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Offline Jmacpherson

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Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #60 on: November 05, 2018, 01:56 PM »
If anything new was at Festool connect 2018 the attendees won't share any material on social media/internet until those products have launched.

I was at a Festool roadshow here in South Africa mid October and the rep mentioned to us that he has something exciting (guess that means new?) to share with us but we have to wait about 3 months. So I'm guessing Jan 2019 product launches.

I don't need a Festool impact, have a great Makita already but if they get it right it will be very tempting.

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Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #61 on: November 07, 2018, 05:23 PM »
TKS80 is intriguing as it indicates a deviation from the pull-saw CS50/70 varieties. Tisch-Kreis-Säge simply means "table(circular)saw" and the others are listed as "pull-saws" in german. It might share add ons from the CS70 and if so could be a potentially great small workshop saw? 

Oh well, the impact is on the shortlist. Unless they screwed it up like the Ti15 it is a welcome addition for me.
A cordless Vecturo is nice but I got that tool covered by another brand or two already.



HmmmI wonder if festool is now selling the saw stop under their own name as they recently aquired it and had one one at Festool connect ( still under the saw stop brand name).

I didn't know Festool acquired Saw Stop, and that would make sense; offering a Festool table saw with the saw stop feature.
Will be quite expensive of course...
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DSC-AG Grinder,  RAS 115
Rotex 150, ETS EC 150/5 RTS400
Drills: T18, BHC18, CXS.
SysLite KAL II, SYS Rock.
Sys- and Sortainers galore.

Line up has been reduced with the introduction of Mafell/Metabo tools. Red Green and Blue do mix well in the shop.

Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #62 on: November 07, 2018, 05:24 PM »
If anything new was at Festool connect 2018 the attendees won't share any material on social media/internet until those products have launched.

I was at a Festool roadshow here in South Africa mid October and the rep mentioned to us that he has something exciting (guess that means new?) to share with us but we have to wait about 3 months. So I'm guessing Jan 2019 product launches.

I don't need a Festool impact, have a great Makita already but if they get it right it will be very tempting.

I am covered with the Hitachi triple hammer but if Festool makes a really really nice one it would be hard to resist for me.
Festool:  CS 50EB precisio set, Domino DF500, DF XL 700, OFK500 edge router, OF1010 router EHL65 planer, CTL Mini/Midi Vac, CTL 26 vac MFT800+1080 tables
DSC-AG Grinder,  RAS 115
Rotex 150, ETS EC 150/5 RTS400
Drills: T18, BHC18, CXS.
SysLite KAL II, SYS Rock.
Sys- and Sortainers galore.

Line up has been reduced with the introduction of Mafell/Metabo tools. Red Green and Blue do mix well in the shop.

Offline jimbo51

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Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #63 on: November 07, 2018, 05:37 PM »
TSK 80 with 210 or 260 mm blade?

If they include SawStop technology, I would guess 260 so as to minimize changes to cartridge.

Will they include a pull saw feature like Mafell or would that compete with Kapex too much?

What will be the advantage of the Festool saw in Europe where I assume the Bosch is still selling their flesh detecting blade stopping saw?

After underestimating the Woodpecker slab tool so much, I do not think I will try to guess the price of the TSK 80.

Offline Gregor

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Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #64 on: November 07, 2018, 06:21 PM »
TSK 80 with 210 or 260 mm blade?
Given festools model names of the past any numbers either denote power requirements (as with the routers) or cutting capacity (as with the TS). So my guess would be the 80 is ment in mm - as the TS 75 uses a 210mm blade and (in rail or CMS use) has 70mm capacity 210 would be too small, the 260mm one (that gives 88mm in the kapex and given a little deeper mounting of the axis as of the retract mechanic) could end up at 80mm.

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If they include SawStop technology, I would guess 260 so as to minimize changes to cartridge.
My guess is they will (it would be quite pointless to buy SawStop if they wouldn't use the technology) and I hope they'll use the same blades that go into the Kapex 88/120. That's at least what I would do as product manager: already existing consumeables both keep production/stocking costs down and do not turn off my customers by forcing to get yet another set of blades.

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What will be the advantage of the Festool saw in Europe where I assume the Bosch is still selling their flesh detecting blade stopping saw?
Bosch dosn't seem to sell them in Germany (havn't checked rest of Europe).

Offline Svar

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Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #65 on: November 07, 2018, 06:59 PM »
I hope they'll use the same blades that go into the Kapex 88/120. That's at least what I would do as product manager: already existing consumeables both keep production/stocking costs down and do not turn off my customers by forcing to get yet another set of blades.
Miter (specifically SCMS) and table saw blades are not interchangeable. Because of the degree of freedom during the plunge and how the material is supported SCMS require different tooth geometry to prevent climbing. Even Kapex 60t universal blade has -5 deg. hook angle. Compare it to cross cut table saw blades, which are usually +5 deg. Specialty blades are also different.
« Last Edit: November 09, 2018, 05:33 PM by Svar »

Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #66 on: November 09, 2018, 03:43 PM »
TSK 80 with 210 or 260 mm blade?

If they include SawStop technology, I would guess 260 so as to minimize changes to cartridge.

Will they include a pull saw feature like Mafell or would that compete with Kapex too much?

What will be the advantage of the Festool saw in Europe where I assume the Bosch is still selling their flesh detecting blade stopping saw?

After underestimating the Woodpecker slab tool so much, I do not think I will try to guess the price of the TSK 80.

I think the name gives away that it is not a pull saw, but a "regular" table saw.
Festool:  CS 50EB precisio set, Domino DF500, DF XL 700, OFK500 edge router, OF1010 router EHL65 planer, CTL Mini/Midi Vac, CTL 26 vac MFT800+1080 tables
DSC-AG Grinder,  RAS 115
Rotex 150, ETS EC 150/5 RTS400
Drills: T18, BHC18, CXS.
SysLite KAL II, SYS Rock.
Sys- and Sortainers galore.

Line up has been reduced with the introduction of Mafell/Metabo tools. Red Green and Blue do mix well in the shop.

Offline Svar

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Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #67 on: November 09, 2018, 04:03 PM »
I think the name [TSK] gives away that it is not a pull saw, but a "regular" table saw.
That would be unfortunate. Pull saw is a brilliant idea. You add cost and marginally weight, but don't compromise any other function by having pull capability.
« Last Edit: November 09, 2018, 04:06 PM by Svar »

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #68 on: November 10, 2018, 07:30 AM »
Since buying an ATF 55 in 2003 I’ve only used my very good table saw for ripping stuff less than a foot wide, and very small stuff.

I’ve long thought a portable table saw, as a companion to a plunge cut circular saw, should be in the form of something like a short plank, about 14” wide and 3 feet long, width a pair of wheels on the outboard end.

The new narrow mft add-on would be a good housing for such a portable table saw.
« Last Edit: Yesterday at 08:23 PM by Michael Kellough »

Offline rst

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Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #69 on: November 10, 2018, 10:14 AM »
Like Micheal, I also have a very good table saw...Powermatic 66 that I added a Jet sliding table (no longer available) and made it larger by adding 8020 2040 extrusions.  The only thing that I've use it for is thin rips and making slots for dividers using Freud's 1/4-3/8" slotting set.

Offline Greenhoe

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Re: New tools for 2019 including CTM Midi and Kapex updates among others
« Reply #70 on: November 10, 2018, 06:54 PM »
On eBay and Amazon a few Festool dealers are discounting the Kapex by 10% or more like they did with the previous tools each time a newer model came out so we should be hearing from Festool soon on the new Kapex.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2018, 06:57 PM by Greenhoe »

Offline adrianp

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I've been told that the new Kapex has a new lateral support system (added arms or something like this). Haven't seen it yet but I will probably soon.

Offline Peter Halle

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On eBay and Amazon a few Festool dealers are discounting the Kapex by 10% or more like they did with the previous tools each time a newer model came out so we should be hearing from Festool soon on the new Kapex.

If dealers in the US are discounting the Kapex then I suspect that they are doing it at their own risk.  I never trust ebay and Amazon prices advertised until the shopping cart number comes up.

Peter