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« on: August 20, 2011, 03:52 PM »

I wish for a corded drill; all the qualities of the current drills, and any fresh ideas, but with the ability to run on the mains: 1) I wish to be battery independent, 2) I wish for the drill to trigger a CT (although the hose may not be directly attached to the drill).
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2011, 06:23 PM »

A plug in drill with a clutch and a light are on my wish list, of coarse interchangeable chucks sold as a set and drill only.
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2011, 06:55 AM »

Well its not a Fes-, but a Protool and it's NAINA but it has a Plug-it, centrotec and lots of power.  A light is the only thing missing from your lists...




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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2011, 07:15 AM »

Well its not a Fes-, but a Protool and it's NAINA but it has a Plug-it, centrotec and lots of power.  A light is the only thing missing from your lists...




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No the Protool is also missing the batterie ability!   Thats what the OP wants!  He wants a batterie drill with the ability to be mains  not a plug-it lead.


No again the Protool is ALSO missing the wireless CT activation from his list!   He wants  a cordless tool be able to trigger the CT   which in my opinion with a plainer or something is a good idea!    

I hate cable and having a TS55 and EHL 65 batterie powered  with a wirelss trigger built in would be mint!   It would save getting all tangled up on site and needed to swap leads AND hose.     You would only have to swap hose from tool to tool which will be quicker AND less messy.     Just some how Festool needs to make a wireless hose  Scratching Chin


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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2011, 10:40 AM »

Maybe they can make it so the suction hose provides the power as well!!
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2011, 11:50 PM »

For me the clutch is foremost as when drilling large holes with a holesaw. I a prefer a battery drill so I can have the safety of the clutch and not be  thrown about when it catches, but that cant be good for the batteries and they lack the power of a plug in.
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2011, 12:07 AM »

Maybe they can make it so the suction hose provides the power as well!!

That is sort of available in the NAINA Plug-It hose.  The cord runs through the hose.

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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2011, 12:38 AM »

For me the clutch is foremost as when drilling large holes with a holesaw. I a prefer a battery drill so I can have the safety of the clutch and not be  thrown about when it catches, but that cant be good for the batteries and they lack the power of a plug in.

This is what I use to make holes, big or small, through anything.  It's AC powered and has a safety clutch.  This beast has so much torque, I've NEVER had it kickback on me or slow down going through anything, even 200 year old 12" deep beams.  I love this thing.

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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2011, 10:55 AM »

For me the clutch is foremost as when drilling large holes with a holesaw. I a prefer a battery drill so I can have the safety of the clutch and not be  thrown about when it catches, but that cant be good for the batteries and they lack the power of a plug in.

This is what I use to make holes, big or small, through anything.  It's AC powered and has a safety clutch.  This beast has so much torque, I've NEVER had it kickback on me or slow down going through anything, even 200 year old 12" deep beams.  I love this thing.

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Hmmmmmm, I did not know that had a clutch.  I have another large Milwaukee 1/2" drill that doesn't.  Might be time for an upgrade.

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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2011, 04:37 AM »

To further clarify my comment about battery independence: I am not wishing for a drill with both a battery and a cord, but if a brilliant Festool engineer designed one, and the marketing department thought it would sell better than a mains only drill, then that would be fine. It's a simple desire to keep battery dependence and management to a minimum in my life.

To further clarify my comment about triggering a CT: even if a drill is creating a small amount of debris it may be desirable if not important to have it quickly removed. If I'm working around lead based paint it could form part of my lead dust management.
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Festool's integration of dust extraction is a great strength. If we advance from presumption to demand we could have something like unto the 3-in-one hoses for the compressed air sanders, as festooldude and SRSemenza touched on, carrying both suction and power (although not necessarily in all the tools). (Seth, I didn't get anything other than what appear to be your comments when I ran a Google search on "NAINA Plug-It hose". Please tell me more or provide a URL.)
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2011, 05:02 AM »

Plug-It hose.
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2011, 07:05 AM »

i know about the plug it hose.. but what i mean is, a hose, with only one connection, also providing the power.. so you only have the suction hose..
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2011, 06:05 AM »

i know about the plug it hose.. but what i mean is, a hose, with only one connection, also providing the power.. so you only have the suction hose..

I know what you mean and thats what I would like also!   The Plug it Hose Alex linked is basically just the same as taping a plug it lead to a hose you have to two ends with two flappy bits  which you then have to unplug both.    Just pulling a hose off a tool and sticking hose only onto a tool with built in power supply would be a lot quicker and tidier  AND less hassle as I have a hose with my Plug it lead tapped to it and some times to lead ends up getting twisted round and it sometimes cooks the end of the rail or something.   Just having a hose would be Brilliant.


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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2011, 07:01 AM »

  Grin Grin Grin Lets talk to shane about it!!!
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2011, 09:04 AM »

Seth   I also have a 1/2 Hawg, but be aware the clutch works only in the lower speed mode. I have yet found anything this thing cant drill thru in all the time I have owned it..
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2011, 11:25 AM »

i know about the plug it hose.. but what i mean is, a hose, with only one connection, also providing the power.. so you only have the suction hose..

Yup. I have an Electrolux vacuum that has this type of hose (power intecrated into the hose). It needs work though , as the hose  is stiff and heavy.

Do the Protool drills (corded) accept the special chucks in addition to the Centrotec?  There are a variety  of suction adapters available for drills. If one of them fits the Protool drill then that would pretty much do what the OP wants.

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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2011, 12:40 PM »

Do the Protool drills (corded) accept the special chucks in addition to the Centrotec? 

They don't.
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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2012, 04:57 PM »

I concur--A corded drill could operate at higher RPM with more torque. I use a Kreg pocket-hole jig, and Kreg recommends 2500 rpm to help the big bit spin the chips out of the rather long guide bushing. The jig has a dust chute, so I hook up the CT26. My (corded) 3/8" Milwaukee spins at 2500 rpm, and triggers the vac. Effortless, and very different than using a battery drill.
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2012, 09:01 PM »

To further clarify my comment about battery independence: I am not wishing for a drill with both a battery and a cord, but if a brilliant Festool engineer designed one,

A lot of professional cameras (Canon 1D series for example), and even some of the consumer-grade ones, come with cords for plugging them in, which simply attach to the camera the way a battery would.

Maybe something similar could be done for the drills?
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2012, 11:37 PM »

To further clarify my comment about battery independence: I am not wishing for a drill with both a battery and a cord, but if a brilliant Festool engineer designed one,

A lot of professional cameras (Canon 1D series for example), and even some of the consumer-grade ones, come with cords for plugging them in, which simply attach to the camera the way a battery would.

Maybe something similar could be done for the drills?

I like the idea of and AC power for the current models as it would help in a few situations.  But a ground up 120V or 240V....could do things that no battery drill can.  Festool engineering applied to AC....Hmmmmm

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« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2012, 08:11 PM »

with a corded drill you could also have some kind of Dust collection, for a cleaner drilling operation.
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« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2012, 06:12 AM »

with a corded drill you could also have some kind of Dust collection, for a cleaner drilling operation.

Ironic that you say this - I use a cordless Dyson up close if I'm drilling and need to collect the debris. Not perfect though. Plust the Dyson is only good for about 20 min of bursts.

I suppose the good thing is that you get to run the vacuum nozzle over the hole. Drilling walls and overhead is a two person job (and that doesn't happen because the other person would need to be my wife!)
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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2012, 08:01 AM »

I quite like the idea of an integrated plug-it hose with the power connector integrated into the hose connector, but it will need some neat engineering to come up with one that doesn't get contact problems once it get dusty and it will effectively stop the cutting of the hoses to shorter lenghts and would generate an interesting monopoly for Festool on the hose tech since they would most likely patent the connector+hose combination.

It would also complicate the CT vac bottom half since it's currently entirely passive (electronics wise) whereas a properly implemented plug-it hose would need to get the power routed via the hose connector and possible Planex dust-port adapters to the hose connector itself on the vac end too.

Also the wireless vac activation would be great even as an add-on for current wireless carvex's if something like that could be implemented into the batteries and maybe a powerplug format receiver & load simulation circuit onto the vac power outlet to trigger the current vacs would provide reasonable backward compatibility.
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« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2012, 08:35 PM »

with a corded drill you could also have some kind of Dust collection, for a cleaner drilling operation.

Not something I have tried but......    various companies (such as Bosch) make DC shrouds that attach to rotary hammers and hammer drills. It is possible that one of those might fit a regular drill also.


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« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2012, 11:03 PM »

Several years ago Dewalt made a line of 24 v cordless tools that also accepted an AC adaptor. I seem to recall that the line was not produced for very long. Apparently the idea did not seem to catch on enough to keep the products going.
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« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2012, 04:24 AM »

I use a Hilti - I believe it is the only CORDLESS drill with vacuum attachement. There is als a handy gadget which plugs to the end of an ordinary hose  that then holds to the wall with vacuum power and has a small hole for the drill bit, I'll try to find a link.
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with a corded drill you could also have some kind of Dust collection, for a cleaner drilling operation.

Ironic that you say this - I use a cordless Dyson up close if I'm drilling and need to collect the debris. Not perfect though. Plust the Dyson is only good for about 20 min of bursts.

I suppose the good thing is that you get to run the vacuum nozzle over the hole. Drilling walls and overhead is a two person job (and that doesn't happen because the other person would need to be my wife!)
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