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« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2012, 04:52 AM »

To the OP  I too am  a MAC user and have no issues posting pictures. Please keep in mind the size limitation of the picture. If you are using a digital camera then I have found using the VGA setting for photo size works very well for posting ones pictures. If the picture is too large it will not post regardless of the type of personal computer that one is using. On iPhoto view the picture you want to post and click on the little i and the size of the picture in pixel dimensions and kilobytes will be displayed in a preview window. This will help to determine if the picture is one that can post or not. Try this out and I think you will g\have success in sharing your very good ideas with your fellow FOGGERS!

Picture of my KAPEX posted using 2010 vintage MAC MINI.
TO post click drop down for insert inline image. A bracketed box will appear like this:  . After the # type in an integer value for the number that will represent your picture. I.E. 1 for the first picture that you want to post, 2 for another one. You must have a bracketed box for each subsequent image that you wish to post. 
Click on Additional Options.
Next to Attach click on the Choose File button. Now iPhoto should let you preview the image that you would like to select. After confirming that the picture is not too large to post select it and it will appear next to the choose file button. If you want to post more than one image then click on more attachments and follow the above procedure.
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« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2012, 04:58 AM »

Well I tried to show you what the dialog box for the insert inline image would look like but the application here thought I wanted to display my example picture again. Well this stuff is just a bunch of sand plastic and aluminum after all. LOL. Laughing Laughing
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« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2012, 06:53 PM »

Scot,

Yes, the material IS Medex!

Thought I would pass on the contact info for my CNC vender for anyone in the Maryland/Pennsylvania area that might be interested in something similar. They said to mention that the price will reduce if they are drilling more than 1 sheet at a time.

Reisterstown Lumber Co.

Chuck Cray, PE, Structural Engineer, RLC Design and Engineering, LLC
13040 Old Hanover Rd, Reisterstown, MD 21136
phone 410.833.1300 / fax 410.833.6803 / cell 410.812.6851

Also, thanks Peter and Tom for the photo posting advice and link, etc. I'll be shooting and posting a few photos early next week.
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« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2012, 11:32 PM »

Tom, Can I ask what that is on the bottom of your Kapex UG stand. Both the green plate and the other part that goes around the swing out leg? Interesting that I have not seen these before.

Thanks
-Ty


To the OP  I too am  a MAC user and have no issues posting pictures. Please keep in mind the size limitation of the picture. If you are using a digital camera then I have found using the VGA setting for photo size works very well for posting ones pictures. If the picture is too large it will not post regardless of the type of personal computer that one is using. On iPhoto view the picture you want to post and click on the little i and the size of the picture in pixel dimensions and kilobytes will be displayed in a preview window. This will help to determine if the picture is one that can post or not. Try this out and I think you will g\have success in sharing your very good ideas with your fellow FOGGERS!
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Picture of my KAPEX posted using 2010 vintage MAC MINI.
TO post click drop down for insert inline image. A bracketed box will appear like this:  [ ERROR: SPECIFIED ATTACHMENT MISSING ] . After the # type in an integer value for the number that will represent your picture. I.E. 1 for the first picture that you want to post, 2 for another one. You must have a bracketed box for each subsequent image that you wish to post. 
Click on Additional Options.
Next to Attach click on the Choose File button. Now iPhoto should let you preview the image that you would like to select. After confirming that the picture is not too large to post select it and it will appear next to the choose file button. If you want to post more than one image then click on more attachments and follow the above procedure.
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« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2012, 11:05 PM »

The reason that you may not have seen the green plate and other attachment at the bottom of the Kapex UG Cart is because they are some accessories that I crafted up on my own. As I only have a two car garage that I can fill up with tools like an MFT3, cutting table, CT36 dust extractor with WCR1000, two really cool router tables, drill press on wheels, dovetailing station, and storage for my rails and clamps and on and on. I decided that my Kapex needed to be mobi;e as well. Thus I purchased a UG cart. The thing that I found lacking on the cart for shop use was the ability to safely and easily roll the Kapex around on the UG Cart. Tipping over $2100.00 worth of saw and stand if it gets away from you while moving it about did not appeal to me. Thus I designed a set of cantilevered casters that allow me to move the saw with ease and safety. The casters set outside of the UG stands footprint for added stability. They lock to hold the saw in place whilst cutting material. Part of my design criteria was to in no way modify or violate the UG Cart. I attach my caster set with a standard Kapex mounting set that works with the MFT tables. My design requires only two bolts for holding as the cantilever design has self holding in the other dimensions and is very solid too. The green plate is a support for a CT MIDI dust extractor that is dedicated for Kapex use. The space below the saw is perfect for this use as I do not transport my saw out of my shop. BUT if I wanted to use the UG Cart as FESTOOL thought it would be used, i.e. moving the saw to different job sites , I can set the stand back to original condition in about five minutes. Let me know if you would like more details. Always happy to share.  Smile
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« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2012, 05:17 AM »

i wouldnt mind a few more pics
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« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2012, 04:31 AM »

Okay I took some more pictures to show some details pertaining to the Cantilevered Castor set and Green Mounting Plate for the KAPEX UG Stand.

KAPEX on UG Cart with CT MIDI and Castors locked and ready to cut.

Fresh Cut.

Wheels chocked and saw leaned back for conversion to stock UG Cart.

Riser support block to ease conversion process.

CT MIDI removed from the Green Plate.

Green Plate which is held in place with UG Stand feet and lock knobs.

Green Plate removed with holders next to it.

Rear support detail on the Green Plate.

Cantilevered Castor Plate. Guess the paint on the Green Plate was not quite dry yet!

Castor Plate loose from UG Cart with KAPEX holders and UG Stand feet reattached. Castor Plate is now ready for removal.

KAPEX UG Stand in stock configuration.

Castor Plate with KAPEX hold downs.

Side view of Castor Plate.

Bottom view of Castor Plate.

Detail of castor mounting.

Three quarter view showing cantilever arm which supports the two by four castor mount.

Bottom view showing cutout detail to accommodate UG Stand clips.

Standard KAPEX hold downs used to fix the Castor Plate to the UG Stand.

Mounting hole front side of UG Stand.

Mounting hole rear side of UG Stand.
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KAPEX with CT MIDI on Green Plate attached to Cantilevered Castor Plate mounted on the UG Stand ready to rock and roll. Time to convert from stock setup to my DELUXE setup is about eight minutes. Bear in mind that no KAPEX, UG Stand or CT MIDI was harmed during the conversion process or documentation process carried out here within.
And finally the parts used to construct the Green Plate and Cantilevered Castor Plate were some offcuts that I had laying around the shop. I employed dominos throughout for rigidity of the structure and obtained the green and gray paint at my nearby Lowes. 
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« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2012, 02:32 PM »

Sorry for the delay in posting photos of the my new MFT-style table but I had to put the project on hold for a few weeks to handle a family health issue. All's well now. So, here's a description of a few features and photos.

The table measures approx. 4'x6'. It's just cobbled together from construction grade pine, scrounged from old workbenches and leftover from various past projects. The only new wood purchased were the 4 table top trim pieces.  It's height is 35.5" to serve as an extension table for the MFT... AND an outfeed table for my Inca 12" tablesaw... AND an assembly table. (A true "Multi-Function Table.")

For now, the MDF top and its frame are not attached to the base. They just float on 6 support blocks attached to the 2x6 legs. This allows for shimming at the blocks as (if) needed. I've been checking it regularly for warping/movement through frosty nights to 80 degree afternoons. It's remained remarkably flat... so far. We'll see what happens when the really hot humid weather arrives.


For the top framing members, I used 1x4 material as apposed to wider 2x so for maximum access to all the holes. Then, there is a "sub-frame" of 2x4s perpendicular to the top ribs. I installed lag screws in the 2x4 directly under each top rib to support them and serve as adjustment screws which I can turn out/in to prevent sag or fine tune level, etc. So far, no adjustments have been needed.
 

Thanks again to all for your much appreciated council and encouragement. This is going to prove to be a really valuable addition to my shop!
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« Reply #38 on: April 14, 2012, 02:37 PM »

great job. id love  to have that kind of space to have a bench like that
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of 1400, MFT 3,, even more t locs for other tools


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« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2012, 07:48 AM »

That turned out really nice and useful. I am not to far from Reisterstown, about an hour. I think I will try to get one or two made.  I saw you posted the contact info before. I'll have to give them a call.
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« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2012, 04:11 PM »

The MFT on steroids!! That looks sensational. High compliments to the OP as he now has one heck of a worktable!
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« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2013, 08:09 PM »

Just bumping this since it has been a year.  Iwood75, how has this held up over the seasons?

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« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2013, 08:35 PM »

Scott,

It's held up beautifully. It is still lying flat even though it is not fastened down at all. Just seems to stay flat under its own weight. Of course, we'll see what happens as the coming summer humidity rolls over it.

Were I to do it again, the only thing I'd change is – fewer framing members. The rows of holes that straddle the "stretchers" keep the clamps from rotating 360º. Those extra cross braces were included on the theory that the lag screws that protrude from their top edges could be adjusted up or down as time passed to counter the top sag or bow. (You may have to review the photos to remember my "Rube Goldberg" adjusters.) However, I haven't needed to adjust them yet so they're just "semi" in the way. Of course, there are other holes to choose from. What I'm going to do is somehow mark those rows of holes on the top itself or on the holes' inside edges so I can readily identify them.

Thanks for the inquiry.  Joel
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« Reply #43 on: April 05, 2013, 02:29 PM »

They can't get Richlite or Extira and haven't yet found High Density Fiberboard. I visited 2 other lumber companies and they don't stock HDF and can't order-in just 1 sheet.

If you are on the east coast contact Atlantic Plywood and locate one of their dealers.  I was able to source a single 4'x8' sheet of HDF for $78USD delivered to my door. 
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