Found some interesting bits while searching the Internet... 

Available from January 2019.

Updated: CTL MINI
Updated: CTL MIDI
NEW: CTM MIDI I

- Touch display including BT
- Hose garage with lid
- Main filter can be changed from outside



18V Battery back with BT function

- Ergopack for battery sander
- Compact battery



New jigsaw blade range

UPDATES
- Worktop template APS 900/2
- Semi-stationary saws CS 50 & 70, KS 88 & 120, SYM 70

Any info on the Kapex updates?

Never knew about that sym 70 saw.  Thats a clever little guy.

For North Americans, this will probably be most interesting on the Kapex and if an update is coming to N.A. (and when). While my big dewalt marches along it sucks from dust standpoint, if Kapex didn't have a smoking habit, I might consider one down the road.

is an announcement like this general a statement of all that is new for 2019, or do they trickle out new stuff announcements randomly thru the year.

Maybe it will be a hybrid option on power? New brushless motor would be a part of that. Festool would end up with a more versatile (possibly more powerful) tool and eliminate the number 1 issue (in perception at least) with a flagship tool.

Any info on the Kapex updates?

And keen to hear what has finally happened with the Kapex!!??

The only thing I can say with a good degree of certainty is there will be extendable arms judging by the photo. That and it will be called the KS 120 REB (or KS 88 RE) based on the photo and product list.

And on analysing some more information, it seems the TID 18 cordless impact finally sees the light of day, both on its own and in kits with the PDC 18 and T 18, there's a new cordless angle grinder, the DSC AGC 18, and an 18V version of the OS 400 oscillating tool too. Oh, and a *NEW* table saw called the TKS 80 which I have to assume would be something to do with SawStop... 

I'm a gadget freak and a LCD display on a vacuum sounds over the top even to me, but I suppose when you're paying these prices for it we should demand that it be a color display 

What that's Gary? An impact too! Don't believe it until i see it and a cordless angle grinder! Wow thats just what I wanted but thought the wait would be forever. If have thought a grinder would be well down their list..

Where are you getting all this from? Any more pics to share?

Thanks

Where are you getting all this from? Any more pics to share?

No more pics unfortunately.

It's all on the Internet. I don't have access to any privileged information. The existence of new tools comes from a Festool product list posted in September, and the photos of the new tools for January 2019 from a Prezi presentation posted earlier in the year.

I have the SYM 70E. Too expensive if bought new. Have bought two second hand ones and plug-it outfitted them. Both were bought at under half the asking price for a new one and in mint condition.

They are super for alu trim and odd angles. Will not let go of mine. However the little Makita DLS600z is a great contender with laser, even smaller size, weight and footprint and with dual bevel - and it's 18V with good runtime too. It is also a lot cheaper. Still not cheap though! The Makita is dangerous and ill suited for smaller alu trim though - but I've used the heck out of the above mitre saws and what they do they do very well.

 

Quote from: DeformedTree on October 25, 2018, 09:42 AM

Never knew about that sym 70 saw.  Thats a clever little guy.

For North Americans, this will probably be most interesting on the Kapex and if an update is coming to N.A. (and when). While my big dewalt marches along it sucks from dust standpoint, if Kapex didn't have a smoking habit, I might consider one down the road.

is an announcement like this general a statement of all that is new for 2019, or do they trickle out new stuff announcements randomly thru the year.

Maybe it will be a hybrid option on power? New brushless motor would be a part of that. Festool would end up with a more versatile (possibly more powerful) tool and eliminate the number 1 issue (in perception at least) with a flagship tool.

I was genuinely about to buy a cordless grinder and have to buy into a new battery platform to do so. So glad you posted because I can definitely wait for the festool and the extra simplicity that brings me

I wonder whether it will use the compact 18V battery platform?

They are super for alu trim and odd angles.

Quote from: DeformedTree on October 25, 2018, 09:42 AM

Never knew about that sym 70 saw.  Thats a clever little guy.

Thats basically what I was thinking, not so much for wood working (unless say picture frames are your game), but looked great for metal working.  I can see a V-block attachment for dealing with round material too.

Oh, and a *NEW* table saw called the TKS 80 which I have to assume would be something to do with SawStop... 

Interesting, I guess since they are advertising new CS saws, then it means those stay around.  I hope the CMS saw modules stay around too for those who make said items available to themselves in North America.   If they make it something that "drops in" to either CMS or the CS model line thus all the add ons it could be interesting.  Maybe this is something they make N.A. only that meets US "safety" regs for saws, while the homeland keeps what they have.  Though I really don't see how it's very hard to make tweaked versions of the saws for the 2 different safety rules markets. But if it was easy, then it wouldn't really explain why N.A. doesn't get CMS saw modules.

Where on earth did you get this info from @GarryMartin ?

Ooh, wonder what a CT 15 is?

Ooh, wonder what a CT 15 is?

Looking up the CT 15 in the parts list pulls up 574827 Mobile Dust Extractor. Google shows it as this:
Vacuum cleaner construction FESTOOL CLEANTEC CT 17 E (574827)

So with the cordless oscillating tool showing only 3.1 amp configurations, this looks like it might be based on the cordless sander batteries!

...contrary to the cordless angle grinder, which shows 3.1 and 5.2 configs.

Can’t wait for some more images and timelines to surface! [emoji41]

TKS80 is intriguing as it indicates a deviation from the pull-saw CS50/70 varieties. Tisch-Kreis-Säge simply means "table(circular)saw" and the others are listed as "pull-saws" in german. It might share add ons from the CS70 and if so could be a potentially great small workshop saw? 

Oh well, the impact is on the shortlist. Unless they screwed it up like the Ti15 it is a welcome addition for me.
A cordless Vecturo is nice but I got that tool covered by another brand or two already.

The main update the kapex needs is  a motor that does not  burn up.

I am very interested in the Kapex update. The Kapex while a great tool does need an update. I am guessing it will be small improvements, but if they can add a new standout feature like the clamp to this new model it will be worthwhile upgrade over its less pricey competitors.

Are there miter saws that use conventional light rather than laser for the cut indicators?  I find the laser lines look "fuzzy" and dazzling and wonder if conventional light would work out better assuming you could still see it.

Quote from: BoulderAv on October 26, 2018, 02:19 PM

I am very interested in the Kapex update. The Kapex while a great tool does need an update. I am guessing it will be small improvements, but if they can add a new standout feature like the clamp to this new model it will be worthwhile upgrade over its less pricey competitors.

Are there miter saws that use conventional light rather than laser for the cut indicators?  I find the laser lines look "fuzzy" and dazzling and wonder if conventional light would work out better assuming you could still see it.

My Dewalt uses a regular light and the shadow produced by the blade.

I don't think there's a better system than the DeWalt XPS light

Oh cool! Whew! Nothing I want/need. Nice not to have more to tempt me to drop more money!

Quote from: vkumar on October 26, 2018, 02:23 PM

The main update the kapex needs is  a motor that does not  burn up.

Amazed that it took until post #34 for that comment...   

I mentioned its smoking habit on post #3,  guess I was too subtle. 

I find it no different than other companies.  People from forums looking thru various global websites looking for hints.  Been thru the same for other interests.

I don't expect companies to give answers, as it's their business plan, and further things change and you don't want to have people freak out because something that was roadmapped 2 years ago never happened verses it happened when it happened.  Nor do I want things to become "routine updates" as that breeds updates for the sake of updates, not for good reason (iPhones)

I think it would somewhat help people to have an idea if stuff will be updates, it gets announced on these X dates/shows of the year, if nothing comes out, it won't till the next one.

Where Festool creates the problem is that unlike most other similar companies who sell the same product around the world, Festool doesn't offer everything around the world, places may or may not get a product, and worse sometimes they get a different version of a product.  So what matters to people can be very different depending on where you live.

I don't think they make many radical changes often, so minor changes won't really be upsetting to folks (changes happen and sometime it's for the good or bad and you never know which side of things you will fall). It's things that alter consistency/system  that matter.  I don't want to buy stuff that has mismatched hoses/measurement/cords/batteries etc or is simply incompatible with what comes out later.   For me, I have a plan to buy a great deal of Festool stuff. But that won't happen till they fix their issue with the removal of metric tools.  That's why I was curious to see what might be brought.  It's tools that go away that cause issues more than something new coming out after you buy something.  You don't want to miss your chance to get something or be forced to buy when you don't want too.

If I saw something that gave me a solid indication of the metric stuff returning, I'd probably be ordering stuff right now. Festool could put out some sort of  message like when they went the other way. But then they would have a lot of folks looking to buy stuff just stop and wait. Of course it also means those who decided to look at other brands to look back again. Thus is the problem in telling the public your plans. You are un-likely to get a single unified reaction from consumers, and you certainly don't want people to hold off buying.

Still, I think you can well assume Kapex sales in the US will slow down some.

I found the first german dealer who has the new KAPEX KS 120 REB listet. There is written "available January 2019".
https://www.contorion.de/elektrowerkzeug/festool-kapp-zugsaege-ks-120-reb-kapex-63277105?q=ks%20120%20reb

The only change compared to the previous model (KS 120 EB) in the technical description i found was the Weight change to 23.1 kg (KS 12 EB had 21.5 kg).

More interesting is the new price. The current model (KS 120 EB) costs 1193,58 € including sales tax. The new model (KS 120 REB) has a 74,5 % higher price with 2082,90 € including sales tax. According to this price increase there has to be more new features accept the heavier weight.

Unfortunately there is no picture available.

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Thats the first thing I noticed, looks a lot taller than my regular Midi.

I'd prefer a turning knob to the touch panel. With a knob you can see current setting when the vac if off.
Perhaps FT planed ahead to potentially control suction remotely.

Exactly. Membrane keypads like that are prone to failure and wearing through/out. Bad design choice IMO. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see how they hold up.

Quote from: Svar on November 02, 2018, 12:56 PM

I'd prefer a turning knob to the touch panel. With a knob you can see current setting when the vac if off.
Perhaps FT planed ahead to potentially control suction remotely.

Exactly. Membrane keypads like that are prone to failure and wearing through/out. Bad design choice IMO. But I guess we'll just have to wait and see how they hold up.

I agree with the dislike of membrane keypads and the benefit of tactile feedback from rotating knobs.

Nevertheless, one of my vacs had to make a trip through service as the seal around one knobs axis failed and water corroded the switch - in regard of being water proof the new design has benefits.

I'd prefer a turning knob to the touch panel. With a knob you can see current setting when the vac if off.
Perhaps FT planed ahead to potentially control suction remotely.

My guess is that due to that keypad, this might have some sort of IP water resistance rating.

If anything new was at Festool connect 2018 the attendees won't share any material on social media/internet until those products have launched.

I was at a Festool roadshow here in South Africa mid October and the rep mentioned to us that he has something exciting (guess that means new?) to share with us but we have to wait about 3 months. So I'm guessing Jan 2019 product launches.

I don't need a Festool impact, have a great Makita already but if they get it right it will be very tempting.

If anything new was at Festool connect 2018 the attendees won't share any material on social media/internet until those products have launched.

I was at a Festool roadshow here in South Africa mid October and the rep mentioned to us that he has something exciting (guess that means new?) to share with us but we have to wait about 3 months. So I'm guessing Jan 2019 product launches.

I don't need a Festool impact, have a great Makita already but if they get it right it will be very tempting.

I am covered with the Hitachi triple hammer but if Festool makes a really really nice one it would be hard to resist for me.

TSK 80 with 210 or 260 mm blade?

Given festools model names of the past any numbers either denote power requirements (as with the routers) or cutting capacity (as with the TS). So my guess would be the 80 is ment in mm - as the TS 75 uses a 210mm blade and (in rail or CMS use) has 70mm capacity 210 would be too small, the 260mm one (that gives 88mm in the kapex and given a little deeper mounting of the axis as of the retract mechanic) could end up at 80mm.

If they include SawStop technology, I would guess 260 so as to minimize changes to cartridge.

My guess is they will (it would be quite pointless to buy SawStop if they wouldn't use the technology) and I hope they'll use the same blades that go into the Kapex 88/120. That's at least what I would do as product manager: already existing consumeables both keep production/stocking costs down and do not turn off my customers by forcing to get yet another set of blades.

What will be the advantage of the Festool saw in Europe where I assume the Bosch is still selling their flesh detecting blade stopping saw?

Bosch dosn't seem to sell them in Germany (havn't checked rest of Europe).

TSK 80 with 210 or 260 mm blade?

If they include SawStop technology, I would guess 260 so as to minimize changes to cartridge.

Will they include a pull saw feature like Mafell or would that compete with Kapex too much?

What will be the advantage of the Festool saw in Europe where I assume the Bosch is still selling their flesh detecting blade stopping saw?

After underestimating the Woodpecker slab tool so much, I do not think I will try to guess the price of the TSK 80.

I think the name gives away that it is not a pull saw, but a "regular" table saw.

Since buying an ATF 55 in 2003 I’ve only used my very good table saw for ripping stuff less than a foot wide, and very small stuff.

I’ve long thought a portable table saw, as a companion to a plunge cut circular saw, should be in the form of something like a short plank, about 14” wide and 3 feet long, width a pair of wheels on the outboard end.

The new narrow mft add-on would be a good housing for such a portable table saw.

On eBay and Amazon a few Festool dealers are discounting the Kapex by 10% or more like they did with the previous tools each time a newer model came out so we should be hearing from Festool soon on the new Kapex.

On eBay and Amazon a few Festool dealers are discounting the Kapex by 10% or more like they did with the previous tools each time a newer model came out so we should be hearing from Festool soon on the new Kapex.

If dealers in the US are discounting the Kapex then I suspect that they are doing it at their own risk.  I never trust ebay and Amazon prices advertised until the shopping cart number comes up.

Peter

Here are the new Kapex KS 120 REB


https://www.festool.com.au/products/tools/sawing-oscillating/saws/sliding-compound-mitre-saws/ks-120/ks-120r-kapex-260mm-slide-compound-mitre-saw-set_5

Laser seem to be gone (new one has a led shadow line). No clue if that's an improvement, in case it's the same module as the one in the KS 60 (where it's invisible in sunlight) then IMHO it's a downgrade.

Looks like they might have changed something because there is 250mm diamond blade listed as an accessory now which is not on the other Festool sites around the world.
https://www.festool.com.au/products/accessories-and-consumables/sawing-oscillating/saw/blades/cutting-steel/250mm-pcd-diamond-saw-blade-16-tooth_f28291

From my understanding and info I've been told by retailers/reps etc. you can only use a 260mm blade on the current version of the Kapex.

Its kerf is 2.2mm vs 2.6mm, bore is the same @30mm but I don't see how 0.4mm is preventing us from using smaller blades currently?

Compatibility listing contains the KS 88 (which is a 120 without laser) for that blade, so I guess they only list the new 120 R as the old (EB) one is discontinued.

Snip.

Smoke will now be routed out thru the side fences to make it less distracting to the user 

I would think Festool will have gone to extra measures to make sure there are no issues this time.  If they have failures on the new one, it will be a serious hit to them.  The big question will be who will step up to buy one first.

Not via some enhancement to the dust collection port?

Does the video show the sander battery with built in Bluetooth 🤔

CTL Mini and Midi shown as „available from January“ on the German Festool website now.

I'm already testing in Blatná   

Different opinions Alex. I MUCH prefer the new design. Keeps the hose in and gives me a flat surface to put things on.

What is weird is that I found a wireless device authorization record for Kapex 120 REB on the Korean FCC site:

https://fccid.io/RR-FeS-KS120REB

This could indicate that the REB model might be battery powered with BT vacuum switching?

This could indicate that the REB model might be battery powered with BT vacuum switching?

Don't think so.
The battery powered machines like saws and others have the capital C in the name: HKC, TSC, PSC, RTSC, DTSC, ETSC, BHC, PDC, DRC, DWC and ISC. And the new 2019 models: DSC-AGC, AGC and OSC.
A battery powered Kapex should then be called KSC and that's not the case, but it's called KS 120 REB and KS 88 RE.

And the shadow line instead of the laser.

It's gotta have fricken laser beams!

What's the

Quote

LED Spotlight

LED light for easy and precise positioning on the scribe mark.

doing on the features listing of https://www.festool.com.au/products/tools/sawing-oscillating/saws/sliding-compound-mitre-saws/ks-120/ks-120r-kapex-260mm-slide-compound-mitre-saw-set_5 then?

The same page also says "Dual line laser beams clearly mark the exact width of the cut for positioning the work piece from the left or right."

Quote from: Gregor on November 28, 2018, 06:09 PM

What's the

Quote

LED Spotlight

LED light for easy and precise positioning on the scribe mark.

doing on the features listing of https://www.festool.com.au/products/tools/sawing-oscillating/saws/sliding-compound-mitre-saws/ks-120/ks-120r-kapex-260mm-slide-compound-mitre-saw-set_5 then?

The same page also says "Dual line laser beams clearly mark the exact width of the cut for positioning the work piece from the left or right."

Maybe someome should hint our friendly tool suppliers kiwi headquarter to remove the contradicting information from the technical data listing.

Hmmm, the two I was most interested in getting a peak at aren't there. . Grinder and Impact Driver.

What is new with the CS50?

new Festool Ctl Midi Video is out:

https://youtu.be/LIfqE6DCC-Q?t=50

Do I see it correctly that the plastic part that holds the actual filter is a throwaway part?

Does it look notably bigger to anyone else, compared to the current midi?

     Measurements from the websites .............  L x W x H

      Current Mini = 430mm x 330mm x 422mm

      New Mini     =  470mm x 320mm x 455mm

      Current Midi = 430mm x 330mm x 470mm

      New Midi      = 470mm x 320mm x 495mm


Seth

Any word on a cordless planer coming out?

I think that’d be a stretch with the current cordless technology. Maybe in a few years? We’ve come a long ways within the last 2-3 years so it will inevitably happen.

Who would have predicted 2 years ago that cordless table saws, mitre saws and chain saws would become viable woodworking options?

Makita, Hitachi, Milwaukee and Bosch all have cordless planers now.

Hey Shane, my statement had to do with Festool's battery platform. I own 2 Festool drills, an ETSC, a HKC & a TSC. I also own 2 Milwaukee Fuel RA grinders, a Fuel Sawzall, 2 Fuel drills, and the 1400 ft lb Fuel impact. 

The Milwaukee batteries just seem to last longer than the Festool variety. Tough to say for sure because the above tools are all different in nature.   

I'm just always impressed with the Milwaukee battery life when after using the tool for an hour straight, I press the button to reveal the amount of charge left and there's still 75% there.

Screen, Touch screens, etc don't belong on tools, cars etc.  Just make things more of a disposable item and harder to repair.  Maybe in a few years they will have a "higher end" (costlier) model where you pay more for the privilege to not have a screen.   My guess is they are going down the same route as car makers and others where the reality is doing things with a screen and some ICs out back is cheaper than physical knobs/encoder/wiring/etc,  so it's a cost savings but pitched as luxury, only after knobs and such are gone do people realize what they lost, want them back and now you have to pay more and getting the mechanical controls back is the luxury option.

(touch)screens/electronics on devices are appropriate so long as they prove to be the best way for the operator to accomplish a task while maintaining as good or better reliability and safety.

I don’t know what Festool is going to do with the screen on the dust collector, so I can’t offer an opinion on it. But ultimately, the screen and electronics turn on a motor. That’s it. that shouldn’t be too hard to bypass if it were a choice between that and throwing it away. Knowing Festool, I think they’ll do something interesting and useful with the new bits and bobs that will be a significant improvement over a simple mechanical switch.

The technology you disapprove of, provide real tangeable benefits on modern tools. The soft start and variable speeds are good examples of the benefits. Milwaukee has taken things to the next level with some of their drills where they detect the drill bit getting locked up and shut down the tool before the handle starts to twist around and break your wrist or slam your hand against a joist.

I’ve had opportunitis to use some older (antique?) drills that only had a one speed motor controlled by a snap action switch. More or less they’re what you’re advocating for. They’re fun to look at with the shiny all metal bodies, sparks and aroma of the motor, but they’re not great  to use (not to mention the often poor ergonomics)

From what I understand, the "touch screen" on the CTM Midi allows you to select the size of hose attached so that the airflow detection required for M Class works correctly. I also understand that there are RFID tags in the hoses so that this can be automatically selected for you based on the hose in use. If there was a manual switch for hose size, this would not work. So moving to an electronic function has an added benefit.

Also, it's not really a "touch screen" per se as you would associate with a tablet or phone etc. It's a panel operated by touch. I think the original German to English translations ended up being a little misleading.

The only improvement I would have liked to see is better motor/suction and a return to the non-locking hose ends and connectors.
At the very least that would have been progress in the ease of use and performance of the tools, rather than more cosmetic lipstick and gimmicks.
(the new filter change without opening the vac and manual cleaning are nice additions too I suppose…) but those hose connectors…
god, I hate them, i hate them with an unhealthy passion!

From what I understand, the "touch screen" on the CTM Midi allows you to select the size of hose attached so that the airflow detection required for M Class works correctly.

Looking at the picture I don't see a button to select the suction, only a selector for hose diameter.

Is that an improvement?

The large +/- buttons are for selecting suction, that's for sure.

Is that speculation from your part or hands-on experience?

.....hose diamter can be set or be done automatically. The hos seize os printed on the screen
Rg
Phil

Having seen how covered in paint, plaster, glue etc some people's CTs get... I hope this touch button screen can hold up to years of being scrubbed clean..

I think I see the membrane plastic starting to crack and split before it made it thru the photo shoot .

Modern production and inventory systems use RFID tags, so FS may just use a choice they already made to build upon for new features.

yes, they are everywhere, not that it's a great thing, but if it means you have to have the latest hoses for it to work it's a problem. What if you have old hoses, or hoses from a different manufacture, etc.  You don't want to end up like Kerig putting RFDI tags in coffee pods to lock out 3rd parties.  Or what if the tag isn't molded into the hose but is stuck on it someplace.  Then folks do the normal thing and remove them like you do anytime you have a tool apart, now suddenly it doesn't work.

Quote from: GarryMartin on December 10, 2018, 03:29 AM

From what I understand, the "touch screen" on the CTM Midi allows you to select the size of hose attached so that the airflow detection required for M Class works correctly.

Looking at the picture I don't see a button to select the suction, only a selector for hose diameter.

Is that an improvement?

Just wait for the North American version,   instead of 50, 36, 27, 21   we get  1-24/25  1-2/5 , 1-1/16 etc.     I'm still looking for a tape measure that will read out 7-2/3" so I can set the rear stop on my MFT/3 per Festool's manual.

I just don't get this design verses a knob.

Also when you press the "Man" button, does he show up right away, or how does this work, and can there be a Woman button? I know the big CTs say "man" too, but I don't think they were space constrained here.  More than one person is going to get busted on from their buddies for pressing "the man button".

At this moment it's speculation, but within 3-4 weeks I can confirm this because I ordered the new CTL Midi model.
Look at the picture below: all horizontal green bars are lid, so maximum suction and done with the +/- buttons.
What else are these buttons for?

Before starting, press the +/- buttons to adjust the hose diameter. Startup with +/- buttons sets the power.

Festool have just posted an image on Twitter and confirmed (I assume) that the TKS 80 will be "live" at the BAU Fair in January!

Translated from the tweet - "The first drawing of the #SawStop technology in a new #Festool machine. At the fair BAU from the 14th to the 19th. January you can experience it live."

TSK 80 is maybe modular. There will be a short base for table top mounting and a tall base for floor level. Perhaps a rigidity enhanced MFT option also.

Interesting that they decided to keep it totally quiet until a few weeks until unveiling.

Festool have just posted an image on Twitter and confirmed (I assume) that the TKS 80 will be "live" at the BAU Fair in January!

Translated from the tweet - "The first drawing of the #SawStop technology in a new #Festool machine. At the fair BAU from the 14th to the 19th. January you can experience it live."

(Attachment Link)

Also the text in the picture translates to:
“Sichtbare Sawstop Anzeige” - visible sawstop indicator
“Wandmontage ermöglicht“ - possible to be mounted to the wall.


Sorry for the rough translation. [emoji51][emoji56]

On the other hand, the arrow is pointing at a green strip (looks similar to plastic glide strips on guide rails) a considerable distance from the blade.

So, what does it all mean?

"Visible SawStop Indicator", whatever that may be…

Am I the only person who has "a-ha - take on me" get stuck in ones head looking at this image?

(Attachment Link)

Any news on the impact drill - ill be at Bau in January so will post a few pictures of the saw & hopefully impact drill !? 

Just posted by @bunnysbolts on Twitter... UK availability

It seems like I can order the feet for the SYM70 to my old existing one. It will bring it up to SYS 1 level. That is great, thanks Festool!
That seems to be the only difference between the new and the old though. In the physical catalogue the feet are listed as an accessory for the previous model.

On the other hand that Impact I've been pining for - for years - seems to be a somewhat elusive unicorn at the moment.

Looks like the KAPEX KS 120 REB photos and details are starting to appear...

Extra class down to the last detail.

Strengths and benefits:

• Double ball bearing double column guide for unique precision
• Double-line laser for exact marking of the saw cut
• Front-operated fine adjustment for millimeter accurate adjustment of the saw blade angle
• Integrated special cap position for cutting depths up to max. 120 mm
• FastFix saw blade change for material-appropriate working
• Precise cuts through double column guide
• Error-free angular transmission via angular tilt and double-line laser
• Compact, lightweight construction for easy transport
• Quick brake

Main applications:

• Fitting base and cover strips up to 120 mm height - without calculation
• Cutting boards and panels to 305 x 88 mm
• Fitting of cornice profiles up to 168 mm in "original wall position"
• Caps of square timbers and beams up to 88 mm thickness

Technical specifications:

• Power consumption: 1600 W
• Idling speed: 1400 - 3400 min⁻¹
• Saw blade Ø: 260 mm
• Cutting depth 90 ° / 90 °: 305 x 88 mm
• Cutting depth 45 ° / 90 °: 215 x 88 mm
• Special cutting depth 90 ° / 90 °: 60 x 120 mm
• Wreath profile Diagonal cut at 45 ° / 90 °: 168 mm
• Inclination angle: 47/47 °
• Miter angle: 50/60 °
• Dimensions (WxDxH): 713 x 500 x 470 mm
• Weight: 23.1 kg
• Connection of dust extraction Ø: 27/36 mm
• Special cutting depth 45 ° / 90 ° (left): 40 x 120 mm
• Special cutting depth 45 ° / 90 ° (right): 20 x 120 mm
• Cutting depth 50 ° / 90 ° (left): 196 x 88 mm
• Cutting depth 60 ° / 90 ° (right): 152 x 88 mm
• Cutting depth 45 ° / 45 ° (left): 215 x 55 mm
• Cutting depth 45 ° / 45 ° (right): 215 x 35 mm
• Wreath profile Diagonal cut at 90 ° / 90 °: 168 mm
• Working height: 900 mm

Just curious  . . . Do the specs show improvements over the previous model? Like motor? Any others? I don't know the specs from the previous generation and, given FOG feedback, there seems to be at least some question about durability of the motor. I know at least 2 people who have never had a problem that they didn't cause, but  . . . just wondering if Festool has made improvements that others believe are significant.

Don't know for sure, the limited electrical specs that they list are the same as for the original Kapex. It just appears to be cosmetic changes.

Just curious  . . . Do the specs show improvements over the previous model? Like motor? Any others?

The new models aren't on EKAT yet so difficult to tell whether any parts have been replaced/updated/are different. All will become clear within the next month I would think.

Seems they also moved the storage location for the miter gauge. I have hated the original location since day one of owning!

Hello,
new Kapex is now online.
https://www.festool.de/produkte/saegen/kapp-zugsaegen/575302---ks-120-reb
Happy new Year to all

Strangely these new Kapex saws are not mentioned under New Products?
Maybe because these are updated R-models?

The tail end of the Vecturo in the screenshot looks very similar to the tail end of a PSC 420 with its standard non-ergo battery inserted and seen from above, though - same protrusions left and right of the main body.

The tail end of the Vecturo in the screenshot looks very similar to the tail end of a PSC 420 with its standard non-ergo battery inserted and seen from above, though - same protrusions left and right of the main body.

Ano  Vecturo OSC 18 is a brother Fein SuperCut AFSC 18 QSL. It uses classic accumulators Festool 18V  3,1Ah-6,2Ah 

https://www.naradionline.cz/aku-oscilacni-bruska-fein-supercut-afsc-18-qsl-select.html

I wish they invested some time in fixing the crappy CS-CMS fence.

C18/T18 change the charger. Old version of SET - charger SCA 8. New version of SET - charger TCL6.
Saws are now equipped with a battery Bluetooth.

Here's a design sketch of the ON/OFF switch for the upcoming TKS 80 with SawStop technology.

Here's a design sketch of the ON/OFF switch for the upcoming TKS 80 with SawStop technology.

Where. .do you even find this?