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Offline ScotF

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I have been using Festool for several years now and have a pretty good collection. I have been lucky enough to have some tools that are now discontinued (at least in North America) and some that are discontinued worldwide. I still find value in these tools and so I thought it would be interesting to see if there are tools others would like to see brought back with maybe slight improvements.

For me, the MFS is up there and router bits. However, I think my most recent tool purchase would be the one I would like to see updated and back on store shelves. I just acquired a Deltex sander that was a store demo - it was in pretty good condition overall with just a few minor dings and it had the old-style Systainer. After using it for several hours today, wow - what a great sander! Now, I also have the RO90 and like it for many things, but I am in the middle of building 4 dining chairs (Maloof inspired) and there were many sections of these chairs where the RO90 was not fitting, even with the extended plate. But, the DX sander fit the bill and got into all the tight spots with ease. I managed to sand the problem areas in a matter of minutes what would have taken me several hours by hand. So, I wish FT would bring this one back, but with a Plug-it cord, please. I can see why people liked this so much - I thought it was easier to control and more refined than my DTS and I think it is going to be one of my top 3 sanders that I use.

So, what about the rest of you? Any older tools you would like to see brought back?

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Offline aloysius

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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2017, 08:42 PM »
DX93E, RO150E, RS1C:  for the reasons stated above, the "plain, normal, standard" pad mounting on the middle one, & the absence of those frustrating plug-it cords on them all.

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Offline RJNeal

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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2017, 09:59 PM »
Definitely the MFS. I did get luck to pick up the last set of rails the 1000, ( thanks Bob) a little while back. But I would like to see them available so I wouldn’t have tore buy them.
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Offline Alex

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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2017, 12:56 AM »
RAS 115. Incredibly useful tool, I can't believe they quietly retired this.

Offline ScotF

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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2017, 01:04 AM »
RAS 115. Incredibly useful tool, I can't believe they quietly retired this.

Wow - just noticed that on the International site - it is still available in North America. That is a shame if that goes by the wayside - that is a extremely awesome tool - as you state.

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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2017, 01:38 AM »
This isn’t a plea for me but rather a plea offered for others. Luckily, I’ve been fortunate in hearing about the anticipated Festool tool retirements early on and have therefore reacted accordingly and purchased said items before they became extinct.

Some of my personal favorites are:
The DX 93
The MFS in all of its configurations
The router sled 🛷
The various installer sets
The metal cutting blades for the Kapex and the track saws
The Kapex because it is rapidly becoming an endangered specie
The spark trap
Many of the router bits
The original metric based tools marketed in the US as opposed to the current gelded “imperial” versions
The original vacuum hose end connection, the one without the depressions which only traps sawdust and then politely dispenses it on the floor or black rug
The various router trimming attachments for the OF 1010
Some of the 25mm long driver bits

That’s a pretty good start.




Offline Alex

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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2017, 03:56 AM »
Yes, the hose ends, good mention.

Bought up a couple of the old ones, I'm set for the next 10 years.

Who would have thunk that when something fits tightly, and you take some chunks out, it doesn't fit tightly anymore?  [blink]

Offline Holmz

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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2017, 05:27 AM »
Even I have a dx93 and some of the router bits...
Too bad about the RAS, as it was in my vision...
(But I scored a BS105)

Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2017, 06:58 AM »
I did find out a few weeks back that the RAS115 is discontinued. That was a bit shocking for me as it is one of the tools I will want to have for the rest of my working life as a carpenter and would keep after retiring as well.

I did find a place that has a few in stock so I will probably snag one as a back up - though I am not keen on spending more on gear that isn't due for replacement.  But, I would kick myself if the RAS got stolen on site or if I was wearing mine out (eventually) and could not replace it. I am looking at selling of a few surplus items at the end of the year and I might as well put that money into a RAS before they are out of stock.
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Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2017, 07:18 AM »
I used my DX93 extensively during the restoration of a 150 year old house. Over a three year period of all my Festools used this one certainly earned its keep particularly when restoring window frames, doors and architrave.  A dealer demo of the RO90 with delta pad did not cut it when compared to the smooth operation of the DX.
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Offline ear3

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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2017, 07:52 AM »
The old hose end all the way, and the MFS.

I was going to add the edging plate for the 1010/1400, but apparently that is no longer discontinued in the states?

The RAS being discontinued abroad is weird.  Are they bringing out a replacement?

Yes, the hose ends, good mention.

Bought up a couple of the old ones, I'm set for the next 10 years.

Who would have thunk that when something fits tightly, and you take some chunks out, it doesn't fit tightly anymore?  [blink]
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Offline Bob D.

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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2017, 08:32 AM »
What does the RAS115 do that can't be done with the RO125 or RO150.

For occasional use can't I accomplish most if not all of what the ROS115
can do with a RO125. Maybe not as powerful or efficient but for home or
light use won't it work.

The RAS115 looks more like a 4-1/2" angle grinder than a sander, can it
use flap discs and other consumables that have a 7/8" arbor hole and are
made for use with other brand angle grinders?

Paul answered all my questions in his video.

« Last Edit: November 19, 2017, 08:40 AM by Bob D. »
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Offline HarveyWildes

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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2017, 10:05 AM »
MFS - I finally managed to score one previously owned.

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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2017, 11:37 AM »
What does the RAS115 do that can't be done with the RO125 or RO150.

For occasional use can't I accomplish most if not all of what the ROS115
can do with a RO125. Maybe not as powerful or efficient but for home or
light use won't it work.

The RAS115 looks more like a 4-1/2" angle grinder than a sander, can it
use flap discs and other consumables that have a 7/8" arbor hole and are
made for use with other brand angle grinders?

Paul answered all my questions in his video.



@Bob D. Thank you for posting that video.  I thought that I had watched very one of Paul Marcel's videos but I missed this one and will have to visit his youtube channel again.  I have had the RAS for over 9 years.  It was the only tool that I bought that I had a thought in the back of my mind that I might return it during the grace period.  I didn't and have been glad of that decision every since.

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Offline Alex

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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2017, 11:45 AM »
Now with the Rotex sanders there's a bit of overlap with the RAS for sure, but the RAS is just 4 to 5 times faster which might make a difference in a production environment, time is money.

The MFS and router bits are still available in Europe, so for the enterprising American it should not be a big problem to get those, though it might cost a bit more.

Offline Womble

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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2017, 12:24 PM »
The UK 110v Plug-It kits

Offline Roseland

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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2017, 02:07 PM »
+1 for the MFS.

I sincerely hope Festool either bring it back, or have a new improved version on the way.

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Offline petersd

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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2017, 02:19 PM »
MFS system and bring the metric option back to North American market.

Offline ScotF

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« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2017, 04:58 PM »
I agree on metric option for tools. I also like the Bench unit for the planer.

Offline live4ever

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« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2017, 05:05 PM »
Y'know...and this is unrelated to the topic at hand...

But looking back over the last 5-7 years, Paul Marcel sure sold me on a lot of Festools lol.
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« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2017, 05:54 PM »
For those looking for a RAS here in North America, I, along with Seth had the opportunity to be in Lebanon earlier this week and we noticed pallets of RAS 115 still in the wrapping fresh off the boat.  I haven't heard about a discontinuance but if that is a concern then the tools are there to be gobbled (sorry, Thanksgiving week) up.

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Offline Bob D.

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« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2017, 05:58 PM »
I will be in the neighborhood (roughly) in a couple days visiting family.
Festool HQ is not really that close. I'll be in Munster but might swing down
that way on Friday on our way home to NJ.

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« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2017, 06:42 PM »
I will be in the neighborhood (roughly) in a couple days visiting family.
Festool HQ is not really that close. I'll be in Munster but might swing down
that way on Friday on our way home to NJ.

If you can make it and if they can accommodate you (this is a week leading up to a holiday) you will have a blast.

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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2017, 06:56 PM »
@Bob D. - While we'd normally love to have you stop by, the Festool USA office will be closed this Friday for the Thanksgiving weekend. If your dates change or are in the area again at another time, let me know.

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« Reply #24 on: November 19, 2017, 08:57 PM »
For those looking for a RAS here in North America, I, along with Seth had the opportunity to be in Lebanon earlier this week and we noticed pallets of RAS 115 still in the wrapping fresh off the boat.


Good to know Peter...as I’ve been a demon dialer today making sure one of these gems are in my future.   

I have a couple of Milwaukee grinders, one corded, one cordless that are sweet but they don’t have dust/debris management capabilities. 

Offline aloysius

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« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2017, 09:21 PM »
I used my DX93 extensively during the restoration of a 150 year old house. Over a three year period of all my Festools used this one certainly earned its keep particularly when restoring window frames, doors and architrave.  A dealer demo of the RO90 with delta pad did not cut it when compared to the smooth operation of the DX.

I could'nt agree more.  The DX93 is (relatively) powerful, efficient & smooth.  Just like other deltas, that stepped head makes it extremely useful in those diabolical concavities that most other sanders miss.  Allowing a reasonable overhang, together with an aggressive true orbital action makes it far superior to the slow, inefficient micro-rotary oscillating multitool action that currently seems to be in vogue.

It's also just about everything that the RO90 isn't: in delta mode anyway.  Where the DX is light, compact, ergonomically sound, easily handled, smooth running and can access overhangs, the baby Rotex is poorly balanced, rough handling, incapable of accessing all but the most minuscule of overhangs, & so rough that delicate surfaces & mouldings are in constant danger of irreparable damage.  For fine work, sash frames, stair mouldings, architraves & complex skirtings the DX93 is ideal, & the RO90 nigh on useless.
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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2017, 09:29 PM »
To reiterate what @Peter Halle just said, the RAS 115 is currently available in North America.

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« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2017, 10:47 PM »
@Bob D. - While we'd normally love to have you stop by, the Festool USA office will be closed this Friday for the Thanksgiving weekend. If your dates change or are in the area again at another time, let me know.

Thank you Tyler. It's not likely our dates will change but I will keep it in mind. Maybe next time we could drive out a day earlier and stop by on Wednesday before Thanksgiving.
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« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2017, 03:12 AM »
The bench attachment for the HL850 planer! Part No. 485017

Both the bench unit and the planer has been on my "Some day i'm going to buy it list" for a few years.

But the day the bench attacment went out of market I deleted the planer on my list!  [mad]

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« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2017, 03:35 AM »
The bench attachment for the HL850 planer! Part No. 485017

Both the bench unit and the planer has been on my "Some day i'm going to buy it list" for a few years.

But the day the bench attacment went out of market I deleted the planer on my list!  [mad]
I suggest to rethink that: that planer is a great tool in itself (when equipped with the additional fence).

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« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2017, 03:31 PM »
Wow am I glad I have 2 ras 115's as they save the day many times in a year.  Although I have not touched any of the new hose ends I sure hope my supply of old style last me the rest of my career.

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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2017, 05:32 PM »
What??! Are you Guys telling me that a Festool (RAS115) is NAIE but AINA?


...what has the world come to... ;)
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DSC-AG Grinder,  RAS 115
Rotex 150, ETS EC 150/5 RTS400
Drills: T18, BHC18, CXS.
SysLite KAL II, SYS Rock.
Sys- and Sortainers galore.

Line up has been reduced with the introduction of Mafell/Metabo tools. Red Green and Blue do mix well in the shop.

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #32 on: November 20, 2017, 05:40 PM »
I've got the RAS 115 but missed news of the DX-93 being discontinued here.
I have a bunch of installed stair treads to sand and was planning to finally buy that gear driven delta.

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« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2017, 01:29 AM »
I've got the RAS 115 but missed news of the DX-93 being discontinued here.
I have a bunch of installed stair treads to sand and was planning to finally buy that gear driven delta.

I just used mine today on some trim work. It’s probably 3-4 times faster than a Fein, pretty impressive. It’s also not as clumsy to use as a RO 90 with the triangular head. The only thing I dislike is the oval dust port. Really, Festool should bring this item back and update it with a round dust port and a removable cord.

Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2017, 12:50 PM »
DX93 still available in a few stores over here. One of the least expensive Festool sanders.
Festool:  CS 50EB precisio set, Domino DF500, DF XL 700, OFK500 edge router, OF1010 router EHL65 planer, CTL Mini/Midi Vac, CTL 26 vac MFT800+1080 tables
DSC-AG Grinder,  RAS 115
Rotex 150, ETS EC 150/5 RTS400
Drills: T18, BHC18, CXS.
SysLite KAL II, SYS Rock.
Sys- and Sortainers galore.

Line up has been reduced with the introduction of Mafell/Metabo tools. Red Green and Blue do mix well in the shop.

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« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2017, 01:28 PM »
DX93 still available in a few stores over here. One of the least expensive Festool sanders.

Is a 110 volt model available? If so, how much do they cost?

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« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2017, 08:05 PM »
Sweden and all the Scandinavian countries are 220v. Bummer, but so it is.

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« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2017, 08:17 PM »
If you're looking for an alternative to the now-discontinued MFS, stay tuned.  [bite tongue] [popcorn]
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« Reply #38 on: November 22, 2017, 02:54 AM »
DX93 still available in a few stores over here. One of the least expensive Festool sanders.

Is a 110 volt model available? If so, how much do they cost?

I paid ~250 used for mine in 110v. Currently in Virgina beach, Va on loan...
So I may be interested in selling it getting a 230v one...

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« Reply #39 on: November 22, 2017, 05:12 PM »
Heads up...TCO Trade Counter Online/Ebay has MFS 700 listed for $382 + 45 shipping.

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« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2017, 07:01 PM »
is the laminate trimmer attactment for the of1010 officially discontinued. I hope not
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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #41 on: November 23, 2017, 04:26 PM »
is the laminate trimmer attactment for the of1010 officially discontinued. I hope not

I think it is. Almost sure.

Michael K: no 110V DX93's I'm afraid. The largest dealer has only a single DX93 in 220V in stock, last one that I've seen pretty much everywhere around here. 

I did snag the last RAS115 - wasn't planning on spending a single penny/dime/öre on gear until the yearly bonus in Jan/Feb but it was the last RAS 115 they could source up around here. I had another dealer telling me he could get me one - he was calling around all his colleagues to source one up but it turned out he would have gotten it from the same dealer I did. Felt weird carrying the RAS home only to put it on a shelf, complete set in package. But it sure feels good. Now I am not antsy about losing the one I have been beating up the last couple of years - though I do hope it will last!

Festool:  CS 50EB precisio set, Domino DF500, DF XL 700, OFK500 edge router, OF1010 router EHL65 planer, CTL Mini/Midi Vac, CTL 26 vac MFT800+1080 tables
DSC-AG Grinder,  RAS 115
Rotex 150, ETS EC 150/5 RTS400
Drills: T18, BHC18, CXS.
SysLite KAL II, SYS Rock.
Sys- and Sortainers galore.

Line up has been reduced with the introduction of Mafell/Metabo tools. Red Green and Blue do mix well in the shop.

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« Reply #42 on: November 23, 2017, 08:00 PM »
« Last Edit: November 23, 2017, 08:03 PM by Untidy Shop »
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« Reply #43 on: November 23, 2017, 10:25 PM »

Wow...looking at those Aussie prices, it really is sticker shock.  [eek]

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« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2017, 04:28 PM »
I used my DX93 extensively during the restoration of a 150 year old house. Over a three year period of all my Festools used this one certainly earned its keep particularly when restoring window frames, doors and architrave.  A dealer demo of the RO90 with delta pad did not cut it when compared to the smooth operation of the DX.

I could'nt agree more.  The DX93 is (relatively) powerful, efficient & smooth.  Just like other deltas, that stepped head makes it extremely useful in those diabolical concavities that most other sanders miss.  Allowing a reasonable overhang, together with an aggressive true orbital action makes it far superior to the slow, inefficient micro-rotary oscillating multitool action that currently seems to be in vogue.

It's also just about everything that the RO90 isn't: in delta mode anyway.  Where the DX is light, compact, ergonomically sound, easily handled, smooth running and can access overhangs, the baby Rotex is poorly balanced, rough handling, incapable of accessing all but the most minuscule of overhangs, & so rough that delicate surfaces & mouldings are in constant danger of irreparable damage.  For fine work, sash frames, stair mouldings, architraves & complex skirtings the DX93 is ideal, & the RO90 nigh on useless.
   I liked mine so much I bought a 2nd used one earlier this year since they are NLA. All the reasons you mentioned.....esp. tight space sanding.... DX excels at this...   [thumbs up]
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« Reply #45 on: November 24, 2017, 11:37 PM »

Wow...looking at those Aussie prices, it really is sticker shock.  [eek]

Welcome to Australia. 🤗

Offline Untidy Shop

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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #46 on: November 25, 2017, 05:40 AM »

Wow...looking at those Aussie prices, it really is sticker shock.  [eek]

@Cheese  - Did you do the currency conversion too?

Unfortunately Festool Aust, unlike Festool USA, is  actually a seperate company from Festool, and so in addition to setting its own margins, can fix dealer prices (given an exception few other companies in Australia enjoy), and as I say often here provides a weaker version of 'Service All Nothing', er I mean 'Inclusive'  [big grin].
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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #47 on: November 25, 2017, 10:03 AM »

Wow...looking at those Aussie prices, it really is sticker shock.  [eek]

@Cheese  - Did you do the currency conversion too?

Unfortunately Festool Aust, unlike Festool USA, is  actually a seperate company from Festool, and so in addition to setting its own margins, can fix dealer prices (given an exception few other companies in Australia enjoy), and as I say often here provides a weaker version of 'Service All Nothing', er I mean 'Inclusive'  [big grin].

At least there is sense to this. 
Now if only if one could explain the VHS tapes at 9,600 ¥
and the 3,500 króna compact discs.  [tongue]








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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #48 on: November 25, 2017, 10:32 AM »

@Cheese  - Did you do the currency conversion too?

Unfortunately Festool Aust, unlike Festool USA, is  actually a seperate company from Festool, and so in addition to setting its own margins, can fix dealer prices (given an exception few other companies in Australia enjoy), and as I say often here provides a weaker version of 'Service All Nothing', er I mean 'Inclusive'  [big grin].

Ya Untidy, I did the conversion on the 486534 Copier. It costs $159 Aus = $121 US and I paid $72 from Toolnut with free shipping (that's a distance of 1230 miles) a year ago.  [jawdrop]

When it comes to owning Festool gear in Australia, as they say in car & bike racing, "Ya gotta wanna".

At those prices it's easier to justify Mafell gear.

Offline DB10

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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #49 on: November 25, 2017, 06:24 PM »

@Cheese  - Did you do the currency conversion too?

Unfortunately Festool Aust, unlike Festool USA, is  actually a seperate company from Festool, and so in addition to setting its own margins, can fix dealer prices (given an exception few other companies in Australia enjoy), and as I say often here provides a weaker version of 'Service All Nothing', er I mean 'Inclusive'  [big grin].

Ya Untidy, I did the conversion on the 486534 Copier. It costs $159 Aus = $121 US and I paid $72 from Toolnut with free shipping (that's a distance of 1230 miles) a year ago.  [jawdrop]

When it comes to owning Festool gear in Australia, as they say in car & bike racing, "Ya gotta wanna".

At those prices it's easier to justify Mafell gear.
You would think but unfortunately Mafell do not have a distributor in Australia. If they did one could only imagine what the prices would look like.

Offline Coen

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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #50 on: November 28, 2017, 04:23 PM »
The anti-splinter strips on the rails but with the glue that keeps them actually.... like glued to the rail?

Or did I miss a re-release there?

Offline SWC

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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #51 on: November 28, 2017, 09:02 PM »
All lengths and lighted configurations of Festool/Stabila levels.  Stop the wild secondary market prices   :o

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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #52 on: December 02, 2017, 11:34 AM »
All versions of drill bits, including Zobo and Brad points. I have the Installer Set, but would love ability to replace individual bits.

Offline Coen

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Re: Discontinued Festools that you wish Festool would bring back?
« Reply #53 on: December 03, 2017, 06:26 PM »
Festool #201311

Why oh why is that a limited edition...  [huh]