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« on: March 30, 2011, 02:00 AM »

i looked at the one at you tube ,,,great ideea ..but i would rather buy one from festool..if it where made.. so go to Shane's post and just ask for it to be built...i changed about 5 compresors in 10 years broken because of transport and not use...please help
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2011, 04:43 PM »

There is a manufacturer named Prebena that does one, try a search
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2011, 04:53 PM »

I have this one and it is small but not sure if it will go into a Sys 5, maybe

http://mydeco.com/p/stanley-scr001-45ltr-portable-compressor/GB697F48INNNXBPMYXHSDH775437M2FDJ625B66I/



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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2011, 05:16 PM »

I have my Senco trim compressor, 16 ga., 18 ga., 23 ga. guns and 50' of hose in a Sys 5.  Swapped out the lid that came with it for an Attic Lid to store the fastners for all the guns.  Eliminating trips back and forth to the van is very important for me, so now I never have to run back because I needed a different gun, or I don't have the right size nails. 
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2011, 01:21 AM »

the senco compresor just fits in without having to disassemble it ?...thanks for the reply,,really appreciate it
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2011, 06:40 AM »

Are you referring to the Senco PC1010?

Also, using a brad nailer, how often does it need to cycle - i.e. #/nails per cycle?

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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2011, 07:30 AM »

I know Seth has a Systainer with nailers and compressed CO2 cartridges (Seth has a Systainer for everything).  I tried finding the thread, but no luck (it's late... even for me!  Crying)

There was a thread about a compressed air hose reel and later I mentioned the Powertank system; there are others like Kobalt, which I believe Seth prefers due to availability quickly.

I did a detailed blog entry with lots of pictures about the Powertank system here.

If I worked on-site, there's no way I'd bring a compressor unless I needed it for something like spraying.  Nailers?  A CO2 cartridge on your hip is good for 500 nails without the cycling noise, weight, oil, draining...
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2011, 11:20 AM »

Hi,

Here are the threads on the pneumatic set up-

http://www.talkfestool.com/vb/festool-tanos-all-things-systainer/2129-complete-pneumatic-gun-system-systainer.html

http://www.talkfestool.com/vb/non-festool-power-tools/1181-co2-power-pneumatic-nailers.html

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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2011, 04:45 PM »

Are you referring to the Senco PC1010?

Also, using a brad nailer, how often does it need to cycle - i.e. #/nails per cycle?

Thanks,

RMW

The Senco compressor will not fit in a Systainer without being modified.  I have this compressor and I love it for small jobs.  The down side is you don't get many shots before the thing cycles and it is fairly loud for being so small.

I really think the idea of putting a compressor in a Systainer is of no real value.  So the compressor is a little easier to take to the job, the problem is all the added time to modify and the extra expense.  No thanks.
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2011, 05:42 PM »

Are you referring to the Senco PC1010?

Also, using a brad nailer, how often does it need to cycle - i.e. #/nails per cycle?

Thanks,

RMW

The Senco compressor will not fit in a Systainer without being modified.  I have this compressor and I love it for small jobs.  The down side is you don't get many shots before the thing cycles and it is fairly loud for being so small.

I really think the idea of putting a compressor in a Systainer is of no real value.  So the compressor is a little easier to take to the job, the problem is all the added time to modify and the extra expense.  No thanks.


I agree but I love the idea cus it keeps my van tidy I can easily stack it on other stystainers and other systainers can be stacked on top of it then.

I have been looking at the airotainer! And der free airnail guns!  But but I did not know that u can't use der airocontainer or your own large compressor to fill the gass bottles!  I had prebena rep who came to my house to demo the prebena gear to me yesterday!  Well he told me 6pounds for refills per bottle! I said it's okay I have a large 100litre compressor ill do it my self for
free lol he said does it kick out 300bar I said no only 10bar lol he said you won't be able to fill the gas bottles your self then lol

DAM it man 300+bar that is silly amount of pressure!  No way would I of know that unless he told me!   He sending me a price for all of it so I might have some new toys lol! I need to see how much bottle refills and nails would cost me compared to my crappy dewalt nail gun which keep jamming up!

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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2011, 05:50 PM »

I dont believe 300bar I think thats what argon bottles used to be filled to  Scared
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2011, 05:56 PM »

I dont believe 300bar I think thats what argon bottles used to be filled to  Scared

Sorry I got it wrong 330bar!  And yes believe it it is 330bar they require
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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2011, 05:59 PM »

Here you go festoolfootstool this is the compressor you need to fill the bottles and if you look at the specs u will see 330bar max pressure!

http://www.prebena.de/cms/91-1-PKT-FILLMASTER350-PKTfillingcompressor.html
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« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2011, 06:08 PM »

Here you go festoolfootstool this is the compressor you need to fill the bottles and if you look at the specs u will see 330bar max pressure!

http://www.prebena.de/cms/91-1-PKT-FILLMASTER350-PKTfillingcompressor.html


Nice link, I nearly fell off my chair when I saw this:



That is wrong on soooo many levels.... Eek!
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« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2011, 06:09 PM »

Yeah he gave me a leaflet with the same picture better picture  quality than this one and yes  I'll nail that any time  Tongue Out Smile!!  I laughed and was like what has she got to do with any of this.


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« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2011, 09:17 PM »

Here you go festoolfootstool this is the compressor you need to fill the bottles and if you look at the specs u will see 330bar max pressure!

http://www.prebena.de/cms/91-1-PKT-FILLMASTER350-PKTfillingcompressor.html


Nice link, I nearly fell off my chair when I saw this:

[ ERROR: SPECIFIED ATTACHMENT MISSING ]

That is wrong on soooo many levels.... Eek!


I have that happen to me all the time.  That's why I only work on fences and wear blue overalls.  Big Grin
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« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2011, 09:33 PM »

Are you referring to the Senco PC1010?

Also, using a brad nailer, how often does it need to cycle - i.e. #/nails per cycle?

Thanks,

RMW

The Senco compressor will not fit in a Systainer without being modified.  I have this compressor and I love it for small jobs.  The down side is you don't get many shots before the thing cycles and it is fairly loud for being so small.

I really think the idea of putting a compressor in a Systainer is of no real value.  So the compressor is a little easier to take to the job, the problem is all the added time to modify and the extra expense.  No thanks.


The only modification I had to make to my Senco PC1010 was to cut the handle off.  To me, there is alot of value to putting the compressor in a systainer.  Like JMB said, it helps with organization.  Also, in one hand I can carry my 16, 18 and 23 gauge guns, 50' of hose, the compressor and all the nails I need for all the guns.  That adds a lot of value to me.  Time savings and organization.  So for me, it didnt take much time to cut the handle off with a sawzall and the extra expense was a Sys 5. 
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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2011, 07:55 PM »

Just go with the Senco Fusion nail guns. They fit in the sYstainers and you don't need and air compressor, tanks or a way to fill them.  Big Grin
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« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2011, 01:05 PM »

i want a compressor systainer

in the uk there isnt a huge choice of small air compressors that run 110v, i have a 6l makita but its miles too big to fit in a sys
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« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2011, 07:52 AM »

It will never happen.  UL will not let it fly due to a systainer not being fire proof.

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« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2011, 08:35 AM »

It will never happen.  UL will not let it fly due to a systainer not being fire proof.



Why would it need to be fireproof?
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« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2011, 10:48 AM »

It will never happen.  UL will not let it fly due to a systainer not being fire proof.



Why would it need to be fireproof?

In case it caught fire. Doh! Big Grin
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« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2011, 11:22 AM »

It will never happen.  UL will not let it fly due to a systainer not being fire proof.



Never thought of that. Could this be why we don't have the VAC-SYS here in NA?



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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2011, 11:56 AM »

It will never happen.  UL will not let it fly due to a systainer not being fire proof.



Never thought of that. Could this be why we don't have the VAC-SYS here in NA?



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Seriously? So you guys over don't have any tools, equipment or appliances that have plastic outer casings? I find that very hard to believe...
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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2011, 12:31 PM »

This one looks nice  Eek!
http://img.directindustry.com/pdf/repository_di/59303/aerotainer-200-compressor-in-systainer-3l-08gal-112267_1b.jpg


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« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2011, 12:33 PM »

It will never happen.  UL will not let it fly due to a systainer not being fire proof.



Never thought of that. Could this be why we don't have the VAC-SYS here in NA?



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« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2011, 12:36 PM »

It will never happen.  UL will not let it fly due to a systainer not being fire proof.



Why would it need to be fireproof?

I think that anything like that, something inclosed inside of a box or compartment, needs to make sure the enclosure will not melt and catch fire.

I don't make the rules, just have to deal with them.

Apparently some where along the line, people stopped using common sense when it comes to keeping themselves safe.


They should line it with asbestos. Big Grin
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« Reply #27 on: June 17, 2011, 04:53 PM »

It will never happen.  UL will not let it fly due to a systainer not being fire proof.



Why would it need to be fireproof?

I think that anything like that, something inclosed inside of a box or compartment, needs to make sure the enclosure will not melt and catch fire.

I don't make the rules, just have to deal with them.

Apparently some where along the line, people stopped using common sense when it comes to keeping themselves safe.


They should line it with asbestos. Big Grin

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« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2011, 06:47 AM »

So,like I said before, do you not have any electrical equipment of any kind that is in a plastic outer casing?
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« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2011, 07:40 AM »

Yes we have all sorts of electrical stuff in plastic.  But maybe a different type of plastic.  The systainers are ABS to handle the chore of transportation.  Maybe the plastic properties come into play.  I have no idea.

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