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Offline amcore

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No plugit on vecturo?
« on: July 16, 2017, 05:25 AM »
Hello all!

I see that Festool are remove the plugit Cable from the vecturo multitool now in september, And replace it whit a ordinary cord! Why? I tougth that the plugit was one Of Festools System thinking?

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Offline Brice Burrell

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Re: No plugit on vecturo?
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2017, 08:37 AM »
The idea of the plug-it is to attach the power cord to the vac hose.  You then detach the power cord and vac hose to change tools.  The Vecturo has no dust collection, so no need for a plug-it cord.
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Offline RKA

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Re: No plugit on vecturo?
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2017, 09:41 AM »
I'm not sure I agree with that completely.  It's nice to have one power cord set up where you're working and just swap in the tools needed and if you're moving around, you don't have to manage 3-4 tools with the associated cables. Regardless, I haven't heard they are discontinuing the plug it cables from the vecturo, do you have a link to this source?
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Re: No plugit on vecturo?
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2017, 09:54 AM »

Offline SS Teach

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Re: No plugit on vecturo?
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2017, 11:34 AM »
Agree with RKA on this one. It's a small thing, but like many small things, they add up to become a big thing.
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Offline Dave Reinhold

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Re: No plugit on vecturo?
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2017, 11:39 AM »
I used to love the idea of plug it cords but lately I would rather just have standard plug ends on my tools. The plug it gets sloppy over time and the cord as well as the socket get burn marks. Once you get one tool that has it and you don't notice it and use the cord on others you risk getting burn marks on other sockets. I'd rather the inconvenience of unplugging the tool from the vacuum.

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Offline tjbnwi

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Re: No plugit on vecturo?
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2017, 11:46 AM »
My guess is the vibration is breaking the pin. Had it happen to mine.

Tom

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Re: No plugit on vecturo?
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2017, 11:53 AM »
I used to love the idea of plug it cords but lately I would rather just have standard plug ends on my tools.
For me it's the opposit: I hate fixed cords on tools, so should the vecturo (or whatever else) be gutted in that area it'll simply be removed from my shopping list and replaced by a 'reevaluate the competition for it' entry. I'm willing to pay premium for product quality and meaningful features, but see no point in a knockoff (or licensed copy) that just differs in color but dosn't provide tangible benefits - which the plug-it is, at least for me.

The reason why I passed on the syslite-duo: fixed cord (the missing switch was just icing on the cake).

Offline Cheese

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Re: No plugit on vecturo?
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2017, 12:09 PM »

My guess is the vibration is breaking the pin. Had it happen to mine.


So Tom, when they fixed your Vecturo, did they fix the Plug-It or did they hard wire it?

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Re: No plugit on vecturo?
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2017, 12:14 PM »
I used to love the idea of plug it cords but lately I would rather just have standard plug ends on my tools. The plug it gets sloppy over time and the cord as well as the socket get burn marks. Once you get one tool that has it and you don't notice it and use the cord on others you risk getting burn marks on other sockets. I'd rather the inconvenience of unplugging the tool from the vacuum.

Dave

I've had to replace numerous plug-it cords because they are wearing out.  I'm with Dave, not a lot of love the plug-it anymore.  I'd guess people that use the tools a lot might come to the same conclusion over time.
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Offline antss

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Re: No plugit on vecturo?
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2017, 12:25 PM »
Milwaukee dropped their quick connect power cord on drills and saws sometime earlier this decade too.  I remember when it came out contractors saying it wouldn't last and it was a weak link too.

I should think that FT could utilize a plug-it conversion 491145 so that the connection was outside the vecturo body.  That should eliminate most of the vibration put on the connection.    [unsure]

Offline ear3

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Re: No plugit on vecturo?
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2017, 03:04 PM »
Or....how about a cordless vecturo?  [wink]
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Offline demographic

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Re: No plugit on vecturo?
« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2017, 03:29 PM »
Or....how about a cordless vecturo?  [wink]

Yeah, I'm totally baffled that it isn't already.

Offline jimbo51

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Re: No plugit on vecturo?
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2017, 03:54 PM »
I will say again.

I think Festool has an agreement with Fein that bars Festool from selling a cordless Vecturo for some unknown (to us) number of years. Or perhaps Festool is waiting to see how the sale of cordless vs corded drills goes before making a decision.

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: No plugit on vecturo?
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2017, 04:57 PM »

My guess is the vibration is breaking the pin. Had it happen to mine.


So Tom, when they fixed your Vecturo, did they fix the Plug-It or did they hard wire it?

I needed the tool up and running, they sent me the socket and I changed it.

Tom

Offline tjbnwi

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Re: No plugit on vecturo?
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2017, 05:03 PM »
I used to love the idea of plug it cords but lately I would rather just have standard plug ends on my tools. The plug it gets sloppy over time and the cord as well as the socket get burn marks. Once you get one tool that has it and you don't notice it and use the cord on others you risk getting burn marks on other sockets. I'd rather the inconvenience of unplugging the tool from the vacuum.

Dave

I've had to replace numerous plug-it cords because they are wearing out.  I'm with Dave, not a lot of love the plug-it anymore.  I'd guess people that use the tools a lot might come to the same conclusion over time.

From the beginning for of my Festool life I have not used the Plug-It as intended. I use a multi outlet adapter with the tools I'm using plugged into it.

In all the years I've owned the TS's, I thing the corded has been disconnected from the saw(s) less than 10 times.

Tom

Offline Rip Van Winkle

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Re: No plugit on vecturo?
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2017, 05:05 PM »
Milwaukee dropped their quick connect power cord on drills and saws sometime earlier this decade too.  I remember when it came out contractors saying it wouldn't last and it was a weak link too.

I should think that FT could utilize a plug-it conversion 491145 so that the connection was outside the vecturo body.  That should eliminate most of the vibration put on the connection.    [unsure]

Mileaukee still manufactures various tool models with the Quik-Lok cord.

A number of the older tools after the Quik-Lok cord connector was designed, were designed so that the tools could be manufactured with or without the Quik-Lok cord and connector. Some older USA designed tools are also offered without the Quik-Lok connector, but these seem to be lower cost or lower demand tools that were originally offered in various configurations that that may or may not have had a Quik-Lok cord.

It should also be pointed out that unlike the Festool Plug-It cords, the Milwaukee Quik-Lok cord connector can be removed and replaced on the cord if the cord gets damaged near the connector.

Another advantage to the replaceable cords is you can easily vary the length of cord for various tasks if you need a longer or shorter cord, or you can wire a GFCI into the one cord in case you need to work with or near water or other conductive liquids.

The Milwaukee tools that are were never offered with the Quik-Lok cord are usually the ones that were designed and introduced after Milwaukee moved most production to China. 

Re: No plugit on vecturo?
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2017, 01:53 AM »
Hmm, I have some twenty-twentyfive odd tools fitted with plug it and have used them extensively for somewhat twelve to thirteen years now. I have had ONE plug it connector that has failed. And ONE power cable that has gone bad. Long before the Vecturo I fitted my Supercut with a plug it cable and it has seen plenty of hard working hours and zero problems. Replaced it a year ago with a new Supercut because the machine itself was a little tatty and coals had been replaced two times. Plug it was fine and transferred to the newer model. 

Comparing that to say, Mirka connectors on the sanders, the Mirka Deros has had three replacement cords because the connector socket has worn out to the point of failure. On a stationary machine always in the paint shop.

I bought a Milwaukee Sawzall sabre/demolition saw that I have used the heck out of. Replaced the Milwaukee quick lok with a plug it and have flattened two whole houses with it plus various other demolition tasks. A month ago the Sawzall did give up the ghost to the point of being to costly to repair. It virtually blew up internally. That's how hard I worked it. The Plug it _never failed_ even though the saw has been hoisted in the plug it, tossed around, buried in debris and knocked around like a punching bag. 

I am not saying that the plug it connectors are fail safe - they are not - but the convenience with seven powertools on site and maybe just two powercords (one spare - or one hooked to a vac) is simply too brilliant not to take advantage of. The worst thing that has happened is arriving on site with NO cord.  [big grin] Since that mind slip there is always a spare in the car...

I do hook up the Supercut to a vac occasionally - when cutting into plaster or otherwise indoors I often run the vac so I don't get plaster dust thrown around. It is easy lining up the nozzle while working the Supercut/Vecturo and it is effective. It is not an issue for those times I need to use a vac. I rather not have a vac attachment as I think it is more like a jigsaw - a hooked up vac doesn't help that much and working a free nozzle at the cutting point is more effective should it be needed. I don't use the Supercut as a sander so don't need that vac suction channel/attachment.

I would not want my Fein without a plug it. I would love to have a 18V Vecturo though.
Also - don't forget that the shape of the brand new batteries for the 18V sanders lend themselves well for a Vecturo 18V. Remember where you read it first. ;)

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Offline antss

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Re: No plugit on vecturo?
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2017, 05:00 PM »
Rip - thanks for the clarification.  I thought I'd read they'd axed it. 

At any rate, I haven't seen a tool with it for sale in ages either in print or at any of the dealers I frequent. I've only seen one sawzall with it on a jobsite this century too.  Can' be all that popular.