked at the Festool site and in the accessories list for the KS60 saw that the leg set was a different number to the KS120 leg set.
My apologies....!!!

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #70 on: December 04, 2016, 01:26 PM »
Nice to see we'll be getting a 110 volt version in the UK for site use  [drooling]   I can see another hit on my bank balance coming soon.......

Maybe it will be NAINA after all, guys. Pity it isn't the other way round for the Domino 700 and LS130 - I'd love to see tham in 110 volt
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #71 on: December 05, 2016, 09:50 AM »
I went to check this today. Maybe you know these already, but just in case.

KS 60 don't have specific clamps like KS 120. You can use normal Festool clamps instead (FSZ 120 / FS-HZ 160). That means you can't clamp wide  boards when cutting. On saw table there are holes for clamps and they are covered with board.

Extensions are same as in KS 120, but scales differ because of saw width. KS 60 extensions spread over 2500 mm.

Add 40 mm backing when trenching.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #72 on: December 05, 2016, 12:01 PM »
I went to check this today. Maybe you know these already, but just in case.

KS 60 don't have specific clamps like KS 120. You can use normal Festool clamps instead (FSZ 120 / FS-HZ 160). That means you can't clamp wide  boards when cutting. On saw table there are holes for clamps and they are covered with board.

Extensions are same as in KS 120, but scales differ because of saw width. KS 60 extensions spread over 2500 mm.

Add 40 mm backing when trenching.

....a clamp is supplied with each machine
rg
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #73 on: December 05, 2016, 01:14 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but does the adapter plate, for the UG frame, not take the offset into account for the existing UG extensions?
Bit of a -up if it doesn't!
I was looking to get this saw with the frame/adapter only, as I already have the extensions, but may also hold off if there's a chance of a cordless version in the pipeline. Motor has similar power to TS/HK saws, which already have cordless variants, so don't see a problem in producing it.
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #74 on: December 05, 2016, 01:37 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but does the adapter plate, for the UG frame, not take the offset into account for the existing UG extensions?
Bit of a -up if it doesn't!
I was looking to get this saw with the frame/adapter only, as I already have the extensions, but may also hold off if there's a chance of a cordless version in the pipeline. Motor has similar power to TS/HK saws, which already have cordless variants, so don't see a problem in producing it.
Alan

That is what they told me in Festool Finland. Same extensions, but scale is different.

Actually they told that KS 60 is getting its own cart / frame later. Maybe Phil can confirm this?

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #75 on: December 05, 2016, 02:18 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but does the adapter plate, for the UG frame, not take the offset into account for the existing UG extensions?
Bit of a -up if it doesn't!
I was looking to get this saw with the frame/adapter only, as I already have the extensions, but may also hold off if there's a chance of a cordless version in the pipeline. Motor has similar power to TS/HK saws, which already have cordless variants, so don't see a problem in producing it.
Alan

That is what they told me in Festool Finland. Same extensions, but scale is different.

Actually they told that KS 60 is getting its own cart / frame later. Maybe Phil can confirm this?

Vesa

Hi
The current leg extensions fit but the scale is off. The KS60 has its own leg extensions available so the measurements are correct.
The UG frame will not be changed and will fit both saws.
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #76 on: December 05, 2016, 02:21 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but does the adapter plate, for the UG frame, not take the offset into account for the existing UG extensions?
Bit of a -up if it doesn't!
I was looking to get this saw with the frame/adapter only, as I already have the extensions, but may also hold off if there's a chance of a cordless version in the pipeline. Motor has similar power to TS/HK saws, which already have cordless variants, so don't see a problem in producing it.
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Hi
 No current plan for cordless version. The difference I width between the two saws is quite considerable hence the adaptor plate.
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #77 on: December 06, 2016, 09:13 AM »
KS 60 don't have specific clamps like KS 120. You can use normal Festool clamps instead (FSZ 120 / FS-HZ 160). That means you can't clamp wide  boards when cutting. On saw table there are holes for clamps and they are covered with board.

....a clamp is supplied with each machine

From what I've seen, there appear to be clamp slots at the front *and* the back of the bed, so you can use a normal Festool clamp from behind the fence to hold the piece when cutting a wide board.

[EDIT] Diagram from manual showing clamping from the rear in the same way that the clamps are used on the KS 120.


« Last Edit: December 06, 2016, 09:52 AM by GarryMartin »

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #78 on: December 06, 2016, 10:02 AM »
KS 60 don't have specific clamps like KS 120. You can use normal Festool clamps instead (FSZ 120 / FS-HZ 160). That means you can't clamp wide  boards when cutting. On saw table there are holes for clamps and they are covered with board.

....a clamp is supplied with each machine

From what I've seen, there appear to be clamp slots at the front *and* the back of the bed, so you can use a normal Festool clamp from behind the fence to hold the piece when cutting a wide board.


Thanks for correction. I was wondering why Festool did something halfway...

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #79 on: December 06, 2016, 10:46 AM »
Vesa,
Apologies, if you thought that I doubted you, I am just surprised at the oversight from Festool's engineers.
The extensions are expensive, so having to get another set, to do exactly the same thing, is asking a lot.
The fact that the adapter is made to fit on the existing cart, would it not have made more sense to allow the same extensions.
Imagine that you have both models of the saws set up on their carts and you inadvertently put the wrong extensions on each saw, you are going to make a lot of mistakes before you realise the error. I know they have a label on the top, but when you're setting up on site, usually in a hurry, that could easily be missed.
You shouldn't have to second guess the scale, and calculate each time you need to make a cut. That is why we pay so much more for Festool products, they should be right from the start.
Phil, thanks for the reply regarding the lack of a cordless variant anytime soon.
Once again, Festool are behind the market trend, when it comes to releasing new products.
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #80 on: December 06, 2016, 01:25 PM »
AJCruise, not at all.
I wondered it too, question is not relevant to me because I don't have those. You summarised  the problem very well.


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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #81 on: December 06, 2016, 05:32 PM »
I kind of like it. But, when looking at the size - it isn't particularly small. It is quite bulky and large for the cut capacity.
Also, looking at the weight it is a whopping 17,8 kg - that is quite heavy. It is almost five kilos more than my Makita LS0714 - which is also a very capable saw. 

Well, it is still 0,5 kg lighter than the Metabo KG SYM though I honestly feel like the Metabo might be more of what I am looking for in this size/capacity mitre saw.

I would have bought this Kapex 60  over a Kapex 120 for sure - but considering the options I am not so sure I would replace any of my saws with this.

I have been looking forward to a smaller Kapex for many years but I am not that impressed.
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« Reply #82 on: December 07, 2016, 04:09 AM »
Hi, I will soon replace my old saw with a KS 60 (or KS 120) and has a question about the new KS 60...

I have a TS 75 with (210 mm blade) with lots of different blades, Can I use these blades on KS 60 (blade 216 mm) ?

It differs only 6mm (210 vs 216 ) how important the differens ?

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« Reply #83 on: December 07, 2016, 04:25 AM »
Hi, I will soon replace my old saw with a KS 60 (or KS 120) and has a question about the new KS 60...

I have a TS 75 with (210 mm blade) with lots of different blades, Can I use these blades on KS 60 (blade 216 mm) ?

It differs only 6mm (210 vs 216 ) how important the differens ?

/ Nimos

The depth of cut will obviously be less. I might be wrong here but I'm sure the tooth shape is different on chopsaw blades.  Im sure they need a negative rake design which the ts75 may not have. I'm no expert though.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #84 on: December 07, 2016, 04:32 AM »
Kinda sucks that the extension calibrations are different between the 120 and the 60, but I tend to use the 120 as a station and cut to length and I use my small Metabo SCMS I have to cut to mark. Yeh .. usage may differ [tongue]

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #85 on: December 07, 2016, 07:58 AM »
I don't see guys using an FSZ 1xx to hold down material with this thing. Too slow and too sloppy.

I agree FT seems to be missing the boat by not offering cordless with this.  Phil, could you elaborate on the thinking behind this decesion ?

Feels a lot like the decesion to not offer compact drill/drivers until recently.


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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #86 on: December 07, 2016, 08:44 AM »
.....I agree FT seems to be missing the boat by not offering cordless with this.  Phil, could you elaborate on the thinking behind this decesion ?

Feels a lot like the decesion to not offer compact drill/drivers until recently.

I'm not convinced there won't be a cordless version.  Let's wait 6-8 months and see.  I have no inside knowledge, just pure speculation on my part. 
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #87 on: December 07, 2016, 09:36 AM »
@ginge
      "The depth of cut will obviously be less. I might be wrong here but I'm sure the tooth shape is different on chopsaw       blades.  Im sure they need a negative rake design which the ts75 may not have. I'm no expert though."

I thought, and am probably incorrect, that if the saw (moving) was being presented to the wood (stationary), a negative rake was desired, whereas, if the wood (moving) is presented to the saw (stationary) the rake should be positive.  With both the Miter/Chop/SCMS and the Plunge/TS saws the wood is stationary.  Please help clear this up for me.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #88 on: December 07, 2016, 10:17 AM »
@ginge
      "The depth of cut will obviously be less. I might be wrong here but I'm sure the tooth shape is different on chopsaw       blades.  Im sure they need a negative rake design which the ts75 may not have. I'm no expert though."

I thought, and am probably incorrect, that if the saw (moving) was being presented to the wood (stationary), a negative rake was desired, whereas, if the wood (moving) is presented to the saw (stationary) the rake should be positive.  With both the Miter/Chop/SCMS and the Plunge/TS saws the wood is stationary.  Please help clear this up for me.
Thanks
Does not matter what's moving and what's stationary. Rip blades have high angle, cross cut - low to 0 angle, metal and plastic - 0 to negative angle.
SCMS blades tend to have lower angle than TS blades for equivalent material in order to minimize climbing. For example, Kapex fine cross cut is -5 deg., while TS75 fine cross cut is +5 deg. However, unlike Festool brand, most SCMS cross cut blades have low positive angle. I think TS75 cross cut will work on KS60 if arbor is the same.
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #89 on: December 07, 2016, 10:48 AM »
@Svar

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #90 on: December 09, 2016, 04:54 PM »
First post on fog!! I have the hk55 and love it, wondering if there a planed north america release for this saw? i can't justify getting the bigger kapex given that i have a tope of the line dewalt and while it might make more airborne dust, it is 12" and dead on accurate, i would love a smaller portable saw that I could but on a stack of Systainers on the job would be perfect!
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #91 on: December 09, 2016, 04:59 PM »
@backhoebb

 [welcome] to the FOG! The smaller KS60 was very recently announced Internationally. Typically it takes 8-12 months for new items to migrate over to N America, and not all products make it here. There has been no official word if or when the KS60 will be available here.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #92 on: December 12, 2016, 04:42 PM »
Subcontractor carpenter here.
Looks a good practical size for sitework.
The big saws are too bloody numb to be karting about up several flights of stairs and back everyday. Lot of blokes have a massive scms and it hardly comes out the van after a month or so.
I've used a little Makita for the last twelve or so years, great little thing that only cuts upto about 130mm. Small enough to carry with ease and fits into my toolsafe with all the other stuff I have in there. Plus it cuts any studs I need to make and also most of my work is in commercial properties so the

I'm sure there's a market for this saw as personally I wouldn't want something as big and numb as a Kapex 120 unless I had a workshop.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #93 on: December 12, 2016, 05:53 PM »
Why will this be better than a KS88?  Looks like its only very slightly smaller and lighter, for less cutting depth.

Update: Looks like it will be cheaper too.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2016, 05:55 PM by turnpike »

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #94 on: December 12, 2016, 06:27 PM »
^^^ unlike the KS88 (Which is a KS120 minus some features) the KS60 has an imptoved(?) laser guide line or actually an LED shadow line. And it comes with the Festool mitre gauge. And it's cheaper..
there's nothing like the right tool for the job

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #95 on: December 12, 2016, 06:51 PM »
I was advised of a new cordless smaller Kapex to hit the Australian market earlier 2017 so my bet is there will be 2 versions released
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #96 on: December 12, 2016, 07:05 PM »
That's not the info we've got around here from the U.K. and U.S. reps.
No cordless version that is.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #97 on: December 18, 2016, 03:16 AM »
I would be interested to see if the dust extraction is as good as the existing Kapex saws. That could sway a lot o people one way or the other.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #98 on: December 23, 2016, 05:29 AM »
vs KS120

[pros]
+Belting instead of plastic reduction gear. Yes, much quieter and easy to repair.
+Led spotlight. Yes, hate lasers (adj. every year, trouble with differents blades, too thick line at night, easy to brake even with single chip when cutting).
+17,8 kg vs 21.5 kg.
+Bevel at the back of the saw. We should remove bevel at KS120 with angle cuts anyway.
+Additional positions for clamps at the left and the right of the saw.
+Can 1mm cutting depth for sawing slots like plunge-cut saw (without any adjustment as KS120).

[cons]
-No Fast Stop (called Quick-acting brake) due to belting. x3-x4 more stopping time and there is no system like "non stop forced braking" for fine cutting.
-No Fast Fix. At KS120 we can easy disable the saw with this feature (mechanical locks start button), much safety.
-No angle dial for fine adjustment. Its the best KS120 feature - ultra visible dial even at night.
-No fine adjustment of the saw blade angle (no spring's counterweight).
-Lamb screw instead of the single button.
-Bevel installing only along two small lines (it can be erased in 4-5 years).

KS120 just better. So still waiting new KS120 with LEDs and holes for clamps (maybe with belting gear) and adjustment for plunge cutting. Marketing is not allowed to add to KS60 same radius limb and counterweight when changing angle as KS120.
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #99 on: April 21, 2017, 05:59 AM »
So I am considering upgrading my Hitachi C10FSH which has served me great (with aftermarket blades). I would like to keep it as compact as possible. I do not move often and this will only be for hobby/DIY projects. Also dust collections is a concern. Still no reason for it to be bigger than necessary (or more expensive).

Right now I am a bit torn between the KS60 and KS120. Particularly I have a question regarding cut capacity. Sometimes I do 45 cuts on 2x4 (European, so that would be 48 mm). From the specs it says that it only does 40 mm in 45 degree tilt. Would anyone be able to confirm if the 40 mm spec is absolute? I know from other saws that sometimes they can to cuts outside the specs so I am a bit curious if this is also possible on the KS60. Would it be possible for someone with the saw to investigate this? Would be greatly appreciated. For instance would it be possible to space it from the underside? From the blade size it seems it should be possible to do a 45 degree cut down through around 50 mm but this of course is dependent on other aspects as well. I do not do these cuts often, but when I do it would be nice to be able to do them without too much effort.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #100 on: April 21, 2017, 09:30 AM »
Actually I found maybe what I am looking for in this video



At 3:35 he cuts 73 mm. Given a 45 tilt on that gives a bit over 51 mm. Also Dave Stanton mentions "very close to 50 mm" in his video, so we are cutting it close...would anyone care to confirm this by an actual 45 degree cut on a material that is say 49 mm thick? Maybe the 2x4 can be cut at 45 standing without using the slider mechanism. Would be nice if someone could test this.
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #101 on: May 06, 2017, 01:50 PM »
Would anyone be able to test this?  If so that would be very helpful.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #102 on: May 06, 2017, 03:32 PM »
Hi,

If you are on YT, ask Mike in the comment section of his video - He's on vacation until the 8th, but I'm pretty sure he'll answer your question once he's back.

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #103 on: May 07, 2017, 12:09 AM »
Subcontractor carpenter here.
Looks a good practical size for sitework.
The big saws are too bloody numb to be karting about up several flights of stairs and back everyday. Lot of blokes have a massive scms and it hardly comes out the van after a month or so.
I've used a little Makita for the last twelve or so years, great little thing that only cuts upto about 130mm. Small enough to carry with ease and fits into my toolsafe with all the other stuff I have in there. Plus it cuts any studs I need to make and also most of my work is in commercial properties so the

I'm sure there's a market for this saw as personally I wouldn't want something as big and numb as a Kapex 120 unless I had a workshop.

You would hate this thing then, this is what I have. https://www.milwaukeetool.com/power-tools/corded/6955-20 65 lbs of pure misery.  I use it in my shop but I would love to have a nice small option for bringing with me.  I tend to do outdoor and siding for others a lot and a little framing for them here and there.  Any chance we would ever see the hk 60 in the states?

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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #104 on: July 13, 2017, 10:49 AM »
NAINA is probably the fate of this for 110v.   I can't see them bringing this here to compete with the Kapex.

The other issue is that the floor covering industry is not where the highest skilled workers land and hence the pay is pretty crappy.  This doesn't lend itself to guys buying $$$$ saws.  The trim guys aren't going to buy a small saw because small blades are............well let's just say they aren't going to buy it either. So, I don't really see a big market for this here.

I think it would do well, for the DIY that wants a good saw to redo all the trim in their house. Makita has a new small saw coming out that looks pretty slick and supposed to have good dust extraction.
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Re: New Kapex KS60
« Reply #105 on: August 06, 2017, 04:40 PM »
At 3:35 he cuts 73 mm. Given a 45 tilt on that gives a bit over 51 mm. Also Dave Stanton mentions "very close to 50 mm" in his video

Sorry to ask a question in a slightly older thread.
Looking at the video higher up where the 0 degree cut occurs @73mm, I'm making the assumption that it will handle a 69mmx69mm cut too.

How is the 73mm being achieved though? Is it by default because it is right at the fence?