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Question: Which best describes you?
Full-time professional (more than 50% of income from construction/carpentry/WW) - 67 (36.4%)
Part-time professional (less than 50% of income from const./carp/WW) - 17 (9.2%)
Serious amateur/hobbyist/DIYer - 93 (50.5%)
Festool dealer/employee - 3 (1.6%)
Other - 4 (2.2%)
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« on: March 21, 2012, 06:46 PM »

Just curious!  You can vote twice if more than one applies.
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2012, 06:49 PM »

Can you add thorn for me?
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2012, 06:53 PM »

Can you add thorn for me?

I could, but thought it was already a given...  Cool
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2012, 06:54 PM »


Can you add thorn for me?

I could, but thought it was already a given...  Cool

Big Grin
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2012, 07:01 PM »

 Thumbs Up Bite your tongue
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2012, 07:13 PM »

Hmmm,

You didnt have wood hack as a option.

I guess I cant answer
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2012, 11:06 PM »

According to my wife, I'm a serious tool buyer Eek!
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2012, 11:33 PM »

According to my wife, I'm a serious tool buyer Eek!

+1 -- actually tool collector also fits...

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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2012, 11:53 PM »

According to my wife, I'm a serious tool buyer Eek!

+1 -- actually tool collector also fits...

Scot

Yeah, see, that's where the "serious" in "serious amateur" comes from...it doesn't imply skill or experience or dedication. Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2012, 12:35 AM »

According to my wife, I'm a serious tool buyer Eek!

+1 -- actually tool collector also fits...

Scot

Kinda +1 ... My wife would say I'm just a serious tool.

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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2012, 12:49 AM »

According to my wife, I'm a serious tool buyer Eek!
+1 here also.  She is always telling me that I'm a tool collector.  I'm glad I'm not the only one with a wife that thinks that way.
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2012, 02:48 AM »

Full time pro here and serious tool nerd that needs to get out more. Already thinking about the next Festool purchase and I don't really need it, I should be saving.
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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2012, 03:55 AM »

Full time pro here and serious tool nerd that needs to get out more. Already thinking about the next Festool purchase and I don't really need it, I should be saving.

Saving? Festools ARE an investment ... aren't they??  Eek!
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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2012, 01:59 PM »

Shameless bump to poll
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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2012, 03:14 PM »

According to my wife, I'm a serious tool buyer Eek!

+ 1 and please after I die do not sell My Festool stuff for what I told you  I paid for them.   Big Grin
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« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2012, 09:03 PM »

I have to fess up to the fact that besides being a serious tool buyer, I have a very full lumber rack with about 600 bf of rough lumber, my supply is getting low Eek!
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« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2012, 09:20 PM »

I have to fess up to the fact that besides being a serious tool buyer, I have a very full lumber rack with about 600 bf of rough lumber, my supply is getting low Eek!

We could help Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2012, 09:27 PM »

I have to fess up to the fact that besides being a serious tool buyer, I have a very full lumber rack with about 600 bf of rough lumber, my supply is getting low Eek!

We could help Smiley

Thanks Paul Wink

My biggest problem is that I have very large timbers that I refuse to cut up until I have that just right project Big Grin  It better come soon or the wood will go to it's original purpose - I got these timbers from a Brazilian that ran a casket manufacturing company and he got the wood from his family in Brazil.  He went out of business and I purchased some very nice rough cut 8/4 stock 20' long x 24" wide.
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« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2012, 10:06 PM »

I might have to make a trip, Jack... I'd hate for you to fret over all that excess.


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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2012, 10:14 PM »

I might have to make a trip, Jack... I'd hate for you to fret over all that excess.


Tom

Thanks Tom,  I'm sure I'll manage to eventually make wood chips with most of my inventory Big Grin  Recently however, my search for replacement walnut and mahogany caused a bit of "sticker shock" from what I had been used to paying Eek!

BTW, The Platin 2 pads are really great for refurbishing my Acura MDX headlight covers Big Grin I hope to get to my fireplace soon.
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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2012, 07:57 PM »

I don't know what I am, so I chose Other. Must be having an identity crisis or something similar.
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« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2012, 09:09 PM »

I'm changing my status to complete numpty after a couple of cockups on site in the last week! Unfortunately no amount of investment in Festool seems to avoid the scenario where you end up repeating the age old saying: "MEASURE TWICE, CUT ONCE". It's fine with a bit of CLS but this was a £160 end panel. What's the other one? "MORE HASTE LESS SPEED"
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« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2012, 09:21 AM »

It isn't surprising that there are significantly more hobbiests here.  A lot of  "professionals" who have seen my Festools comments at how expensive they are.  They aren't worth it, overpriced, they look like toys... etc.  Its almost as if they value their time less because they do it more?   

Another factor I have heard from other pros, which I have never experienced as an employee or employer, is "my guys abuse my tools."  I don't baby my tools, but if I see a guy with banged up crappy tools or a guy that tosses a saw on the ground after using it, how can I expect he will do top notch work? 

Currently I work alone, so I can control how my tools get treated, but when I had guys work for me I took the time to teach them.

I guess this is a bit like preaching to the choir, if you are here, you "get it."   
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« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2012, 09:44 AM »

It isn't surprising that there are significantly more hobbiests here.  A lot of  "professionals" who have seen my Festools comments at how expensive they are.  They aren't worth it, overpriced, they look like toys... etc.  Its almost as if they value their time less because they do it more?   

Another factor I have heard from other pros, which I have never experienced as an employee or employer, is "my guys abuse my tools."  I don't baby my tools, but if I see a guy with banged up crappy tools or a guy that tosses a saw on the ground after using it, how can I expect he will do top notch work? 

Currently I work alone, so I can control how my tools get treated, but when I had guys work for me I took the time to teach them.

I guess this is a bit like preaching to the choir, if you are here, you "get it."   

The magic word you used was "teach".

That's something that isn't happening in the workplace enough these days ... hats of to ya!  Big Grin
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« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2012, 05:14 PM »

It isn't surprising that there are significantly more hobbiests here.  A lot of  "professionals" who have seen my Festools comments at how expensive they are.  They aren't worth it, overpriced, they look like toys... etc.  Its almost as if they value their time less because they do it more?    

Another factor I have heard from other pros, which I have never experienced as an employee or employer, is "my guys abuse my tools."  I don't baby my tools, but if I see a guy with banged up crappy tools or a guy that tosses a saw on the ground after using it, how can I expect he will do top notch work?  

Currently I work alone, so I can control how my tools get treated, but when I had guys work for me I took the time to teach them.

I guess this is a bit like preaching to the choir, if you are here, you "get it."    

I was surprised in some ways that there are more "hobbyists" on here than "professionals". A professional IMO stands to gain far more from owning Festool tools as it directly affects their bottom line. You do have to bear in mind though that there are a lot of really good guys doing really great work who have never even heard of Festool. Most Festool gear is awesome but it is in no way a magic bullet. What makes it awesome is a combination of the tools themselves and the mindset of the person using them. Festool merely enables people who are already thinking "faster, easier, smarter" to take it to another level. The overwhelming majority of time served "tradesmen" that I encounter leave me feeling luke warm at best and they could own every Festool tool in existence and I still wouldn't want to employ them for a tenner a day. I'd take the guy with the right attitude and Ryobi gear every time. I'd then work hard at getting them addicted!
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« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2012, 12:59 AM »


I was surprised in some ways that there are more "hobbyists" on here than "professionals". A professional IMO stands to gain far more from owning Festool tools as it directly affects their bottom line.
Many "pro's" have a system that they go to when ever the task  presents it self.  They know how long it takes and what to bid it at what they dont want are Surprises.   They are not in the Business of testing out tools or tool systems  and they but the cheapest tool to get the job done.... when they want to get a job done FASTER they Hire another guy not buy a boutique tool.
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