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Offline threesixright

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SDS plus Auger on a BHC-18 ?
« on: July 12, 2019, 02:38 AM »
Gooooodmorning FOG'ers,

Came a across auger bits with SDS Plus shank .

Was curious if that would work well with a BHC-18?

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Offline grobkuschelig

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Re: SDS plus Auger on a BHC-18 ?
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2019, 02:55 AM »
The BHC 18 is equipped with an SDS Plus System.

Did you mean SDS Max? That’s a bigger shank...

Offline six-point socket II

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Re: SDS plus Auger on a BHC-18 ?
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2019, 03:55 AM »
Hi!

https://keil.eu/en/products/wood-drill-bits/wood-drill-bits/sds-plus-auger-bit-lewis-shape/

or

https://www.fine-tools.com/schlangenbohrer-sdsplus.html


Will work depending on diameter needed and type of wood. 1100 RPM max. of the BHC is pretty fast for auger bits ... When I use auger bits with my PDC I'm mostly going in 1st or 2nd gear (400 max. / 800 max.).

Uses I see: Installing a canopy with wooden structure. You need a through hole in one of the beams to pull a cable through. (For example, it was the case with my canopy). Simple switch drill bits on the BHC, that you needed to bring anyway for the job.

Wouldn't consider it as an everyday use option. It's more of a "problem solver".

Here are some examples of truly great auger bits:

https://www.fine-tools.com/bohr3.html

https://www.fine-tools.com/fisch-schlangenbohrer.html

https://www.fine-tools.com/hartholz-schlangenbohrer.html

Kind regards,
Oliver
« Last Edit: July 12, 2019, 04:23 AM by six-point socket II »
Kind regards,
Oliver

Offline threesixright

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Re: SDS plus Auger on a BHC-18 ?
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2019, 02:02 AM »
The BHC 18 is equipped with an SDS Plus System.

Did you mean SDS Max? That’s a bigger shank...

No no, I did mean the SDS Plus shank 😀

Offline threesixright

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Re: SDS plus Auger on a BHC-18 ?
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2019, 02:36 AM »
Hi!

https://keil.eu/en/products/wood-drill-bits/wood-drill-bits/sds-plus-auger-bit-lewis-shape/

or

https://www.fine-tools.com/schlangenbohrer-sdsplus.html


Will work depending on diameter needed and type of wood. 1100 RPM max. of the BHC is pretty fast for auger bits ... When I use auger bits with my PDC I'm mostly going in 1st or 2nd gear (400 max. / 800 max.).

Uses I see: Installing a canopy with wooden structure. You need a through hole in one of the beams to pull a cable through. (For example, it was the case with my canopy). Simple switch drill bits on the BHC, that you needed to bring anyway for the job.

Wouldn't consider it as an everyday use option. It's more of a "problem solver".

Here are some examples of truly great auger bits:

https://www.fine-tools.com/bohr3.html

https://www.fine-tools.com/fisch-schlangenbohrer.html

https://www.fine-tools.com/hartholz-schlangenbohrer.html

Kind regards,
Oliver

ROFL! I got to this question because I was on the same site as you (fine-tools.com) and looking at their auger bits  [tongue]

I already have a ZOBO set, but could imagine the case where the auger bit would be a bit better.

Was actually just curious which shank to choose. I have a BHC and a C18...(PDC is on the whishlist [embarassed])

Speed (RPM) is a very good point (!), didn't consider that [blink]. Guess the HEX shank is a better option. Thanks!

We are doing a major reconstruction (85% strip, lifting the roof, adding an extra floor).

Container #9 (8m3) just filled and still counting [tongue]

Its pretty remote, and your always short of (the right) tools (sounds familiair?). You can't just ad-hoc pick one up (unless you want to drive an hour to a store and than still not everything is in stock). Before you know it, a week is gone by if not 2 >:(

I actually just browsing online, looking at the endless list of jobs to do and how to "attack" them.

Offline six-point socket II

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Re: SDS plus Auger on a BHC-18 ?
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2019, 05:13 AM »
Hi!

https://keil.eu/en/products/wood-drill-bits/wood-drill-bits/sds-plus-auger-bit-lewis-shape/

or

https://www.fine-tools.com/schlangenbohrer-sdsplus.html


Will work depending on diameter needed and type of wood. 1100 RPM max. of the BHC is pretty fast for auger bits ... When I use auger bits with my PDC I'm mostly going in 1st or 2nd gear (400 max. / 800 max.).

Uses I see: Installing a canopy with wooden structure. You need a through hole in one of the beams to pull a cable through. (For example, it was the case with my canopy). Simple switch drill bits on the BHC, that you needed to bring anyway for the job.

Wouldn't consider it as an everyday use option. It's more of a "problem solver".

Here are some examples of truly great auger bits:

https://www.fine-tools.com/bohr3.html

https://www.fine-tools.com/fisch-schlangenbohrer.html

https://www.fine-tools.com/hartholz-schlangenbohrer.html

Kind regards,
Oliver

ROFL! I got to this question because I was on the same site as you (fine-tools.com) and looking at their auger bits  [tongue]

I already have a ZOBO set, but could imagine the case where the auger bit would be a bit better.

Was actually just curious which shank to choose. I have a BHC and a C18...(PDC is on the whishlist [embarassed])

Speed (RPM) is a very good point (!), didn't consider that [blink]. Guess the HEX shank is a better option. Thanks!

We are doing a major reconstruction (85% strip, lifting the roof, adding an extra floor).

Container #9 (8m3) just filled and still counting [tongue]

Its pretty remote, and your always short of (the right) tools (sounds familiair?). You can't just ad-hoc pick one up (unless you want to drive an hour to a store and than still not everything is in stock). Before you know it, a week is gone by if not 2 >:(

I actually just browsing online, looking at the endless list of jobs to do and how to "attack" them.


Only so many sources for quality tools and consumables ... ;)

The Zobo's are great, I guess, like me, you have the FT CE ones? If you look at fine tools, look at System 2 and 3 and all the accessories ... Sadly of no use with the Centrotec Zobos.

But I really wouldn't compare them to auger bits. Different animals. Although, there's actually even a self feed point for the Zobos in addition to the extensions ... ;) And the more I look at the stuff, I feel this crave (ing?) ... ;)

Now that's a job (site), and a place with a view! Awesome!

I'm still chasing my dream of a blockhouse in a rural and highly remote place. It's my dream to get away from "it all" at someday.

Kind regards,
Oliver

Kind regards,
Oliver

Offline threesixright

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Re: SDS plus Auger on a BHC-18 ?
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2019, 06:27 AM »
Hi!

https://keil.eu/en/products/wood-drill-bits/wood-drill-bits/sds-plus-auger-bit-lewis-shape/

or

https://www.fine-tools.com/schlangenbohrer-sdsplus.html


Will work depending on diameter needed and type of wood. 1100 RPM max. of the BHC is pretty fast for auger bits ... When I use auger bits with my PDC I'm mostly going in 1st or 2nd gear (400 max. / 800 max.).

Uses I see: Installing a canopy with wooden structure. You need a through hole in one of the beams to pull a cable through. (For example, it was the case with my canopy). Simple switch drill bits on the BHC, that you needed to bring anyway for the job.

Wouldn't consider it as an everyday use option. It's more of a "problem solver".

Here are some examples of truly great auger bits:

https://www.fine-tools.com/bohr3.html

https://www.fine-tools.com/fisch-schlangenbohrer.html

https://www.fine-tools.com/hartholz-schlangenbohrer.html

Kind regards,
Oliver

ROFL! I got to this question because I was on the same site as you (fine-tools.com) and looking at their auger bits  [tongue]

I already have a ZOBO set, but could imagine the case where the auger bit would be a bit better.

Was actually just curious which shank to choose. I have a BHC and a C18...(PDC is on the whishlist [embarassed])

Speed (RPM) is a very good point (!), didn't consider that [blink]. Guess the HEX shank is a better option. Thanks!

We are doing a major reconstruction (85% strip, lifting the roof, adding an extra floor).

Container #9 (8m3) just filled and still counting [tongue]

Its pretty remote, and your always short of (the right) tools (sounds familiair?). You can't just ad-hoc pick one up (unless you want to drive an hour to a store and than still not everything is in stock). Before you know it, a week is gone by if not 2 >:(

I actually just browsing online, looking at the endless list of jobs to do and how to "attack" them.


Only so many sources for quality tools and consumables ... ;)

The Zobo's are great, I guess, like me, you have the FT CE ones? If you look at fine tools, look at System 2 and 3 and all the accessories ... Sadly of no use with the Centrotec Zobos.

But I really wouldn't compare them to auger bits. Different animals. Although, there's actually even a self feed point for the Zobos in addition to the extensions ... ;) And the more I look at the stuff, I feel this crave (ing?) ... ;)

Now that's a job (site), and a place with a view! Awesome!

I'm still chasing my dream of a blockhouse in a rural and highly remote place. It's my dream to get away from "it all" at someday.

Kind regards,
Oliver

I hear you, luckily lots of quality tools come from Germany and since they are our neighbours  [big grin]

Got the FT CE as you  [laughing]

// regarding the country side

Living in the center for over 5 years we are fed-up with the noise, parking problems, (drunk) tourist (no offence for those want to visit Prague, awesome city!).

For ~ 3 years we where looking and considering if moving to the country-side would be a good plan. Finally after seeing many houses we found this. It checked almost all our boxes (full south, city water, electricity, end-of-a-road (more of a sand-path tbh) and somewhat on a hill, space, etc.) and that within reasonable distance of the city.

Moving away is a gamble, you never know if you will like it, until you try it. But as you said, for long time we also felt to get away from it all. A future of chopping wood, peace, quietness, cooking outside, etc. awaits us, can't wait 8)

This undertaking has become a major adventure. In a not so dense populated area you need to find the right people (not any many choose from!): containers, craftsman, material, up-the-hill logistics issues, etc. It's all a bit more of a challenge to get it done (some don't even feel to drive up there). The other day they came with all the bricks, truck to big to unload at the house. So we needed to find someone that can move up the hill 20+ pallets since the big truck could not get up there. Took him 3 hours [blink]. But with blood, sweat and tears, you make it your own. At the end it's the journey, not the destination that counts. Cliché, but very true IMO.

Oh, almost forgot, also great reason to buy some quality tools and a 4x4  8)

I'd say: If its your dream, go for it! To me, best choice ever. If you ever in the neighbourhood, coffee/pivo is ready [laughing]

Have a great weekend and thanks for the input!

Rog.

Offline Euclid

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Re: SDS plus Auger on a BHC-18 ?
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2019, 08:12 AM »
Living in the center for over 5 years we are fed-up with the noise, parking problems, (drunk) tourist (no offence for those want to visit Prague, awesome city!).

Somewhat off topic, but…

Rog. - were you based in Prague previously?

I feel very fortunate to have spent some time in Prague in the mid-1970s — a really beautiful city, every street corner seem to offer a glimpse of something else you wanted to explore. And that skyline of towers, spires and attractive rooflines…  It was very quiet then (at least compared to London), but rather more ‘cosmopolitan’ in feel than Moscow and Leningrad (as it was then) which had visited before that. I took photographs on the Charles Bridge - almost deserted, which I’m told is unthinkable now.

Offline six-point socket II

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Re: SDS plus Auger on a BHC-18 ?
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2019, 08:41 AM »
Hi!

https://keil.eu/en/products/wood-drill-bits/wood-drill-bits/sds-plus-auger-bit-lewis-shape/

or

https://www.fine-tools.com/schlangenbohrer-sdsplus.html


Will work depending on diameter needed and type of wood. 1100 RPM max. of the BHC is pretty fast for auger bits ... When I use auger bits with my PDC I'm mostly going in 1st or 2nd gear (400 max. / 800 max.).

Uses I see: Installing a canopy with wooden structure. You need a through hole in one of the beams to pull a cable through. (For example, it was the case with my canopy). Simple switch drill bits on the BHC, that you needed to bring anyway for the job.

Wouldn't consider it as an everyday use option. It's more of a "problem solver".

Here are some examples of truly great auger bits:

https://www.fine-tools.com/bohr3.html

https://www.fine-tools.com/fisch-schlangenbohrer.html

https://www.fine-tools.com/hartholz-schlangenbohrer.html

Kind regards,
Oliver

ROFL! I got to this question because I was on the same site as you (fine-tools.com) and looking at their auger bits  [tongue]

I already have a ZOBO set, but could imagine the case where the auger bit would be a bit better.

Was actually just curious which shank to choose. I have a BHC and a C18...(PDC is on the whishlist [embarassed])

Speed (RPM) is a very good point (!), didn't consider that [blink]. Guess the HEX shank is a better option. Thanks!

We are doing a major reconstruction (85% strip, lifting the roof, adding an extra floor).

Container #9 (8m3) just filled and still counting [tongue]

Its pretty remote, and your always short of (the right) tools (sounds familiair?). You can't just ad-hoc pick one up (unless you want to drive an hour to a store and than still not everything is in stock). Before you know it, a week is gone by if not 2 >:(

I actually just browsing online, looking at the endless list of jobs to do and how to "attack" them.


Only so many sources for quality tools and consumables ... ;)

The Zobo's are great, I guess, like me, you have the FT CE ones? If you look at fine tools, look at System 2 and 3 and all the accessories ... Sadly of no use with the Centrotec Zobos.

But I really wouldn't compare them to auger bits. Different animals. Although, there's actually even a self feed point for the Zobos in addition to the extensions ... ;) And the more I look at the stuff, I feel this crave (ing?) ... ;)

Now that's a job (site), and a place with a view! Awesome!

I'm still chasing my dream of a blockhouse in a rural and highly remote place. It's my dream to get away from "it all" at someday.

Kind regards,
Oliver

I hear you, luckily lots of quality tools come from Germany and since they are our neighbours  [big grin]

Got the FT CE as you  [laughing]

// regarding the country side

Living in the center for over 5 years we are fed-up with the noise, parking problems, (drunk) tourist (no offence for those want to visit Prague, awesome city!).

For ~ 3 years we where looking and considering if moving to the country-side would be a good plan. Finally after seeing many houses we found this. It checked almost all our boxes (full south, city water, electricity, end-of-a-road (more of a sand-path tbh) and somewhat on a hill, space, etc.) and that within reasonable distance of the city.

Moving away is a gamble, you never know if you will like it, until you try it. But as you said, for long time we also felt to get away from it all. A future of chopping wood, peace, quietness, cooking outside, etc. awaits us, can't wait 8)

This undertaking has become a major adventure. In a not so dense populated area you need to find the right people (not any many choose from!): containers, craftsman, material, up-the-hill logistics issues, etc. It's all a bit more of a challenge to get it done (some don't even feel to drive up there). The other day they came with all the bricks, truck to big to unload at the house. So we needed to find someone that can move up the hill 20+ pallets since the big truck could not get up there. Took him 3 hours [blink]. But with blood, sweat and tears, you make it your own. At the end it's the journey, not the destination that counts. Cliché, but very true IMO.

Oh, almost forgot, also great reason to buy some quality tools and a 4x4  8)

I'd say: If its your dream, go for it! To me, best choice ever. If you ever in the neighbourhood, coffee/pivo is ready [laughing]

Have a great weekend and thanks for the input!

Rog.

Sounds like a great spot! The adventure, the journey - yes they weigh heavier than the destination. Yet, I can say the feeling of having "arrived" is unmatched. Life gets a lot easier.

I'm lucky that, though we're living house to house with our neighbors, we have a lot of privacy by growing the right trees/plants and it's a great home overall. But there are many days that, though we have arrived to a large extent, I simply feel sick and tired of the city its surroundings and everything that comes with it.

Maybe, one day. ... :)

Good luck with your project and have fun! :)

Kind regards,
Oliver
« Last Edit: July 13, 2019, 10:06 AM by six-point socket II »
Kind regards,
Oliver

Offline threesixright

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Re: SDS plus Auger on a BHC-18 ?
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2019, 09:57 AM »
@Euclid

Thats a long time ago. I first set foot here ~ 15 years ago, long after the wall came down. But my GF is CZ so plenty off stories of the old days.  In retro-perspective I wish I would have seen it in those old days.

As a matter of fact, still do. I'm not CZ (Dutch actually). We hope to move by the end of the year.
Prague is a lovely city. But the combo of airbandb and the cheap liquor.... :-X People coming in the building at 4:00, loud screaming, can't find the light button, pressing the bell or so drunk they try our lock/door and when I sent them away, 5 minutes later they try again [eek]. Nothing against getting drunk, but this is for those that live and work her utterly annoying.

I like the Spring and Autumn, getting up in the spring at 5AM to make sun rise photographs and then slowly cross the Charles bridge, a few souls here and there (one of the rare moments), people cleaning the street. Still amazing. But come back at 10 and its only people. The center is nice and small and the food is (nowadays) good and affordable, and so is the beer [tongue]

@six-point socket II
Thanks, will do! At this point its mainly demolition. The contrator will do the rough build, but the finishing I plan to do myself (hence all the questions [big grin]). So staircase, wardrobes, kitchen, bathroom, decking, etc. all on me. At least thats the plan [tongue]