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« on: May 22, 2012, 10:15 PM » |
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I'm sure this has been discussed plenty, but I can't seem to find much info. Anyway.... I'm thinking of selling my Domino 500 and purchase the XL. I can see the advantages of having both, but for the majority of the work I do, I'm better off with a larger tenon. What do you guys think? Will I regret it???
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2012, 10:21 PM » |
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Only you can really answer this question, but if while you were using your Domino you used the largest tenons most often then it might be a good idea hat enhances your future work.
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2012, 10:41 PM » |
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I guess a better way of asking this question would be to the people who own the 500 and own or have used the XL and what their feelings on this are. I know there's no true yes or no, but I'm guessing as long as your material is not less than 3/4" and you don't mind the excess in weight, the XL would probably be just fine. Oh decisions....
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2012, 11:15 PM » |
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Get an XL and try it for 30 days before selling the DF 500.
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2012, 11:20 PM » |
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I have been the using the Domino 500 for four years now and I have the XL 700 on order and I think I'll be using them both equally depending on the job size. I just don't see one replacing the other in my work.
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2012, 02:16 AM » |
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I have been using the 500 for a year now, and the 700 for about 7 months. The area where they overlap is smaller than you might think. In fact i have never asked myself which one i should use for the task, it comes naturally. I always give priority to the 500 because of the size and weight, and i still use it for the same tasks i did before. The XL is made for different work, and in my case it doesn't take any of the 500's work over.
That being said, if you almost exclusively use the 8 or 10mm dominos with your 500 already, then the XL could in theory take over. Nothing stops you from keeping the 500 while getting the 700, and making a decision after. it could become an expensive error if you find out later that you do need a 500 after all.
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2012, 05:53 AM » |
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Anyway.... I'm thinking of selling my Domino 500 and purchase the XL. I can see the advantages of having both, but for the majority of the work I do, I'm better off with a larger tenon. To answer that question with any chance or reliability, you need to tell us what kind of joinery you'd mostly use the Domino for ~ 500 model or an XL. Without that information, no one has a chance of answering your question, at least with any degree of accuracy.
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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2012, 08:28 AM » |
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Putting my $.02 in on this - they're two tools designed to do the same task, but at different levels. I equate it to a Football (American) team having two running backs - one for the majority of the work, and another larger stronger back for pounding away at yardage.....
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2012, 09:12 AM » |
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I'm thinking of selling my Domino 500
I'm certain there's a few here that would argue that that's not "thinking" in any form we can relate to here 
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2012, 10:06 AM » |
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my way of thinking is if the 500 has been working for ya then keep it.
I have a project coming up where a 700 would be ideal.
But b/c its only one project Im not going to buy one.
Im going to make the 500 work.
Its all personal preference.
You wont have a hard time selling yer domino.
It will go fast.
but remember , once its gone its gone.
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Peter, my favorite RBs, fantasy wise are the LeSean McCoys and Ray Rices. Small, quick guys who may only rush for 90 yards but will receive for 80 yards. IMO, Eric
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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2012, 10:57 AM » |
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I still wish my Jets kept little Leon Washington, but I'll stay on topic....everyone has made great points. I guess it depends on what end of the spectrum of work Evergreen does. One Domino is certainly not better than the other - just two different capacities.
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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2012, 11:06 AM » |
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I personally don't envision doing any projects that would need anything larger than the 500. (Famous last words, of course.) I have made some domino joints where I had to actually reduce the length of a 4mm domino to keep it from breaking through the outer surface of a 60 degree miter with 1/2" material.
Maybe when I start making outdoor play sets for my grandsons, I'll wish I had the DF 700.
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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2012, 11:25 AM » |
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Lot's of good responses! Thanks for all the input! I make a lot of custom door's of all sorts: Screen doors, french door's, exterior gates, carriage, etc..., as well as built ins, etc... Therefore it would make sense to own the XL. The only reason I ask the question is, I'm not sure I can swallow spending $1200 on another domino at this time. Obviously if I sold the 500 it would greatly help to fund a tool that I most likely would use more than my current domino, but at the same time don't want to regret it in the end. I think I will purchase the XL and from there get a sense if I need both or if one will do. In the end, I'm guessing I'll need to find a new spot in my trailer for another domino;)
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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2012, 11:27 AM » |
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I still wish my Jets kept little Leon Washington...
ya, but it'll be even more interesting to see if/how long Sanchez can hold on...
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« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2012, 11:28 AM » |
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I still wish my Jets kept little Leon Washington...
ya, but it'll be even more interesting to see if/how long Sanchez can hold on... Six weeks.....
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« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2012, 11:29 AM » |
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Lot's of good responses! Thanks for all the input! I make a lot of custom door's of all sorts: Screen doors, french door's, exterior gates, carriage, etc..., as well as built ins, etc... Therefore it would make sense to own the XL. The only reason I ask the question is, I'm not sure I can swallow spending $1200 on another domino at this time. Obviously if I sold the 500 it would greatly help to fund a tool that I most likely would use more than my current domino, but at the same time don't want to regret it in the end. I think I will purchase the XL and from there get a sense if I need both or if one will do. In the end, I'm guessing I'll need to find a new spot in my trailer for another domino;)
Don't forget, you'll need to buy new cutters and Dominos as well....
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« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2012, 11:52 AM » |
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I guess a better way of asking this question would be to the people who own the 500 and own or have used the XL and what their feelings on this are. I know there's no true yes or no, but I'm guessing as long as your material is not less than 3/4" and you don't mind the excess in weight, the XL would probably be just fine. Oh decisions....
The 8mm is pushing it a bit for use in the edge of 3/4", depending of course on the type of material and application. If you have used that with out problems then no biggie, but something to consider. Seth
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« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2012, 11:55 AM » |
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I guess a better way of asking this question would be to the people who own the 500 and own or have used the XL and what their feelings on this are. I know there's no true yes or no, but I'm guessing as long as your material is not less than 3/4" and you don't mind the excess in weight, the XL would probably be just fine. Oh decisions....
The 8mm is pushing it a bit for use in the edge of 3/4", depending of course on the type of material and application. If you have used that with out problems then no biggie, but something to consider. Seth 8 out of 18 ? Don't think I'd do that 
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« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2012, 12:29 PM » |
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I understand wanting the newest cool gadget to hit the streets. This one is a specialty tool that few people will actually use for more than one or two projects. There's nothing wrong with spending the money if you have it.....however, if anyone is on the fence, you probably don't need one. Evergreen just might be the exception.
With all of the impulse buys, there are going to be a lot XL's sitting on garage shelves unused here in N. America in the near future. Wait a year or so and number of "like new" XL's will be hitting the classified section.
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« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2012, 12:34 PM » |
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I have been the using the Domino 500 for four years now and I have the XL 700 on order and I think I'll be using them both equally depending on the job size. I just don't see one replacing the other in my work.
Jack
Domino also have 500 and XL (I think it shows in my avatar)  I do everything from bead and ending ... for this is not going to sell is not one of them.
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« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2012, 01:20 PM » |
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If you can justify it keep both. For the type of doors you are describing then you definitely need the XL. I am doing an Ash door just now with the XL & it is such a time saver. When I first heard Festool were releasing a bigger Domino I thought to myself, what a stupid idea but I can tell you I had one pretty soon after realeased & not regretted it for a second. The first 2 jobs I did with it it paid for itself in the saved time !
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If its made of wood, i can make it smaller. Shirt size medium p.s- ive started reading these too
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« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2012, 02:02 PM » |
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I'm generally not a fan of selling tools... you already have it, you have the supplies for it, its integrated in your work flow...
BUT with festool stuff selling for 95% of retail in ebay, you almost don't loose.
But I would still keep it, at the very least get the XL and try it for 30 days.
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