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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: What Do You Use To Mark Wood?
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2018, 12:48 PM »
I’ve only been using the Pentel Graph Gear for 2 years (probably learned about it here from rst). But I’ve been using mechanical pencils since the mid-‘50s when they started coming home in my dad’s pocket protector from his job at Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville Alabama. That job led to him helping design launch pads for the Apollo program (his specialty was swing arms) which eventually took the family to Cape Kennedy.

Of the many many mechanical pencils I’ve bought and used since then the Graph Gear are my favorite.

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Offline Birdhunter

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Re: What Do You Use To Mark Wood?
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2018, 03:22 PM »
Michael,

My dad worked at Huntsville on the Saturn booster program while an employee of Boeing. This was in the early sixties. He later ran the medical systems program for Skylab. He did work at Cape Canaveral. I wonder if he knew your dad.
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: What Do You Use To Mark Wood?
« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2018, 04:35 PM »
@Birdhunter Chrysler had the contract to build the launch pads. Sooo many people worked on the space program. (Fun fact- when I was born about 15k people lived in Huntsville. By the time I was 10 years old the population had increased to 100k)

When we lived on Merritt Island our next door neighbor worked for Boeing. He was really ticked off when the program ended and he was transferred back to Seattle just to be laid off.

My dad was a mechanical designer. He managed to get 4 years of technical education in just 2 years via a program that carried over for a short time from the war effort but wasn’t able to get the full blown degree that would have allowed him to advance further. Sounds like your father was higher up the hierarchy.

Offline Chris Perren

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Re: What Do You Use To Mark Wood?
« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2018, 04:57 PM »
I worked the last few years of the shuttle program at Kennedy Space Center.  Really enjoyed the shuttle launches.  Now flying to the  west coast ... 

Offline Birdhunter

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Re: What Do You Use To Mark Wood?
« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2018, 05:19 PM »
We moved my dad to a retirement community toward the end. He loved to talk about the space program. He also loved to kiss the ladies. He was called the kissing astronaut. His really was a great generation.
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Offline elm

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Re: What Do You Use To Mark Wood?
« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2018, 10:59 PM »
I might have gone off the deep end here, but I used pencils for a while and now mostly use a razor blade (utility knife).  With the track system I have it dialed in and get very precise with the razor.

Offline ElectricFeet

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Re: What Do You Use To Mark Wood?
« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2018, 01:33 PM »
+1 for masking tape. I just use the cheap light-yellow stuff. If it's not there for long, it leave no trace.

Offline UncleJoe

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Re: What Do You Use To Mark Wood?
« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2018, 10:45 PM »
I gave a lot of thought to this at one time then I watched a video of Sam Maloof making furniture. So I wondered just what did this world famous wood worker use. Much to my surprise in the videos, several of them,  it looks like he use a Bic Ball point pen a lot.  Wow was I surprised [eek]

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Online Cheese

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Re: What Do You Use To Mark Wood?
« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2018, 01:30 AM »
How do you guys feel about the mechanical durability of these Pentels?  As I stated, I’ve been using the Alvin Draftmatics for years.  In addition to not dropping the pencil tip down (they seem to always land tip down kinda like jelly toast), the internal mechanics wear out in about one year.  I really like the Alvin’s, but at $15 each, they do get spendy.

I’ve used the Pentels for years. Being a designer, they were a huge step up from having to sharpen your common mechanical pencil on a sandpaper strip every 2-3 minutes.  For a typical large diameter, 2-3mm pencil lead, the amount of time spent designing was sometimes equal to the time that was spent sharpening the pencil. And in order to keep the pencil line as thin as possible, for accuracy reasons, the pencil needed to be twriled in between your fingers constantly in order to make sure the pencil line was as thin as possible. Ah....when life was simple before the time of CAD...NOT.

So, having used Pentels for 20+ years, the biggest problem with them is that at some time in their lifetime, they fail to feed the lead and they just give out. Probably about 10 years I stumbled upon Alvin mechanical pencils and they’ve worked extremely well.

I’ve used them ever since and they are my favorite. Rotring is also another great pencil, however they do not have a lot of US exposure.

Offline ChuckM

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Re: What Do You Use To Mark Wood?
« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2018, 12:35 PM »
Thanks to the post by Naildrivingman, I ordered a 0.3mm DelGuard pencil, and my use confirmed its claim: it is unbreakable even when you press the tip hard on the paper, unlike my other regular 0.3mm pencil (also from Japan).

I also received my order for a 175th Anniversary Stanley measuring tape...made in Thailand, 150g in weight. As far as I know, it is not available in Canada yet.


Offline Naildrivingman

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Re: What Do You Use To Mark Wood?
« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2018, 06:02 AM »
For smooth wood I like the Pentel Graph Gear.

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If you remember to squeeze the pocket clip when you put it down you’ll never damage the tip since the pocket clip releases the lock that keeps the pencil point projected. The entire mechanism then withdraws into the barrel like a turtle’s head.
I actually went ahead and purchased the Pentecostal Graph Gear, because it appeared to be more slender than the Zebra.  Having used them for about a month now, I am pleased with the retractable collet.  I have dropped these several times (yeas, read sausage fingers....) and thus far, no problems. I hope the internal mechanisms hold up as well.  I will definitely keep the Zaebra in mind.
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: What Do You Use To Mark Wood?
« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2018, 11:04 AM »
Glad you like the Graph Gear.

I’m going to get a DelGuard 0.3. Doesn’t break!? Incredible!

Offline jobsworth

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Re: What Do You Use To Mark Wood?
« Reply #42 on: October 12, 2018, 11:11 AM »
Pica Pencils, lead color depends on color of the species of the wood

Offline ChuckM

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Re: What Do You Use To Mark Wood?
« Reply #43 on: October 12, 2018, 11:42 AM »
Glad you like the Graph Gear.

I’m going to get a DelGuard 0.3. Doesn’t break!? Incredible!

Make sure you follow the instruction and don't retract (i.e. push the tube) more than three times, otherwise the lead will be too long for the tip to protect it from breaking.

Online GoingMyWay

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Re: What Do You Use To Mark Wood?
« Reply #44 on: October 12, 2018, 11:52 AM »
Thanks to this thread I bought the DelGard and a Pentel in .5mm.  I was happy with my Sharpwriter pencils until I got an Incra Precision T Rule and discovered that the Sharpwriters use .7mm lead.

That's ok.  One can never have too many pencils - I always misplace them.

The Pentel arrived just loose in the box so it seems the lead inside broke during transit.  As a result no lead was feeding out when I pushed the end.  I actually initially thought it might have shipped with no lead inside since nothing was happened when I pushed on the end.  I had to watch a quick YouTube video to figure out how to disassemble the unit.  There ended up being a little piece of lead that I guess was too short to advance and I guess too long for the next piece of lead to feed in to push out the broken piece.  It works fine now.  The retractable tip is neat - I wish that the whole pointed end retracted, if it did I'd consider carrying that in my pants pocket everyday (I currently carry a Fisher Telescoping Space Pen). 

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Offline ben_r_

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Re: What Do You Use To Mark Wood?
« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2018, 01:49 PM »
Most of the time I use a Rotring 500 or a Zebra M-701 depending on whether I need 0.5mm or 0.7mm lead.
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Offline Kodi Crescent

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Re: What Do You Use To Mark Wood?
« Reply #47 on: October 12, 2018, 02:28 PM »
For cutting I use the scribe point on my Talmeter tape measure, then darken the line with a Pentel mechanical pencil.  Most stuff gets painted over, so a Sharpie marks other things.