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Offline joncrn

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Precisio CS 50 in America
« on: April 14, 2018, 03:22 PM »
Hi everyone,

I am trying to find a way to get a Precisio CS 50 in America.  I know it’s not available here, but I am wondering if anyone knows of any dealers in Europe or elsewhere that would be willing to sell me one and ship it.

Please help!  I am desperate to get this saw!

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Online Tom Gensmer

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Re: Precisio CS 50 in America
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2018, 05:32 PM »
You'll likely want to get a 120V tool, and forget about any sort of warranty support.

It may be worth looking at the Mafell ERIKA 70. I have one and love it. It is vastly more powerful than the CS50 and has full warranty support in North America if you purchase domestically.

http://produkte.mafell.de/en/pull-push-saw-erika-70-ec-the-original?c=512970
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Re: Precisio CS 50 in America
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2018, 07:34 PM »
I also would look at the Mafell. It seem like a pretty nice saw. However much like Festool it can get pricey

https://www.timberwolftools.com/fine-woodworking/pull-push-saws
« Last Edit: April 14, 2018, 09:13 PM by jobsworth »
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Offline lwoirhaye

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Re: Precisio CS 50 in America
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2018, 10:42 PM »
This dealer in Italy ships worldwide. 
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PARAGE-SAW-PRECISIO-CS-70-EB-FESTOOL-FESTO-TAILLE-CUT-TRACTION-561136/253543230211?epid=1447861781&hash=item3b085aab03:g:HWAAAOSwzgRWvgQM

I have one made by Elektra-Beckum (later Metabo).   It was a lucky find as the guy I got it from had been friends with a fellow who had brought some tools over to try selling them in the states but it didn't go anywhere.   In hunting online for accessories I found they pop up used all over Europe on ebay and similar sites.   Only machine dealers are likely to be motivated to ship them.

Offline yetihunter

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Re: Precisio CS 50 in America
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2018, 12:00 AM »
Festool already announced plans to introduce the saw to North America...12 years ago.   Last I heard, UL was being stingy about the lack of anti-kickback pawls.
On one hand, the Europeans have been decades ahead of my country in power tool safety, and it's laughable that UL had/has any room to criticize a much better safety mechanism.  On the other hand, seeing the junk that gets a pass, I don't see how a manufacturer couldn't retrofit the horrible US style splitter+anti-kickback system with relative ease.   In the end, the market for it probably didn't justify the cost to localize.   

Why did I just go through that rant?   To sell the point that since you're already buying a tool that is unlisted, you may as well save yourself a lot of trouble and buy an Erika. 


Offline ScotF

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Re: Precisio CS 50 in America
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2018, 12:19 AM »
I would also look at the Erika and the dealer in North America for this style saw. While I do not have one, the Mafell tools I do have are  top notch and worth the price of admission. These are not inexpensive tools, but for me, they do provide enormous value.

Offline yetihunter

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Re: Precisio CS 50 in America
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2018, 02:17 AM »
My daughter informed me that she is no longer my little baby anymore and I replied, "I know, the KSS 40 18M BL took over that role.". 

Re: Precisio CS 50 in America
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2018, 07:02 AM »
Yeti: is your daughter named Erika by chance?  [big grin]

I have limited use with Erika saws and mostly the old 60.

I currently own the CS50 which I keep indefinitely despite highly irregular use. It is very versatile for smaller trim and for that reason alone I keep it. I did at one time have both the CS50 and the CS70, both fully tricked out. For sheet goods and stock bordering on the full depth of the CS50's capacity the CS70 is vastly superior. Penalty is weight.

Since I now use a large format saw the need for the CS70 - even on site - vanished. The CS50 is pristine and used occasionally. If I were in the market for a small shop saw that _would be portable enough for on site work_ I would take a long hard look at the Mafell Erika 70 but probably go for the 85 but I would not hesitate to highly recommend the Festool CS70.  [tongue]
« Last Edit: April 15, 2018, 07:07 AM by Henrik R / Pingvinlakrits »
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Offline rizzoa13

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Re: Precisio CS 50 in America
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2018, 11:28 AM »
I have an Erika 85. It’s a little heavy but packs up neatly against a wall and can be rolled around very easily. The power, depth of cut and size of the table are all big positives over the smaller sized saws.

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Re: Precisio CS 50 in America
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2018, 11:31 AM »
@rizzoa13

What is the quality of cut like?
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Offline yetihunter

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Re: Precisio CS 50 in America
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2018, 09:04 PM »
Yeti: is your daughter named Erika by chance?  [big grin]

I have limited use with Erika saws and mostly the old 60.

I currently own the CS50 which I keep indefinitely despite highly irregular use. It is very versatile for smaller trim and for that reason alone I keep it. I did at one time have both the CS50 and the CS70, both fully tricked out. For sheet goods and stock bordering on the full depth of the CS50's capacity the CS70 is vastly superior. Penalty is weight.

Since I now use a large format saw the need for the CS70 - even on site - vanished. The CS50 is pristine and used occasionally. If I were in the market for a small shop saw that _would be portable enough for on site work_ I would take a long hard look at the Mafell Erika 70 but probably go for the 85 but I would not hesitate to highly recommend the Festool CS70.  [tongue]

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Offline rizzoa13

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Re: Precisio CS 50 in America
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2018, 07:09 AM »
@rizzoa13

What is the quality of cut like?

I’d put it at the quality of a really good quality cabinet saw. I don’t get any chatter out of the arbor and when I put the incra fence on it feels like I’m in the shop.

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Re: Precisio CS 50 in America
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2018, 05:22 PM »
Wow that sounds pretty darned good
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Offline rizzoa13

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Re: Precisio CS 50 in America
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2018, 07:58 PM »
Downside is the whole arm and a leg deal 🤣

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Re: Precisio CS 50 in America
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2018, 09:44 PM »
Hmmm I imagine if I were sell my TS 75 , CMS module with the CS 50 fence and side extension, That would help defray some of the cost.

Now I got some thinking to do.
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