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Hi, Any thoughts on the new features? They look great to me. Of course no one has one yet but that won't keep us from talking about it  I especially like the quick change base idea. I think it inherently upgrades other features that are on the OF1400 besides just being quick change. The copy rings can be tight fitting but still quick change. The offset for the guide rail is much better than the foot (maybe Daviddubya gave them this idea  ) What do the rest of you like / dislike? Seth srs
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« Reply #1 on: March 2, 2008, 10:03 AM » |
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No question the features are good. I like that part. The thing I can't quite get adjusted to is the presumed price. The dollar is in the tank, I know, but still, eight hundred dollars for a router?
As far as the features, that drop down dust/chip shield thingy and the dust collection system seems to be very cool. The quick change bases and template rings are a thing of genius too.
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« Reply #2 on: March 2, 2008, 10:34 AM » |
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360 Degree Dust Shroud Tool-less Base System The Chip Deflector, Template Guides and other base accessories are attached using a magnetic, self-centering retainer and held in place UNDER the base plate. 30 Degree Handle Offset for Ergonomics Balance - Not Top Heavy Plunge Depth - 70mm + 10mm (allows collet to plunge BELOW the base for templates and an alternative position for bit changes) One Twist Plunge Lock Double Locking Plunge Columns Dust Collection Tube and Power Cord are positioned at the top, great in combination with the Boom Arm but it keeps them out of the way. 2mm Offset On Stop Turret for finish pass 1/10mm Micro-Adjustments on plunge depth, guide rail adapter and parallel edge edge Available Base Accessory Kit
There's a few quick ones that come to mind...
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« Reply #3 on: March 2, 2008, 10:54 AM » |
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360 Degree Dust Shroud Tool-less Base System The Chip Deflector, Template Guides and other base accessories are attached using a magnetic, self-centering retainer and held in place UNDER the base plate. 30 Degree Handle Offset for Ergonomics Balance - Not Top Heavy Plunge Depth - 70mm + 10mm (allows collet to plunge BELOW the base for templates and an alternative position for bit changes) One Twist Plunge Lock Double Locking Plunge Columns Dust Collection Tube and Power Cord are positioned at the top, great in combination with the Boom Arm but it keeps them out of the way. 2mm Offset On Stop Turret for finish pass 1/10mm Micro-Adjustments on plunge depth, guide rail adapter and parallel edge edge Available Base Accessory Kit
There's a few quick ones that come to mind...
The Go-Cart Kit Systainer Retro Kit??? Is there a price and ETA on that item yet Shane? I want the one that looks like a BMW  Timmy
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« Reply #4 on: March 2, 2008, 11:09 AM » |
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The Go-Cart Kit Systainer Retro Kit??? Is there a price and ETA on that item yet Shane? I want the one that looks like a BMW  Timmy I personally think the new handle configuration lends itself to an OF 2200 beer stein 
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« Reply #5 on: March 2, 2008, 11:15 AM » |
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The Go-Cart Kit Systainer Retro Kit??? Is there a price and ETA on that item yet Shane? I want the one that looks like a BMW  Timmy I personally think the new handle configuration lends itself to an OF 2200 beer stein  How can we get our hands on some lederhosen with the Festool Colors? If we do that, I will fill my stein with "Diet Something" and Just tell me when!
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« Reply #6 on: March 2, 2008, 11:48 AM » |
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I have just entered pricing for the OF 2200 Accessories. I am still looking for some pics, but at least there is pricing on the page so you can weigh the value of purchasing in the kit or individually the templates you may need. OF 2200 Accessories PricesT
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« Reply #7 on: March 2, 2008, 12:19 PM » |
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Hey Timmy,
Any idea of why there is a $90.00 premium for the metric version of the accessory kit???
Matt
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« Reply #8 on: March 2, 2008, 12:33 PM » |
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I am curious as to that one as well. There is an extra guide with the mm set but I can't fig'r out the other $72.00. Perhaps Shane can shed some light? Otherwise, I am all over it.
Timmy
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« Reply #9 on: March 2, 2008, 12:41 PM » |
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I'm not Timmy, but I see that the imperial set includes four template guides, 1/2", 3/4", 1" and 1-3/8" while the metric set has five metric guides a 17, 24, 27, 30, and 40mm. It seems like there ought to be more of a difference for the money.
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« Reply #10 on: March 2, 2008, 12:45 PM » |
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I'm not Timmy, but I see that the imperial set includes four template guides, 1/2", 3/4", 1" and 1-3/8" while the metric set has five metric guides a 17, 24, 27, 30, and 40mm. It seems like there ought to be more of a difference for the money.
I concur Doctor T
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« Reply #11 on: March 2, 2008, 12:54 PM » |
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Hi, I was kinda hoping starting this thread would lead to discussion of the tool itself rather than the price which is already being covered in about three other threads.  What does the green lever on the bottom of the depth rod do? Is that the 2mm offset? How does it work? Seth
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« Reply #12 on: March 2, 2008, 01:50 PM » |
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Hi, I was kinda hoping starting this thread would lead to discussion of the tool itself rather than the price which is already being covered in about three other threads.  What does the green lever on the bottom of the depth rod do? Is that the 2mm offset? How does it work? Seth From a dealer standpoint it is going to be fun learning about these tools first hand. I currently have perhaps just a tad bit more info than (as they say in the south sometimes,) y'all. I will do my best to expedite any information that comes forth!!! I am hoping to get more pictures, and perhaps get my hands on some manuals that I can post. There is a ton of what I call "anticipatory anxiety" regarding these tools. They all look super to me! In answer to the green lever, I think you are right Seth. It looks like it has an offset stop on the rod. Festool has put so much thought into the ergonomics of this router, my guess is why not actuate the feature with a small movement of the thumb. Run the initial pass, move the lever and pass it again without resetting the depth/and having to turn off the router to do it....it just makes sense to me.
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« Reply #13 on: March 2, 2008, 03:41 PM » |
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Hi, I was kinda hoping starting this thread would lead to discussion of the tool itself rather than the price which is already being covered in about three other threads.  What does the green lever on the bottom of the depth rod do? Is that the 2mm offset? How does it work? Seth Seth, your assumption is correct. It's for the 2mm offset feature. The lever rotates the rod into a position where it bypasses the stop turret and can drop down to the 2mm offset position. There is a notch in the depth stop. You can see it in action (briefly) on the micro site about 30 seconds into the video. Regarding the question on the pricing of the Metric Base Acc. Kit, I do not set pricing so I can only speculate. We are expecting more people to purchase the Imperial so supply and demand may be a factor plus as someone said the additional template guide in the metric version. Shane
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« Reply #14 on: March 2, 2008, 04:20 PM » |
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i actually had a chance to see this router a couple of months ago. i was very impressed, though i did not get a chance to keep it for too long.yes i will be buying this when it is released.....though i would like to know about introductory offers.
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« Reply #15 on: March 2, 2008, 05:30 PM » |
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...though i would like to know about introductory offers.
WYSIWYG unless it's coupled to a new CT, I believe then it would be 10% less.
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« Reply #16 on: March 2, 2008, 10:07 PM » |
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Hi,
Anyone else notice the new type of systainer insert on the accessory set? Looks like closed cell styrofoam.
Seth
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« Reply #17 on: March 2, 2008, 10:18 PM » |
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As regards the postings about introductory pricing, I believe Bob Marino, a "dealer", posted that there would be none of that on the new tools.
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« Reply #18 on: March 2, 2008, 10:52 PM » |
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the foam is now used in ts 75 saw case. at least in mine.....that sucks if there is no introductory offer....that takes the sting out of forking over a couple of grand....kind of.......................sort of. boy, price increase and no introductory offers...............i guess once the dealer has hooked his addicts; there is no reason to worry. 
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the foam is now used in ts 75 saw case. at least in mine.....that sucks if there is no introductory offer....that takes the sting out of forking over a couple of grand....kind of.......................sort of. boy, price increase and no introductory offers...............i guess once the dealer has hooked his addicts; there is no reason to worry.  Unfortunately, dealers don't make the rules. We have very stringent guidelines to follow. If it were up to me, I would like to offer promotional pricing. Although I certainly can't speak for the other dealers on this board, I would imagine they too would like to offer promotional pricing. Timmy C
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« Reply #20 on: March 3, 2008, 12:15 AM » |
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the foam is now used in ts 75 saw case. at least in mine.....that sucks if there is no introductory offer....that takes the sting out of forking over a couple of grand....kind of.......................sort of. boy, price increase and no introductory offers...............i guess once the dealer has hooked his addicts; there is no reason to worry.  Hi, Do you have other Festools with the plastic inserts? If so how does the foam compare? Does it seem like it will hold up? Seth
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actually i inject foam into the backs of the plastic inserts making them strong and durable. without the the are a little too flexible. after a flatten the foam i paint the bottom with latex paint to resist the foam dust from getting around. the new materials seems good so far. i am not blaming the dealers for the prices ,,,in know how the pricing works.
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« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2009, 12:43 AM » |
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Is the 2200 really 20 amps? How many have a 20amp outlet? I doubt you can use it to autostart the vac? Am I missing something?
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« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2009, 05:59 AM » |
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Power=Voltage x Current
so on 110v, this (20A) is about 2000 watts, on 220/240volts, its about half, e.g. 10A, fine of a 13A UK socket
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The OF 2200 is rated for 2200 watts. Assuming you have 110V at the outlet, (sometimes a big assumption), it draws 20 Amps at full load. I don't think you'll ever see full load.
This router has soft start so you won't get a starting spike.
You can use it with the CT 22 or CT 33.
I have 20-amp outlets in my garage/shop but I ran a dedicated circuit and put in 20-amp outlets so I could have plenty of power.
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« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2009, 08:50 AM » |
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While the Festool website claims 18 amps, the tool is stamped 15 amps and is documented the same in the owners manual. At least mine is! Pete
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« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2009, 09:18 AM » |
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While the Festool website claims 18 amps, the tool is stamped 15 amps and is documented the same in the owners manual. At least mine is! Pete
I don't recall the 2200 I checked out being stamped with an amp rating, it had the normal watts rating.
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Received mine about 2 weeks ago and it is labeled on the tool at 15 amps. Was the first thing I looked for as was wanting to know the load to use with the CT vacs. Have not tried to verify with a meter. Pete
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« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2009, 10:50 AM » |
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Received mine about 2 weeks ago and it is labeled on the tool at 15 amps. Was the first thing I looked for as was wanting to know the load to use with the CT vacs. Have not tried to verify with a meter. Pete
I wonder if all Festool's tools will be rated in amps now, I hope so. I think it was Nick that was real critical about the wattage rating, it this case he's right, off by five amps.
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« Reply #29 on: May 9, 2009, 06:59 PM » |
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Amps and a voltage or voltage range? Just amps doesn't make much sense to me.
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