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Online Peter Halle

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What one Festool Would You recommend?
« on: September 12, 2017, 07:41 PM »
If a family member or friend (woodworkers) came up to you and said "I have seen your tools and want to buy one.  I want to know which ONE tool really stands out to you and I want to buy that.  I know that I might not use it immediately but I want to see what they are all about"

Would would your response be in regards to a specific tool suggestion?

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Offline Birdhunter

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2017, 07:58 PM »
I'd ask them what type of woodworking they do. If advanced, Domino. If novice, CSX and a set of drill bits.
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Offline Gerald_D

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2017, 08:00 PM »
Wow Peter- that's a tough question- almost like asking what your favorite song is (or favorite beer).  The old salesman in me would answer a question with a question:  what work do they plan on doing? 

I cannot narrow down to one, but my top three would be:

Domino DF500
CT Vac
ETS150/3 Sander

Hope to talk to you this weekend,
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Offline ChuckM

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2017, 08:05 PM »
#1 choice:

DF500 (unless he or she has explicitly indicated certain type of woodworking that a joinery tool is of no use to).

#2 choice:  Ditto

#3 choice: Ditto

Offline rst

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2017, 08:06 PM »
The route to my Festaddiction was through the sanders...bought a recon ETS 125.  As someone that had to buy a fan powered full face filtered mask to indulge in my wood passion and as someone who has been sanding wood since 1971 I was amazed at the efficiency of   the dust collection.  The new ETS ECs are the bomb.

Offline Tinker

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2017, 08:26 PM »
@Peter Halle, that is a very good question.

As others have noted, I would ask about their experience, what is their main objective, what tools they already own and use.  Whatever they might answer, and whatever tool I would recommend, all Festoys eventually hook up to one of the CT vacs. I would probably recommend one of the sanders or the TS 55 with guide rail.  Maybe becoming familiar with the FOG might be the first tool for someone who has no experience with Festoys.

There are so many ways to answer that question; tomorrow, I might answer differently.
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Offline smirak

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2017, 08:55 PM »
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I don't have many festools...domino 500, ts55, csx and ct midi. If I had to choose one, I'd say domino,  it I wouldn't buy it without a dust extractor, so I'd have to say 2. My next festool will be an MFT or a sander.

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2017, 09:28 PM »
all of them
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Offline DB10

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2017, 09:41 PM »
Another thumbs up for the Domino and I would also add the TSC 55.

Offline Jozsef Kozma

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2017, 09:55 PM »
1) TSC
2) HKC
3) Sanders
4)MIDI
5)Domino
6)1400 with holly rail and

Offline ScotF

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2017, 10:01 PM »
Tough question and it depends on what they need it for. But, I would say the TSC55 would be the first option is only one, since it has a dust bag and comes with a rail so you can get started using it and saw horses or a piece of foam. So useful for so many projects. After that I think a sander and vac and then a router and MFT. I love the Domino, but I consider this more of a luxury since you can make most joinery with a router. If this person already has a router, then the Domino would my 5th purchase.

Offline waho6o9

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2017, 10:09 PM »
Domino

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2017, 10:17 PM »
Conturo :)

Probably the least useful, not terribly exciting in what it does, but I think that it really represents the Festool brand like nothing else.
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Offline ben_r_

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2017, 10:30 PM »
Really depends on what they see themselves doing in the world of woodworking. But for pretty much any Festool lover its bound to be one of the four:

Track Saw
Domino
CT Vac
Sander
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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2017, 10:57 PM »
Since I feel the Festool system is built around superior dust extraction, and because I needed to clean my basement workspace even before I could start using tools, my advice would be one of the Festool dust extractors.  From there, the money quickly spends itself.

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Offline Master Carpenter

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2017, 12:47 AM »
If they work with sheet goods, the tracksaw, specifically the ts55. It was a game changer as to workflow.
Second woild be a sander, only one I'd go with ro150. The dust collection was another game changer.

I have a domino, but really don't get everyone's love of it. I use it but it's not the holy grail of woodworking machines that everyone thinks.
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Offline #Tee

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2017, 03:37 AM »
ya all depends on their level or what type of work. you shouldnt recommend a cxs when they drill cement all day or a ts55 when they just chop 2x4's for a living.
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Offline Bob D.

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2017, 04:35 AM »
all of them

Right.

It's a system, so you're buying it piece by piece until you have the whole thing.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2017, 04:40 AM »
TSC 55 with a track because its use is universal. From sheet goods to drywall to aluminum.

Domino because its use is a game changer.

Offline Kev

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2017, 05:03 AM »
TSC55 ... with a rail it's the one Festool that does an exceptional job without needing another tool from the range.

If the question was "which two" it's an entirely different story .. as has been said "It's a system" !

Offline Reiska

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2017, 05:54 AM »
It depends, as many have already stated.

If only one tool I would say TSC55 with a 800mm and a holy 1400mm tracks (crosscut and sheets) since it has the dust bag integrated.

If a package deal is an ok answer, then I would push a CT vac and an ETS sander. The sander is not special without the dust extraction, so can't recommend it as the only tool.

And ofc. the answer would heavily depend on his existing tools and projects e.g. would a Domino be a better fit with the vacuum or not.
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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2017, 07:17 AM »
#1 - a secret hidden passage to sneak tools into their house without being seen by their better half, once the first Festool moves in the rest of the clan will follow

I'm going to go a slightly different way to everyone else and instead of suggesting the TSC 55, going to go with the HKC 55 instead.
It can also use the dust bag, the set option comes with a FSK rail and it works on the FS rail too.

Many project plans involve 2x4s and not sheet goods so the HKC/FSK system might be a better option than TSC/FS to start off with.
Portable mitre saw that gives them great accuracy without any fussing about of whether the fence/blade is at 90* etc.
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Offline Cheese

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2017, 09:42 AM »
Many project plans involve 2x4s and not sheet goods so the HKC/FSK system might be a better option than TSC/FS to start off with.
Portable mitre saw that gives them great accuracy without any fussing about of whether the fence/blade is at 90* etc.

I think your right...I was cutting 2x materials for a bathroom project with my HKC & FSK rail, then I swapped out blades and put it on a FS rail and proceeded to cut cement board. [cool]

Offline Jmacpherson

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2017, 10:29 AM »
I think your right...I was cutting 2x materials for a bathroom project with my HKC & FSK rail, then I swapped out blades and put it on a FS rail and proceeded to cut cement board. [cool]

It is the tool that led me down the Festool rabbit hole.
I know it has its critics but I think it is possibly their most versatile tool after the Rotex sanders.
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Offline Brian Livingstone

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2017, 06:53 PM »
I can't believe no one has mentioned this already.

My unequivocal recommendation for a first Festool is the LS130.

Just today I was building a $900 coffee table of solid ABW 2 inches by 6, very heavy and sharp edges.  What is the first tool I use to break those sharp edges, and make handling those big pieces of hardwood so much more pleasant  That's right the LS130.

Soft edges, no chance of a splinter.  Limited use, but nothing else like it.

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Offline Neal W

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2017, 07:37 PM »
From a somewhat inexperienced woodworker who is closer to the beginning of my festool journey than the  end, here is how I would do it if I had to start from scratch.

1.  TS55 and guide rail.  If you can't cut straight and square you're wasting your time.  I couldn't follow a line with a circular saw to save my soul. A track saw helps me make long, straight square cuts (bonus add on for this: The guide rail square from @TSO_Products ).  Besides I can pocket hole things for joints....

2.  RO150.  If I only could have one sander, this is it.  It is very versatile in that it can be used for super aggressive to finer stuff.  It may not be perfect at the finer stuff, but it can get the job done.

3.  DF500, as others have said, there is nothing like it, and it seems like I use it on almost every project that involves building a box.  I love it, and it may be one of the last tools I would ever sell.

The OF1400 is easily one of the best routers (out of about 4) I've ever used.  It just misses the cut on the top three.
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Offline HowardH

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2017, 08:12 PM »
From a somewhat inexperienced woodworker who is closer to the beginning of my festool journey than the  end, here is how I would do it if I had to start from scratch.

1.  TS55 and guide rail.  If you can't cut straight and square you're wasting your time.  I couldn't follow a line with a circular saw to save my soul. A track saw helps me make long, straight square cuts (bonus add on for this: The guide rail square from @TSO_Products ).  Besides I can pocket hole things for joints....

2.  RO150.  If I only could have one sander, this is it.  It is very versatile in that it can be used for super aggressive to finer stuff.  It may not be perfect at the finer stuff, but it can get the job done.

3.  DF500, as others have said, there is nothing like it, and it seems like I use it on almost every project that involves building a box.  I love it, and it may be one of the last tools I would ever sell.

The OF1400 is easily one of the best routers (out of about 4) I've ever used.  It just misses the cut on the top three.

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2017, 09:26 PM »
I am tempted to say a vacuum, but these days everyone does dust control and sanders.

So it would probably be an MFT and a set of clamps... And then Aus-dogs in Australia, or whatever the local dogs are in one's country.

Offline hemlock

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2017, 09:44 PM »
Domino DF 500, no question.  Really is a game changer.   If they were novices and wouldn't appreciate joinery nirvana, TS55.  Both with a vac, its a system I'd tell them.   [big grin]   

Offline jjowen

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Re: What one Festool Would You recommend?
« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2017, 12:57 AM »
This is a trick question right? There is no such thing as just one Festool tool. Hands up who has exactly one? See, it is either none, or lots.
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