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« on: March 27, 2012, 09:03 PM » |
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I'm thinking about getting an OF1400 to complement my DW625. I don't do a lot of routing and my Dewalt is a good bit of kit but lets me down on dust collection when I'm edge routing. Typically I will cut an end panel or worktop to size using my TS and trim the final 1-2 mm using a 12.7 x 50 bit which blows dust everywhere. Softer vinyl clad panels are fine with just the TS for a finished cut but veneered or harder lacquered gloss panels seem to need a routed finish.
My question is will the OF1400 collect all the dust with the chip catcher attachment in the above scenario?
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« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2012, 10:55 PM » |
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It doesn't catch all but it does catch significantly more than without the catch on. when I owned DW625, I had one of these.. DW6913That accessory did catch quite a bit of dust created. I would say OF1400 is better in comparison but doesn't catch all dust. |
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2012, 11:28 PM » |
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It will get almost all of it and what it doesn't get will be kept in the immediate work area. You won't need to vacuum the whole room. The D36 hose makes a difference on the router, which is one of the benefits of the 1400 over the 1010.
It also helps to get used to keeping the cup/shroud rotated forward as you route. You can test the effect of this by turning the router (swing the handle) forward and backward as you route. Which will rotate the cup as well. If you see too much dust shooting out the front swing the handle forward a bit to close the gap between the edge and the cup at the front.
Feeding too fast will also reduce the collection. You need to give the suction a chance to pull the dust in as you move along. Not that you need to go slow, but you will see a decrease in DC if you really push fast.
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2012, 11:04 AM » |
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I couldn't have said it better, Seth!
Tom
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andy5405
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2012, 04:56 PM » |
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Thanks for the replies, it sounds like I might have to put Festool's 30 day suck it and see policy to the test. I had an answer on another forum to exactly the same question that wasn't at all positive so I'm still a bit in the dark.
I've also got an idea kicking around in my head that may work with my 625. I'm going to try and attach a cut down 40 or 50mm waste pipe fitting to my use my Trend Unibase using two part super glue. I can then have a selection of corresponding attachments using waste pipe that will be a snug fit and quick to attach. It's either going to be a stroke of near genius or completely pants. Either way my cordless Dremmel that I had to own and never gets used will get a workout.
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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2012, 07:09 PM » |
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When I bought my 1400, I sold the DW625 and never looked back. Dust collection is much, much better. Once I routed 24 feet of dovetails and had maybe a tablespoon of dust on the floor. About 2 minutes to clean up compared to 20 minutes with the DeWally. But to be precise - it does not collect all the dust when edge routing, but pretty darned close.
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2012, 07:38 PM » |
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Well to me the 1400 seems to have no dust collection watching crpaulk video. Fast forward to 4.33 to see when crpaulk starts routering Cus not being funny but the OF1400 has TWO! Chances to suck up the dust as crppaulk brought the router back for a second pass! The OF2200 would of taken ALL the dust on the first pass second pass it would of sucked the dust of the floor! lol  JMB |
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2012, 08:02 PM » |
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I've used the OF 1400 quite a bit and even though I'm not thrilled with the design of the chip catcher (the one that goes in and around the bit), it does pick up the dust enough to make a huge difference over using a router of any brand with no dust collection. I've found a difference between using the D27 hose vs. the D36 hose and use both depending on whether flexibility is more important or volume of dust collection.
I also agree that Seth's post is good advice.
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2012, 08:04 PM » |
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I haven't seen that video but my OF 1400 picks up dust very well, unless I forget to close the trap door on the shroud. I broke it off once being stupid and it didn't work to my expectations. Once I replaced it and close it, it works fine with a 36 mm hose. I have plugged a 27 mm hose.
It's also my experience that the edge routing cup works just like Seth described, if you twist it to the correct position, it grabs almost everything. In that regard, it's a lot like the dust collection on the RAS. If you have the brush on the RAS in the wrong place, it will throw a lot of dust but if you position it correctly, it grabs almost all of it.
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2012, 08:10 PM » |
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2012, 10:10 PM » |
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He's exposing a lot of the bit to the open slot in his fairly thick template. I don't see how any router could catch nearly all of that. The suction is lost over that big gap.
Tom
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« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2012, 08:08 AM » |
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Yup, but as others have pointed out, with the 36 mm hose you put all the chances on your side, also I have yet to get a clog between the dust extraction hood and the hose as I would get with the 27 mm hose. You basically need a 36 mm hose for the apex, TS 75 or 1400/2200.
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« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2012, 01:13 PM » |
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He's exposing a lot of the bit to the open slot in his fairly thick template. I don't see how any router could catch nearly all of that. The suction is lost over that big gap.
Tom
The OF2200 does catch it pretty much all of it. In the video the 1400 leaves that much it needs wiping off JMB |
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