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Offline mwildt

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Re: New products for January 2018 (Europe) - Facelift for 26, 36, 48
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2017, 07:26 PM »
Guess not possible to use with ct22 then ? Nor is there a hose with plug it ?

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Re: New products for January 2018 (Europe) - Facelift for 26, 36, 48
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2017, 07:58 PM »
If you are talking about the bluetooth accessory - no it won't.  I saw some of these products - AND MORE - a few weeks ago and asked because I have a CT-22 myself.

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« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2017, 02:20 AM »
I take a midi with me on site I don't want to be lugging a ct 26 around. l hope the Smaller extractors get the bluetooth as well.

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« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2017, 06:33 AM »
I saw some of these products - AND MORE - a few weeks ago […].
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Now we are REALLY curious. When are the drapes being lifted?
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Re: New products for January 2018 (Europe) - Facelift for 26, 36, 48
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2017, 07:09 AM »
New BT battery looks interesting, so will these come included with any new TSC 55 and T18+3 ?

As others have noted, pity it doesn't work with the smaller extractors ...

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« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2017, 07:19 AM »
New BT battery looks interesting, so will these come included with any new TSC 55 and T18+3 ?

As others have noted, pity it doesn't work with the smaller extractors ...
Also pity that it has to fully occupy the module bay, instead of being integrated into an outlet module.

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Re: New products for January 2018 (Europe) - Facelift for 26, 36, 48
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2017, 08:23 AM »
I saw some of these products - AND MORE - a few weeks ago […].
Peter

Now we are REALLY curious. When are the drapes being lifted?

Phil has been lifting drapes.  More drapes will be lifted if and when he is able  [popcorn].  As far as on this side of the pond, @TylerC will be the one lifting them when he is able.  I saw some stuff but have no idea if or when they will make it over here.

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Re: New products for January 2018 (Europe) - Facelift for 26, 36, 48
« Reply #37 on: December 05, 2017, 08:33 AM »
There's no NA announcement yet. However, I've seen the new hoses, and they are incredible. I never thought I'd be so excited about suction hoses.

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Re: New products for January 2018 (Europe) - Facelift for 26, 36, 48
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2017, 09:23 AM »
There's no NA announcement yet. However, I've seen the new hoses, and they are incredible. I never thought I'd be so excited about suction hoses.

Ditto.  Can't wait for these to be available in NA !

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Re: New products for January 2018 (Europe) - Facelift for 26, 36, 48
« Reply #39 on: December 05, 2017, 09:31 AM »
Will the new bluetooth/manual button on the hose operate essentially the same way as Rick Christopherson's MAXSYS product?  The MAXSYS has been a godsend for convenience.

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« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2017, 09:35 AM »
I was just about to take the plunge on my first vacuum, today actually.  Now to hold out or not?

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« Reply #41 on: December 05, 2017, 09:41 AM »
I was just about to take the plunge on my first vacuum, today actually.  Now to hold out or not?

If you're in NA I'd go ahead and get one of the 26/36/48 models. Who knows when we will get the new version. The BT module seems to retrofit. If in the UK then. .hold out a bit.

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« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2017, 10:09 AM »
Will the new bluetooth/manual button on the hose operate essentially the same way as Rick Christopherson's MAXSYS product?  The MAXSYS has been a godsend for convenience.

I believe they're both birds of the same feather. Which would explain why Festool didn't release the bluetooth option for the MINI or MIDI. Both of those vacs need different circuit boards to enable BT.

What would be nice though is if Festool redesigned the boards for the MINI & MIDI and at the same time incorporated the extra circuitry needed for the BT option on the new circuit board, as space within the vacs is tight for add-on modules.

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Re: New products for January 2018 (Europe) - Facelift for 26, 36, 48
« Reply #43 on: December 05, 2017, 10:19 AM »
Will the new bluetooth/manual button on the hose operate essentially the same way as Rick Christopherson's MAXSYS product?  The MAXSYS has been a godsend for convenience.

Hi
 Press the button on the end of the hose and this is picked up by the Bluetooth module.... [smile]. If a Bluetooth battery has been 'paired' then this will automatically start the extractor when the cordless is switched on.... [smile]
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Re: New products for January 2018 (Europe) - Facelift for 26, 36, 48
« Reply #44 on: December 05, 2017, 10:31 AM »
Sleeved hoses with a manual start!!!!!

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« Reply #45 on: December 05, 2017, 10:34 AM »
I was just about to take the plunge on my first vacuum, today actually.  Now to hold out or not?

How long could you wait?

6 months (my guesstimate when the new extractors will be released to the NA market)?

If I were you (provided you have an alternative vac solution in the interim), I would definitely wait. A retrofitted CT is not the same as the factory version: not only may you need an electrician to do the retrofit (I am no electrician), but also the new hose is the way to go. The new ones have other features that a retrofitted one won't be able to offer.

I should also add that if I were looking for a CT and someone offered his (in used but excellent cond.) to me with a 30% discount today, I would still pass. The jump from the current generation of extractors to the one we see in the video is a nice surprise. (I sold my CT26 a few years ago; I now have room to come back for the new one!)
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Re: New products for January 2018 (Europe) - Facelift for 26, 36, 48
« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2017, 10:42 AM »
I was just about to take the plunge on my first vacuum, today actually.  Now to hold out or not?

Here in the US we have not had a totally predictable release schedule based on a timeframe in other parts of the world, especially when it comes to items with motors that have to go thru testing processes.  If you are in need of an extractor go ahead and purchase now.  The quality of life aspect will kick in right away.

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Re: New products for January 2018 (Europe) - Facelift for 26, 36, 48
« Reply #47 on: December 05, 2017, 11:01 AM »
I am in NA.  I am in need of some sort of dust collection as I am starting a bunch of built in's for the house I just remodeled.  I can't wait six months, I'll just get it and see what happens down the road.

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« Reply #48 on: December 05, 2017, 11:34 AM »
You would think with all the new US marketing Festool has done lately, they would stop this NAINA BS.


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« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2017, 11:52 AM »
Safety testing & certification (UL for Canada) does take time, unfortunately. I came across some excellent products in the States, but upon inquiry, I found out they were not available in Canada because of UL certification issues.

Since Festool has done such certifications before for CTs, I am hoping that the certification process won't drag out too long. In the meantime, I have a dust collector and three shop vacs meeting my shop needs.


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Re: New products for January 2018 (Europe) - Facelift for 26, 36, 48
« Reply #50 on: December 05, 2017, 12:02 PM »
What would be nice though is if Festool redesigned the boards for the MINI & MIDI and at the same time incorporated the extra circuitry needed for the BT option on the new circuit board, as space within the vacs is tight for add-on modules.

I wouldn't be surprised if they have already redesigned the Mini/Midi and are sitting on it to sell the more of the larger (more profitable) vacs first.  In 10-12 months from now you'll see them. 
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« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2017, 12:07 PM »
Will the new bluetooth/manual button on the hose operate essentially the same way as Rick Christopherson's MAXSYS product?  The MAXSYS has been a godsend for convenience.

Hi
 Press the button on the end of the hose and this is picked up by the Bluetooth module.... [smile]. If a Bluetooth battery has been 'paired' then this will automatically start the extractor when the cordless is switched on.... [smile]
rg
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If I understand you correctly Phil the BT remote on the hose end will not actuate the CT unless the CT has been paired with a BT battery, even if that battery is not in use at the time.

So, if I had a BT battery paired to the CT, and was using a tool with a battery other than the BT battery paired to the CVT, I could start/stop the CT using the manual remote on the hose end.

But, conversely, if no BT battery has been paired to the CT the manual remote button on the hose will not work.
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Re: New products for January 2018 (Europe) - Facelift for 26, 36, 48
« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2017, 12:25 PM »
Will the new bluetooth/manual button on the hose operate essentially the same way as Rick Christopherson's MAXSYS product?  The MAXSYS has been a godsend for convenience.

Hi
 Press the button on the end of the hose and this is picked up by the Bluetooth module.... [smile]. If a Bluetooth battery has been 'paired' then this will automatically start the extractor when the cordless is switched on.... [smile]
rg
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If I understand you correctly Phil the BT remote on the hose end will not actuate the CT unless the CT has been paired with a BT battery, even if that battery is not in use at the time.

So, if I had a BT battery paired to the CT, and was using a tool with a battery other than the BT battery paired to the CVT, I could start/stop the CT using the manual remote on the hose end.

But, conversely, if no BT battery has been paired to the CT the manual remote button on the hose will not work.

The remote and the receiver are already paired as sold. Press the button and the CT works. If you have a BT battery this can be paired with the reciever and the extractor will work when the cordless tool is switched on
Rg
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Re: New products for January 2018 (Europe) - Facelift for 26, 36, 48
« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2017, 03:33 PM »
The new hoses looks very nice. How is the flexibility compared to the old hoses? Do they exhibit the same "memory effect" as the old hoses when they are stored in the hose garage?

The bluetooth vacuums are also great! Would like a MIDI with bluetooth though.

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Re: New products for January 2018 (Europe) - Facelift for 26, 36, 48
« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2017, 04:30 PM »
The new hoses looks very nice. How is the flexibility compared to the old hoses? Do they exhibit the same "memory effect" as the old hoses when they are stored in the hose garage?

The bluetooth vacuums are also great! Would like a MIDI with bluetooth though.

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 Tomorrow I will post some more images of the hose ..... [smile]
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« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2017, 05:09 PM »
The new hoses looks very nice. How is the flexibility compared to the old hoses? Do they exhibit the same "memory effect" as the old hoses when they are stored in the hose garage?

They're probably even stiffer. It's the same hose with an extra sleeve.

But I find hoses are only stiff when they're new. After a couple of months of use they'll become more supple.

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« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2017, 05:38 PM »
The new hoses looks very nice. How is the flexibility compared to the old hoses? Do they exhibit the same "memory effect" as the old hoses when they are stored in the hose garage?

They're probably even stiffer. It's the same hose with an extra sleeve.

But I find hoses are only stiff when they're new. After a couple of months of use they'll become more supple.

Alex, they aren't the old hoses with a sleeve.  They are more flexible and lighter.  The outside of the hose is smooth and the interior ribs are smaller I was told.  If you look at the image that Phil posted with the hose around a piece of wood you will see what I mean.  I asked if I could take the end off of the one I saw but was asked not to whereas that was the only one Festool USA had at the time.

I love the fact that for transport you can loop it together and lock it together and that if you need a longer hose you can lock two together without any additional fittings or changing our hose ends.

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« Reply #57 on: December 05, 2017, 05:52 PM »

Hi
 Tomorrow I will post some more images of the hose ..... [smile]

More images?!

Note to self: Better start saving money for this new CT26 NOW!

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« Reply #58 on: December 05, 2017, 06:09 PM »
The new hoses looks very nice. How is the flexibility compared to the old hoses? Do they exhibit the same "memory effect" as the old hoses when they are stored in the hose garage?

They're probably even stiffer. It's the same hose with an extra sleeve.

But I find hoses are only stiff when they're new. After a couple of months of use they'll become more supple.

Alex, they aren't the old hoses with a sleeve.  They are more flexible and lighter.  The outside of the hose is smooth and the interior ribs are smaller I was told.  If you look at the image that Phil posted with the hose around a piece of wood you will see what I mean.  I asked if I could take the end off of the one I saw but was asked not to whereas that was the only one Festool USA had at the time.

I love the fact that for transport you can loop it together and lock it together and that if you need a longer hose you can lock two together without any additional fittings or changing our hose ends.

Peter

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Re: New products for January 2018 (Europe) - Facelift for 26, 36, 48
« Reply #59 on: December 05, 2017, 06:10 PM »
BlueTooth Battery Packs?  Is that new or already available?

....new for Europe 2018
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